Dacia Duster

paddy25c · 06-11-2012 06:24PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Off the top of my head, turbos, fuel pumps, injectors,
Qashqais post 2010 seem to have issues with dpf's

ah! that must be there are so few qashqais on the road .... wait a moment

MidlandsM · 06-11-2012 06:26PM

paddy25c wrote: »

ah! that must be there are so few qashqais on the road .... wait a moment

yep, you are totally correct Paddy, with a high mortality rate!

but it seems you can't be told or advised.......have you ordered one?

lemas · 06-11-2012 06:29PM

Realistically only time will tell if this "Shockingly affordable" price is actually the bargain it purports to be. However even if it gave a bit of bother (I'm not aware of a brand that is completely issue free), with the standard 3-year warranty offered for the price, you are getting a lot of car with somewhat debugged hardware/technology having gone through several generations in other guises.

delthedriver · 06-11-2012 06:46PM

Bobo78 wrote: »

Ok thats true, but what other diesel cars are out there that don't give this kind of trouble and how much they cost when new??

At least this Dacia is very good value for money especially in these days.

Yes Dacia are great value, in their price band with a 3 year standard warranty. They provide a great alternative to the second hand crap cars for sale in Ireland with clocked mileage and lack of service history. Refer recent consumer programme on RTE .To buy one of these secondhand types one should be offered black glasses and industrial ear muffs by the shiny suited garage man. I am happy to stick with the rose tinted glasses

MidlandsM · 06-11-2012 07:33PM

delthedriver wrote: »

They provide a great alternative to the second hand crap cars for sale in Ireland with clocked mileage and lack of service history.

but only uninformed ediots buy clocked scrap ..... and you're not one of those are you?

Leonard Hofstadter · 06-11-2012 07:46PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

but only uninformed ediots buy clocked scrap ..... and you're not one of those are you?

+1, besides, that's what the UK is for, plenty of cars with proper engines and spec with the all-important full service history.

MidlandsM · 06-11-2012 08:00PM

Can I just say, I hope they are a BLINDING little SUV, and reliable for all who ordered one, and are considering them.....because if they are, I'll get a few out of the uk, and flog them here for a killing! lol

Leonard Hofstadter · 06-11-2012 08:34PM

It says a lot about the priorities of the average Irish motorist that they've (allegedly) sold 400 Dusters here while in the UK they've "only" sold 1,000 of them. On a pro-rata basis they should have about sold over 10,000 of them in the UK at this stage, although the UK figure is obviously distorted by the fact that the registration plate change isn't until March and the Irish one is obviously in January.

I swear the registration plate system has got to be the worst invention ever, if there was no year identifier, people might actually become far less obsessed with the age of their cars and therefore actually buy nice cars with nice engines and decent spec, the same as people in the rest of the developed world do.

Pottler · 06-11-2012 09:52PM

I was "abroad" last week and there were loads of new Dusters knocking about. They look quite well in white.

colm_mcm · 06-11-2012 09:54PM

Pottler wrote: »

I was "abroad" last week and there were loads of new Dusters knocking about. They look quite well in white.

Until they get all dusty, then you throw them out and buy a new one.

lemas · 06-11-2012 10:05PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Until they get all dusty, then you throw them out and buy a new one.

You know that's kind of exactly how some might see it over three years, consumable.

Pottler · 06-11-2012 10:09PM

lemas wrote: »

You know that's kind of exactly how some might see it over three years, consumable.

They looked no more disposable than any other small suv to me, pretty solid all round, actually, the rest just comes down to badge foolery/snobbery.

Bobo78 · 06-11-2012 10:21PM

+1

lemas · 06-11-2012 10:28PM

Pottler wrote: »

They looked no more disposable than any other small suv to me, pretty solid all round, actually, the rest just comes down to badge foolery/snobbery.

Totally agree with you, I'm just saying at the price and finance deal they're offering, €149 / month you can hand it back or trade in and get a new one in 2016; where's the free beer?

Either way there's often a micro-margin sometimes between very naff or very cool, the cool wall if you will; these things are definitely on the cool wall. You talk of badge foolery they're the badge of austerity the Troika should supplement

Cosmo K · 06-11-2012 10:29PM

The Dacia Duster.....it's the thinking man's Octavia........

