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Where did the towers go - directed free energy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Dew Drops


    dustspire.gif

    Following Dr Judy Wood's appearance at the Breakthrough Energy Movement (BEM) Conference during the weekend of 9 – 11 November (yes, how appropriate), she will be at a number of presentations around the UK – in a packed schedule. Dr Wood will be giving an updated/augmented presentation following on from the ones she gave in October 2011 in the UK. It is hoped that at least one of these will be filmed and made available online and/or in DVD format. :)

    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=360&Itemid=60


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Dew Drops wrote: »
    dustspire.gif

    Following Dr Judy Wood's appearance at the Breakthrough Energy Movement (BEM) Conference during the weekend of 9 – 11 November (yes, how appropriate), she will be at a number of presentations around the UK – in a packed schedule. Dr Wood will be giving an updated/augmented presentation following on from the ones she gave in October 2011 in the UK. It is hoped that at least one of these will be filmed and made available online and/or in DVD format. :)

    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=360&Itemid=60
    How lucky we are that we have someone posting here who is most definitely not Judy Woods but has such a keen knowledge of her work and her schedule. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    Dew Drops wrote: »
    Dr. Judy Wood will be speaking at the Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference while those sitting in the dark will continue to unsuccessfully try to debunk her research. :rolleyes:

    The silver lining from the horrible events of 911 is that it shows clear evidence of a power source that could truly liberate all of humanity and change the world for the better for everyone. The problem of course is that it has been hijacked and weaponised by a cabal of murderous psychopaths. That's the major challenge facing the world. The breakthrough energy movement is a great step in the right direction but defeating the death grip of the global mafia and all of its vile machinations and minions, witting and unwitting, is the major challenge.. The problem is that they are devious and evil to a level that most sane human beings cannot even conceive...that being said I am still hopeful... :)


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Juicee wrote: »
    The silver lining from the horrible events of 911 is that it shows clear evidence of a power source that could truly liberate all of humanity and change the world for the better for everyone.
    How do you know anything about the power source of a weapon you can't actually describe, show exists or even explain how it works?

    How do you know that the power source isn't a machine that controls hurricanes, as has been claimed here?
    How do you know the power source isn't a machine that drains the lifeforce from people?
    What if there is no power source at all and the weapon just just conventionally powered?

    You seem to be making a lot of jumps of logic based on "clear" evidence that you don't seem capable of providing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    King Mob wrote: »
    How do you know anything about the power source of a weapon you can't actually describe, show exists or even explain how it works?

    How do you know that the power source isn't a machine that controls hurricanes, as has been claimed here?
    How do you know the power source isn't a machine that drains the lifeforce from people?
    What if there is no power source at all and the weapon just just conventionally powered?

    You seem to be making a lot of jumps of logic based on "clear" evidence that you don't seem capable of providing?

    Maybe you should go to the BEM conference if you are genuinely interested in these questions (which I seriously doubt)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Juicee wrote: »
    Maybe you should go to the BEM conference if you are genuinely interested in these questions (which I seriously doubt)
    He has a conflict with the fairy unicorn conference in Edinburgh that weekend.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Juicee wrote: »
    Maybe you should go to the BEM conference if you are genuinely interested in these questions (which I seriously doubt)
    Why would I pay to have my questions ignored when I can have them ignored so expertly and so pathetically here?

    Do you not see the problem when you can't actually supply the answers to all of these questions you and Dew Drops and other Judy Woods "fans" have been avoiding?

    Every single question you can't answer is a massive logical hole in the theory.
    And regardless of whether there is an answer, the fact you can't supply it means that you aren't able to address these holes and believe your theory in spite of the fact you know there's holes in it you can't explain.
    Why would you believe in something you know doesn't actually make sense?

    If you are going to be intellectually dishonest about it, at least be clear about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why would I pay to have my questions ignored when I can have them ignored so expertly and so pathetically here?

    Do you not see the problem when you can't actually supply the answers to all of these questions you and Dew Drops and other Judy Woods "fans" have been avoiding?

