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Michael O'Leary - seatbelts useless

  • 09-11-2012 12:29PM
    #1
    davet82
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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4634019/Ryanair-boss-says-you-dont-need-seatbelts-on-planes.html
    CONTROVERSIAL Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary has provoked uproar by claiming seatbelts on aircraft are pointless and will not save passengers in a crash.

    I don't like him but he's probably right on this one, i wonder is there any evidence to suggest he is right?

    as for putting your head between your legs before impact of a 200 mile an hour aerplane hitting the ground, seems more likely so that you can kiss your arse good-bye than saftey measures me thinks :pac:


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  • #2
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If you're ever in a bit of heavy turbulence you'll be grateful you have them.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #3
    Wacker The Attacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Safest option might be not to crash the plane


  • #4
    gobnaitolunacy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Just MO'L acting like a knob again, free publicity as per usual.

    Why bother fitting black boxes, radar and navigational equipment and let a bus driver fly the plane?


  • #5
    Onesimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    Has O Leary studied this and proved by measuring other crashes that we do NOT need seatbelts?


  • #6
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A King amongst men is our Michael


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  • #7
    OSiriS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭OSiriS


    It seems Michael O'Leary, and others do not understand their function, and it is rather disturbing that the head of a major airline would be unfamiliar with aircraft safety. Nothing is going to save your life in a fatal crash, the safety belt and crash position are intended to protect you in cases of survivable incidents. It's like claiming air bags are useless because they will not save your life in a 120kph crash, but they will in slower speed crashes.


  • #8
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    A King amongst men is our Michael

    A veritable King of Gobsh1te


  • #9
    jiltloop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    I'm sure they are pretty essential in heavy turbulence. I'd say over the years seatbelts in actual crash situation have saved quite a miniscule number of lives but surely that is enough to warrant the cost of them.


  • #10
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Michael O'Leary gets media coverage by saying something controversial again.


  • #11
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    gozunda wrote: »
    A veritable King of Gobsh1te
    why do you think that?


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  • #12
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Michael O'Leary gets media coverage by saying something controversial again.

    true but its good craic :)


  • #13
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    He has brought in charging for everything else perhaps he is planning for charging for these to?

    Thats a boy Michael! and who ever said it was others that ripped us off?

    He really is the epitome of the ol traditional Irish middleman who would skin his mother alive to sell her hide and with all the decency of a rat in a barrel.


  • #14
    who the fug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    A King amongst men is our Michael

    He certainly knows how to push the internet buttons, think marketing colleges will be studying his marketing plan for years


    can anyone put an estimate on the free publicity he gets for Ryan Air every year


  • #15
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    OSiriS wrote: »
    It seems Michael O'Leary, and others do not understand their function, and it is rather disturbing that the head of a major airline would be unfamiliar with aircraft safety. Nothing is going to save your life in a fatal crash, the safety belt and crash position are intended to protect you in cases of survivable incidents. It's like claiming air bags are useless because they will not save your life in a 120kph crash, but they will in slower speed crashes.
    On the contrary, I think Michael O'Leary knows exactly how useful seatbelts are, knows a hell of a lot more about airplanes than you'd think and knows exactly what he's doing by saying something like this.


  • #16
    Wacker The Attacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    There was a case a while back of a crash landing where a sizable number of the passengers were hurt and even killed, not from impact, but from their heads hitting the compartments above them. The straps probably would have prevented this.


  • #17
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Michael, will you please just belt up.


  • #18
    Theta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    Nobody watched "The Plane Crash" on channel 4 then no?


  • #19
    reginald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭reginald


    jiltloop wrote: »
    I'm sure they are pretty essential in heavy turbulence. I'd say over the years seatbelts in actual crash situation have saved quite a miniscule number of lives but surely that is enough to warrant the cost of them.

    Exactly, i think the point O Leary is making is that they are pretty useless in the majority of airline incidents. Can't understand all the hatred against him, he speaks his mind and runs one of the most succesfull airlines in the world. All the moaners still use Ryanair and expect 1st class service for a budget ticket:rolleyes:. I have used them at least 50 times over the last number of years and have found the service second to none to be fair.


  • #20
    Balmed Out
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    Remember that Belfast to Cork fligh that crashed a few years ago, didnt it end up upside down? Id be glad of the seatbelt.


  • #21
    Sunnyisland
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    I would have thought the seatbelts are for the purpose of stopping the bodies being thrown around the plane,You might survive the plane crash and get hit from a flying body.


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  • #22
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I'd view airplanes as buses with wings to a degree too but it's becoming more and more common when travelling long distance on a bus that you have to wear a seat belt. I've just come back from Oz and over there when I got the bus from Brisbane to Melbourne I had to wear a seat belt the whole way.


  • #23
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    davet82 wrote: »
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4634019/Ryanair-boss-says-you-dont-need-seatbelts-on-planes.html



    I don't like him but he's probably right on this one, i wonder is there any evidence to suggest he is right?

    No! No one has ever performed any kind of test to see if seat belts help save live (or limbs) in case of crashes (or other emergencies)

    Those fly by night billion doolar industry types!


  • #24
    ballsymchugh
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    OSiriS wrote: »
    It seems Michael O'Leary, and others do not understand their function, and it is rather disturbing that the head of a major airline would be unfamiliar with aircraft safety. Nothing is going to save your life in a fatal crash, the safety belt and crash position are intended to protect you in cases of survivable incidents. It's like claiming air bags are useless because they will not save your life in a 120kph crash, but they will in slower speed crashes.

    actually, crash position won't save you. it will preserve your face in a way that will make identification by dental records easier though :eek:


  • #25
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    actually, crash position won't save you. it will preserve your face in a way that will make identification by dental records easier though :eek:

    nice :pac:


  • #26
    Agricola
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    Hmmm, in the event of an accident would I rather be tied to the seat and have a small hope of survival, or be turned into a human missile......


  • #27
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Dodge wrote: »
    No! No one has ever performed any kind of test to see if seat belts help save live (or limbs) in case of crashes (or other emergencies)

    Those fly by night billion doolar industry types!

    feel free to up a link, i'm not saying you're wrong either :)


  • #28
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVR_9vJZ208



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVjQZJM_tpQ


  • #29
    kingtiger
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    article from 1998

    "According to FAA statistics almost 60 people are injured each year during turbulence -- mostly when passengers aren't wearing seat belts"

    http://edition.cnn.com/TRAVEL/NEWS/9803/31/seat.belts/index.html

    yeah Mickey not necessary at all :rolleyes:


  • #30
    BrensBenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    Michael O'Leary is a genius. He only has to open his mouth and spout twaddle to get international media coverage. I regularly spout twaddle and.......nothing! Not even the Fingal Indo.

    Why do WE fall for it?


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  • #31
    Run_to_da_hills
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    kingtiger wrote: »
    article from 1998

    "According to FAA statistics almost 60 people are injured each year during turbulence -- mostly when passengers aren't wearing seat belts"

    http://edition.cnn.com/TRAVEL/NEWS/9803/31/seat.belts/index.html

    yeah Mickey not necessary at all :rolleyes:
    When you consider the hundreds of millions that are flying each year 60 is a very low figure.


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