MidlandsM · 06-11-2012 10:38PM

lemas wrote: »

Totally agree with you, I'm just saying at the price and finance deal they're offering, €149 / month you can hand it back or trade in and get a new one in 2016; where's the free beer?

its not that simple

the lots more outlay upfront and balooning...

lemas · 06-11-2012 10:52PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

its not that simple the lots more outlay upfront and balooning...

Ah come on, live a little! You can have a 4WD for <20k in band B tax (225) and 50MPG, you'll save a few quid on the juice. Unless your looking for a new mini?

Leonard Hofstadter · 06-11-2012 11:48PM

Jaysus lads, a lot of people being VERY enthusiastic about what is a thoroughly unsophisticated and unremarkable vehicle. It's the new poverty spec Toyota if you will. I wonder why there is so much promotion of the anti-car person's ideal car on a site which is supposed to be about liking cars?

dr.fuzzenstein · 07-11-2012 12:40AM

captainspeed wrote: »

Jaysus lads, a lot of people being VERY enthusiastic about what is a thoroughly unsophisticated and unremarkable vehicle. It's the new poverty spec Toyota if you will. I wonder why there is so much promotion of the anti-car person's ideal car on a site which is supposed to be about liking cars?

It doesn't always have to be gold-plated Lamborghinis with jet engines.:D

cabb8ge · 07-11-2012 12:44AM

New car on driveway for low price, fantastic idea ??, after one year owner see cheap and nasty car on drive one year old, not good idea than. I see mention of badge snobb in posts here, Duster only appeal to people wanting new car, that another type of snobb.

HJL · 07-11-2012 12:47AM

Cosmo K wrote: »

The Dacia Duster.....it's the thinking man's Octavia........

Or the guy who drives an Octavia, and one day decides to go out and buy something mad . . . but not quite as mad as a vRS.

repsol · 07-11-2012 12:55AM

cabb8ge wrote: »

New car on driveway for low price, fantastic idea ??, after one year owner see cheap and nasty car on drive one year old, not good idea than. I see mention of badge snobb in posts here, Duster only appeal to people wanting new car, that another type of snobb.

Wanting a quality brand of car does not make you a snob! I cannot for the life of me see why anyone would want to buy a Dacia.Saying its got Renault bits does nothing to help its case either.I had the misfortune recently to have to drive a brand new MG in the UK.It was a hire car and the Ford I had ordered was unavailable.It was like driving a 25 year old Opel Ascona! S**t doesn't even come close.The fact that it had 5 miles on the speedo when I collected it was little consolation as was "the new reg".All these cheap cars are crap. If your budget will not stretch to a decent brand new car, buy a 12 month old one.Any saving will be eliminated by shocking residual value.

lemas · 07-11-2012 11:08AM

repsol wrote: »

Wanting a quality brand of car does not make you a snob! I cannot for the life of me see why anyone would want to buy a Dacia.Saying its got Renault bits does nothing to help its case either.I had the misfortune recently to have to drive a brand new MG in the UK.It was a hire car and the Ford I had ordered was unavailable.It was like driving a 25 year old Opel Ascona! S**t doesn't even come close.The fact that it had 5 miles on the speedo when I collected it was little consolation as was "the new reg".All these cheap cars are crap. If your budget will not stretch to a decent brand new car, buy a 12 month old one.Any saving will be eliminated by shocking residual value.

Can't agree with you. The difference between a similarly specked competitor for the 4WD version could easily mean spending 50% more (~10K). Is the intrinsic value of the perceived quality brand really worth that? I think the big brands have been taking the piss for years in this country. At that price is depreciation/residual value somewhat negated if the car gets the family from A to B relatively cheaply. The "bits" in this car run in other brands like Nissan. The alliance between the two manufacturers Renault and Nissan that is, espouses engine/gearbox reliability as one of their core competencies. As regards the poor MG, calling it an Ascona is very poor form, the Rothmans Ascona was a class rally car

Anyway, I don't see the point in your comparison given your sample size of one MG; haven't a number of people on this thread driven the Duster and said it was surprisingly good? There are a fair number of reviews out there that on average give it a 3 out of 5 star rating. That's not bad, it's statistically above average and for the money which is rock bottom does that not imply value?

lemas · 07-11-2012 11:25AM

OSI wrote: »

Bahahahahaha! Live a little? By buying the cheapest tat I can find? I wonder do all these people buying Dusters also live in Portacabins? I mean, why buy proper house with decent materials and the conveniences of a modern home, when you could have a brand new portacabin for half the price!? Sure what's the difference, it's still somewhere to live right?