    Every single question you can't answer is a massive logical hole in the theory.
    And regardless of whether there is an answer, the fact you can't supply it means that you aren't able to address these holes and believe your theory in spite of the fact you know there's holes in it you can't explain.
    Why would you believe in something you know doesn't actually make sense?

    If you are going to be intellectually dishonest about it, at least be clear about it.

    All relevant questions have been answered previously. It is your own dishonesty that is crystal clear here. Your continual obfuscation and other dirty tactics in all of your postings on this thread is evident for all to see.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Juicee wrote: »
    All relevant questions have been answered previously. It is your own dishonesty that is crystal clear here. Your continual obfuscation and other dirty tactics in all of your postings on this thread is evident for all to see.
    Lol, you must be reading a very different thread or have a very different idea of what an answer is.

    The following have not be answered in the slightest.
    How do you know anything about the power source of a weapon you can't actually describe, show exists or even explain how it works?

    How do you know that the power source isn't a machine that controls hurricanes, as has been claimed here?
    How do you know the power source isn't a machine that drains the lifeforce from people?
    What if there is no power source at all and the weapon just just conventionally powered?

    So either answer them, explain how they are irrelevant or obfuscating anything, or grow up and admit you can't answer them.
    I could go back through the thread and pull up the other questions you and you compatriot have failed totally to answer, but you aren't worth the effort when you are pretending questions from 2 posts ago don't exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, you must be reading a very different thread or have a very different idea of what an answer is.

    The following have not be answered in the slightest.
    How do you know anything about the power source of a weapon you can't actually describe, show exists or even explain how it works?

    How do you know that the power source isn't a machine that controls hurricanes, as has been claimed here?
    How do you know the power source isn't a machine that drains the lifeforce from people?
    What if there is no power source at all and the weapon just just conventionally powered?

    So either answer them, explain how they are irrelevant or obfuscating anything, or grow up and admit you can't answer them.
    I could go back through the thread and pull up the other questions you and you compatriot have failed totally to answer, but you aren't worth the effort when you are pretending questions from 2 posts ago don't exist.

    Lol, you are the one who is not worth the effort, but I'm not trying to convince you of anything, (the best I can do as far as you are concerned is to highlight your utter hypocrisy and dishonesty)

    But for any latecomers to the thread...

    the John Hutchison research, which I have posted links to in several previous posts, uses field interference to create strange effects on matter, including jellification (ie turning to jelly) of metal, fusing of incompatible materials such as wood and metal, elevation of objects, weird fires and lots more weird stuff. He does this by combining frequency fields generated by multiple generators (powered from standard wall sockets in his home); where the fields meet / combine or interfere, these strange effects are created. Dr Judy Wood's book shows numerous correlations between the effects created by John Hutchison and the physical evidence of 911. (Some of these are shown here: http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/)

    This explains the basic principle of how the technology works and is powered. The fact that John Hutchison is still alive after 30 years of these experiments probably rules out the idea that its 'draining his life force' :rolleyes:

    All of this info was given to you in earlier posts and links (acknowledged by you, through the link you posted to a pathetically flimsy hitpiece against hutchison) but you keep pretending the questions are not answered. This shows your dishonesty.

    You yourself have continually avoided the 'hydraulics moving molten metal' question. This shows your hypocrisy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    He has a conflict with the fairy unicorn conference in Edinburgh that weekend.
    This post sums up your efforts on this thread perfectly actually. That and trying to get me banned. :rolleyes:



    "To discover new energy, we must first accept it as a scientific possibility. Otherwise we will just not look and we will ridicule those who do." Moray B King (speaking at BEM conference)

    http://globalbem.com/conference/speakers/


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Juicee wrote: »
    Lol, you are the one who is not worth the effort, but I'm not trying to convince you of anything, (the best I can do as far as you are concerned is to highlight your utter hypocrisy and dishonesty)
    And again you avoided the points as usual.
    You can't address them, you aren't honest enough to admit that.

