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Weed Legalised in Two States!!!!!!!!

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  • #32
    BetterCallSaul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭BetterCallSaul


    Quirk_Douglas wrote: »
    The repercussions to society will be irreversible. It's not about not making them smoke or stopping people having their 'fun', it's about trying to keep some morals and sense of decency in a society which is rapidly falling apart. Some are too pig-headed to see it.

    It's just another way of keeping the general population placid and unquestioning. Keep them doped up, they'll stumble around laughing away to themselves while the noose is tightening around the collective neck.

    Yeah, the last time I checked, the Netherlands was falling apart.


  • #33
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    colorado??

    towelie will be happy.

    http://images.buddytv.com/articles/towelie-intervention-sp.jpg


  • #34
    jester77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    WileyCoyote wrote: »
    Cant see how legalizing another dangerous drug can be viewed as a victory for anything except spudidity!

    Another? What other dangerous drugs have they legalised, genuine question?


  • #35
    Sky King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    What are the two states it's now legal in?

    Hashish and herbal I presume?


  • #36
    thomasj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭thomasj


    brosy wrote: »
    Congratulations to Americans on voting to legalise cannabis in Washington and Colorado.

    A victory for all.


    And well done to Obama as well

    I am surprised some of them managed to put the tick in the box let alone the correct box.


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  • #37
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    jester77 wrote: »
    Another? What other dangerous drugs have they legalised, genuine question?

    Tobacco and alcohol spring to mind


  • #38
    Tzar Chasm
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    alcohol and tobacco


  • #39
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    ArtyC wrote: »
    The right to have one is though. Noone thinks divorce is a victory ffs

    My ex-wife sure thought divorce was a victory. She got everything in the divorce settlement /second rate comedian


  • #40
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Quirk_Douglas wrote: »
    Divorce is never a victory for anybody.

    I strongly disagree.


  • #41
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    thomasj wrote: »
    I am surprised some of them managed to put the tick in the box let alone the correct box.

    I'm surprised how someone who has a few pints of beer of a weekend is able to put the tick in the box let alone the correct box.......

    See how that works?


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  • #42
    Reality_Check1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Reality_Check1


    Quirk_Douglas wrote: »
    For someone with the name of Reality Check, you truly have your head in the clouds.

    Before people fall into the trap of arguing with this person (like I almost did) please be aware that their opinions are based purely on prodigious and have literally no scientific back up to support their claims. Despite you putting very objective and supportive arguments in front of them they will refuse to take a neutral stance on the issue.

    I enjoy a good debate not the kind where people put their fingers in their ears and act like a child
    jester77 wrote: »
    Another? What other dangerous drugs have they legalised, genuine question?

    I say this as a genuine answer but nearly every drug you can get including "over the counter" drugs are dangerous. but when taken appropriately they cause no lasting harm


  • #43
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    Weed hasn't been legalised in two states. As you have noticed, Barack Obama was re-elected which means he will continue to allow more drug busts than GWB ever did, no matter what state law says.


  • #44
    endofrainbow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    I wonder will Ming be moving to Washington or Colorado? :p


  • #45
    RainMaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 459 ✭✭RainMaker


    Quirk_Douglas wrote: »
    it's about trying to keep some morals and sense of decency in a society which is rapidly falling apart. Some are too pig-headed to see it.

    Funny how the people responsible for teaching morals and a "sense of decency" have done more to harm societies than a few stoners!

    I would say Brian Cowen, Bertie Ahern, Mary Harney, Brian Lenihan, Willy O'Dea, etc, etc have done a lot more to wreck this country, decrease the standard of living and at the time encourage the consumerist society that got us where we are today... Ming just wants to grow a plant!

    So where do you expect this moral leadership to come from, and why do you think that wouldn't happen just because some plant was legal or not?


  • #46
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Quirk_Douglas wrote: »
    it's about trying to keep some morals and sense of decency in a society

    You have a questionable understanding of what is moral or not. What's immoral is throwing peaceful people into a cell because they choose to smoke weed.
    Keep them doped up, they'll stumble around laughing away to themselves while the noose is tightening around the collective neck.

    Conspiracy theory forum here for that shite.


  • #47
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    I smell Bantam.


  • #48
    jester77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Reality_Check1 wrote: »
    I say this as a genuine answer but nearly every drug you can get including "over the counter" drugs are dangerous. but when taken appropriately they cause no lasting harm

    Then you could say the same about anything. Consuming too much water can kill you.


  • #49
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    ArtyC wrote: »
    The right to have one is though. Noone thinks divorce is a victory ffs

    Unless you marry someone who's loaded without signing a prenuptial agreement!