No thanks. I don't pick the cheapest house my bed will fit into. I don't pick the first girl in the bar that looks capable of bearing children. I don't buy the cheapest TV that lets me watch RTE, and I certainly don't buy the cheapest car that will fit mine, and my family's posteriors into.

That's a strong personal view you have and indeed an interesting metaphor. A lot of folks in France and Germany would disagree and actually bought that 'cheapest tat'. Even in 2012 Ireland the value of building materials have a minimal influence on the price of houses, location is still the big factor, that's like a badge isn't it?

delthedriver · 07-11-2012 12:37PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

Can I just say, I hope they are a BLINDING little SUV, and reliable for all who ordered one, and are considering them.....because if they are, I'll get a few out of the uk, and flog them here for a killing! lol

Nice thinking ! People will only pay what they are worth. Where is the killing to be made?
Why would anyone buy a secondhand imported Duster for almost the same price as a new one?Don't expect their residuals to collapse in year 1, supplies will be slow enough coming here, French an Spanish market demand is even larger than ROI
Are we missing something.?
I have been happy to wait until January for the arrival of 2 Dusters

MidlandsM · 07-11-2012 01:44PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Nice thinking ! People will only pay what they are worth. Where is the killing to be made?
Why would anyone buy a secondhand imported Duster for almost the same price as a new one?Don't expect their residuals to collapse in year 1, supplies will be slow enough coming here, French an Spanish market demand is even larger than ROI
Are we missing something.?
I have been happy to wait until January for the arrival of 2 Dusters

well, if they are so scarce, and the need is there, I'll fill it........

delthedriver · 07-11-2012 01:55PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

well, if they are so scarce, and the need is there, I'll fill it........

Good on you friend.
I admire your enterprising thinking.
God knows we need more enterprise in this country of ours.
Best wishes,

Padraig Mor · 07-11-2012 02:12PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

well, if they are so scarce, and the need is there, I'll fill it........

They're cheaper in Ireland than the UK......

MidlandsM · 07-11-2012 04:19PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

They're cheaper in Ireland than the UK......

in a year or 2, they'll be worth fcuk all in the uk, thats when i'd bay, not new.....

anyways, I'm tottling around in a fluence today with this world famous trouble free well proven 1.5 dci engine..........

.....what a guttless gruff unit ............. Ughhhhhhhhh ........

dr.fuzzenstein · 07-11-2012 04:22PM

OSI wrote: »

Bahahahahaha! Live a little? By buying the cheapest tat I can find? I wonder do all these people buying Dusters also live in Portacabins? I mean, why buy proper house with decent materials and the conveniences of a modern home, when you could have a brand new portacabin for half the price!? Sure what's the difference, it's still somewhere to live right?

No thanks. I don't pick the cheapest house my bed will fit into. I don't pick the first girl in the bar that looks capable of bearing children. I don't buy the cheapest TV that lets me watch RTE, and I certainly don't buy the cheapest car that will fit mine, and my family's posteriors into.

What you hear a lot in this country is "I don't "do" Lidl, Aldi, Ryanair, Dacia, etc... because it's cheap"
It's simply idiotic snobbery to dismiss a product on price alone.
To me the spiritual predecessor of the Dacia is the Lada Niva, it was the cheapest, nastiest Russian offroader money could buy, but the Germans bought it in their droves.
Same goes for the Duster, Germans will like it because if it's cheap and any good, they will buy it.
You say people who buy something because it's cheap are idiots, I say people who won't buy something because it's cheap and for no other reason are retarded snobs.
It's simply a hangover form the Celtic Tiger era and will soon die out as people realise that E60k wages and buying a brand new 520d every three years are as extinct as the FF bribery tent at the Galway races.

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