    Your theory makes no sense, you know it makes no sense, but you believe it anyway.
    Juicee wrote: »
    But for any latecomers to the thread...


    the John Hutchison research, which I have posted links to in several previous posts, uses field interference to create strange effects on matter, including jellification (ie turning to jelly) of metal, fusing of incompatible materials such as wood and metal, elevation of objects, weird fires and lots more weird stuff. He does this by combining frequency fields generated by multiple generators (powered from standard wall sockets in his home); where the fields meet / combine or interfere, these strange effects are created. Dr Judy Wood's book shows numerous correlations between the effects created by John Hutchison and the physical evidence of 911. (Some of these are shown here: http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/)
    Except for uncomfortable facts that no one has been able to replicate his effects in controlled scientific conditions. It's all based on what amounts to Star Trek level techno babble such as "combining frequency fields". And there is no a scrap of evidence to show any of the purported effects at the twin towers.
    Juicee wrote: »
    This explains the basic principle of how the technology works and is powered. The fact that John Hutchison is still alive after 30 years of these experiments probably rules out the idea that its 'draining his life force' :rolleyes:
    No it doesn't.
    It's just replacing one form of magic with another, just as stupid form of magic.
    Nor does it exclude any of the other silly, unsupported theories I suggested.
    Juicee wrote: »
    All of this info was given to you in earlier posts and links (acknowledged by you, through the link you posted to a pathetically flimsy hitpiece against hutchison) but you keep pretending the questions are not answered. This shows your dishonesty.
    I never posted any such link. Lol irony.
    Juicee wrote: »
    You yourself have continually avoided the 'hydraulics moving molten metal' question. This shows your hypocrisy
    Except I repeatedly addressed it in several ways before giving up as all my points were being ignored, as usual.
    Further, please show us exactly where you address the points in this post:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81254511&postcount=260

    Probably best not to throw around accusations of hypocrisy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    More pathetic lies


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Juicee wrote: »
    More pathetic lies
    You're welcome to point out which are lies and explain how.
    However this would require your accusation to be true and not just a childish strop because your position has crumbled around you.

    Your theory doesn't make sense. You know it doesn't make sense.
    You only believe it because you are told to by "experts" and you prefer their explanation, then ignore the fact you and they are unable to answer simple direct questions.

    These are not honest ways to believe something.
    So why do you believe it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Juicee wrote: »
    the John Hutchison research, which I have posted links to in several previous posts, uses field interference to create strange effects on matter, including jellification (ie turning to jelly) of metal, fusing of incompatible materials such as wood and metal, elevation of objects, weird fires and lots more weird stuff. He does this by combining frequency fields generated by multiple generators (powered from standard wall sockets in his home); where the fields meet / combine or interfere, these strange effects are created.
    Can you please give us any references to peer-reviewed research that demonstrates these 'Hutchison effects'?

    Or is it just pseudo-scientific horsefeathers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Juicee wrote: »
    All relevant questions have been answered previously.

    Eh, no they haven't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    http://globalbem.com/conference/tickets/

    120 euros a pop...

    Free energy certainly ain't free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Dew Drops


    The Gatekeepers of 911 Truth Exposed
    This video was a collaborative effort between Myself (WHENDASHTF), Charlie Pound (THECHARLYPOUND), Dr. Judy Wood & Andrew Johnson (CHECKTHEEVIDENCE) among others. I try to show how Steven Jones who was receiving funding from the Dept of Energy,manipulated the LENR Technology (coined Cold Fusion) and put a halt to a safe workable alternative to HOT Nuclear Energy. We see the dangerous side of that now in FUKUSHIMA. The Gatekeepers of the '911 Truth Movement' are now manipulating and distracting anyone from further TRUTH with the Nano-Thermite myth and are controlled by their own and others agendas. These buildings were indeed destroyed, not by planes or fire as the official Government story tells you, or by explosives. Look at the evidence with your own eyes and logic.