  • #50
    Drakares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    Quirk_Douglas wrote: »
    The repercussions to society will be irreversible. It's not about not making them smoke or stopping people having their 'fun', it's about trying to keep some morals and sense of decency in a society which is rapidly falling apart. Some are too pig-headed to see it.

    It's just another way of keeping the general population placid and unquestioning. Keep them doped up, they'll stumble around laughing away to themselves while the noose is tightening around the collective neck.

    :pac:


  • #51
    Reality_Check1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Reality_Check1


    jester77 wrote: »
    Then you could say the same about anything. Consuming too much water can kill you.

    now consider this;

    Its relatively easy to Overdose on water and get hyponatrunia when you compare the amounts required to OD on Paracetamol for example. And to really bolster my point it is nearly impossible to OD on weed to the point where it would harm you. The quantity required is just too big and its metabolised by the body too fast


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  • #52
    [Deleted User]
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    smash wrote: »
    Unless you marry someone who's loaded without signing a prenuptial agreement!

    Pre-nups are not recognised in Irish law though.


  • #53
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    mikom wrote: »
    I smell Bantam.

    In fairness, Quirk seems to have a better level of English than Bantam ever had.


  • #54
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I lived in Colorado for years, including the years when anyone could get a medical card if they paid $100.

    First, weed is safer than alcohol, many prescription drugs and is certainly safer than being overweight. If you want to preach about the dangers of drugs you'd better be against alcohol, many prescription drugs and fatties.

    Second, there was no increase in crime as the weed industry exploded in Colorado. It just didn't happen. As far as I know, it hasn't happened in any of the places that have legalized it. If you want to talk about the associated crime/gateway drugs that go along with increased marijuana consumption; you'll need to have some compelling evidence that a link even exists. If you want to argue some more vague concept of 'It is immoral' you're going to have to have some awfully convincing argument that would need to include defining what is and isn't immoral. It'll be hard to convince people that something they enjoy that harms nobody else, is immoral. It will also be very hard to give a definition of immoral that would make weed immoral while not making a whole lot of other, generally acceptable, things immoral too. But I'd love to hear it.

    At the end of the day, the people who are going to have a weed brownie are going to be exactly like people who have a few beers after work. Most of them are *already* recreational drug users and they'll be trading a MORE dangerous drug for weed...or they'll already be weed users and now they've just got less legal concerns (I say less because there are still legal issues at the federal level)


  • #55
    ArseLtd
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    Thank god, hopefully we're seeing an end to forced armed entry of peoples homes, take that nixon!


  • #56
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,192 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    WileyCoyote wrote: »
    Cant see how legalizing another dangerous drug can be viewed as a victory for anything except spudidity!

    Ah, but you're forgetting the victory for natural selection! Whilst the predispositioned failures of society find another way to kill brain cells (and I'm referring to habitual addictive wasters here, not recreational users who lead productive lives), perhaps the increased paranoia, schizophrenia and general uselessness will kill off a few (through correlated activities) and make it harder for others to procreate. :pac:

    Whilst I merely dabbled in my teens and early 20's, as well as many others, I am happy to see freedom of choice available. It's an age old debate, but it's no worse than ciggarettes and alcohol, and as for a "gateway" drug, I suspect that those who end up being addicted to hardcore drugs would have found their way there all by themselves, with or without marijuana!

    Take it, have fun, Tax it, make money. Win, win.


  • #57
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    ArseLtd wrote: »
    Thank god, hopefully we're seeing an end to forced armed entry of peoples homes, take that nixon!

    Nixon was one of the good guys........


  • #58
    General Relativity
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    Federal Law supercedes state law, so I'd imagine this will be veto'd.


  • #59
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,192 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Wow, went to read up on this as I was sceptical, but I read this article and it only gets better...Massachusetts has voted on euthanasia, which is so far too close to call, Maryland and Washington hop on the gay marriage rainbow and Maryland relaxes laws on illegal immegrant children, giving them rights to education...and there's a two time elected black president....I don't know what fu*ked up, parallel universe I woke up in this morning, but I like it!


  • #60
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    General Relativity wrote: »
    Federal Law supercedes state law, so I'd imagine this will be veto'd.

    I think for weed to be federally legalised it might take non-violent mass disobedience to highlight the absurdity/immorality of it being illegal.


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  • #61
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    General Relativity wrote: »
    Federal Law supercedes state law, so I'd imagine this will be veto'd.

    The medical use hasn't been vetoed so I don't think it is possible to veto this. They might try to enforce it sporadically like they do with the medical dispensaries but that's just a token measure. It'll be much harder to do now too as it will be far more widespread.


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