    Gatekeepers
    music, lyrics, and vocals by Charlie Pound © 2012
    (Full Use Permission Granted)

    So there you go, following them
    But you don't know your just a means to an end
    The truth you seek, they want to hide
    That's why they keep you close by their side. They're the gatekeepers And they hold all the keys They're the gatekeepers Information disease

    Pie in the sky, is all you've been fed
    I think that is why you forgot your own head
    Sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind
    That makes me believe you've lost your own minds -- To the gatekeepers They hold all the keys They're the gate keepers Information disease

    The late great John Lennon comes to mind when I hear The Gatekeepers by Charlie Pound. The still images are from a Baltimore American Physical Society press conference, May 1-2, 1989, where Steven E. Jones orchestrated a vote about whether or not Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions or LENR (aka "Cold Fusion") is bogus and the researchers who brought it forward should be made fools of. Jones holds his hand up and then coerces the others to hold up their hand. Science by press conference vote? However, LENR is NOT Fusion! Steven E. Jones coined the term "Cold Fusion" so that it could be debunked. Dr. Edmund Storms makes reference to this misnomer. (see page 365 of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?) LENR is real....and very related to what happened on 9/11.

    The Jones "Vote" Against Fleischmann and Pons
    http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/StevenEJones/JonesVote.shtml
    Heavy Watergate - The War Against Cold Fusion

    Cold Fusion: Fire From Water
    (At 0:18:50 minutes tritium in LENR is discussed. See pages 372 to 376 of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?)
    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cold-fusion-fire-from-water/
    Russ Gerst on In Other News - Steven "Thermite" Jones & the Cold Fusion Scandal
    (audio source of Russ Gerst where he mentions Jones, cold fusion, 911, Dr. Judy Wood, plus Pons & Fleishmann)

    Physicists Debunk Claim Of a New Kind of Fusion
    (New York Times article of Jones debunking "cold fusion.")
    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/03/us/physicists-debunk-claim-of-a-new-kind-of-fusion.html?scp=136&sq=%22cold+fusion%22&st=nyt

    WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?
    http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

    Dr Judy Wood - "Where Did the Towers Go?" - Holland / UK Presentations - November 2012
    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=360&Itemid=60

    911 and Crop Circles - Connecting the Evidence
    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/39104/911_and_Crop_Circles___Connecting_the_Evidence/

    "People trust their eyes above all else - but most people see what they wish to see, or what they believe they should see; not what is really there" - Zoë Marriott, Shadows on the Moon

    "When one feels no shame in telling a deliberate lie, there is no evil, I tell you, he will not do." - Buddha Gotama, Unknown Book


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Sixtus


    This isn't the Simpsons and you're not going to convince people of your hair brained notions through badly written songs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Dew Drops


    TheShellGame.jpg
    There is a lot of deception, distraction, and diversion going on, both intentional and otherwise, leading people to climb on to popular "theories" or "band wagons". Truth is not established by popularity, although agenda-driven political campaigns are. So we need to establish a better way to sort through the information we find by improving our problem-solving skills.

    There are various groups on the internet lead by nefarious figures such as Richard Gage and Jim Fetzer, each with their own set of beliefs and objectives, promoting how it was done, or who did it or why they did it. But none of them have taken the first step of an investigation which is to determine what it is that was done, that is, to first determine WHAT happened. Until they have done that, they are merely speculating or theorizing or hypothesizing or guessing. This is essentially assuming what happened and then proving the assumptions through biased observations (i.e. "cherry-picking" data). Promoting beliefs distracts away from determining WHAT happened. This is why the order of problem solving is so important. Remember, you must first determine WHAT happened BEFORE you can determine HOW it happened and independent of knowing how it happened.

    Remember how a cover-up works. Get people to theorize and speculate about an imagined problem (i.e Mini-Neutron Bombs), then get them to argue opinions with others. Everyone will be arguing about opinions of speculations of theories of opinions of guesswork, and they'll just go round and round and round and get nowhere. It is amazingly easy to keep a cover up in place! The only way out of that vicious cycle is to deal with the facts and only the facts (empirical evidence).

    If you read WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?, you would know from the EVIDENCE that the Twin Towers turned to dust in mid-air never hitting the ground.

    Bombs do not do that.
    Mini-neutron bombs do not do that.
    Thermite does not do that.
    Thermate does not do that.
    Nano-enhanced thermite does not do that.
    Nano-thermite does not do that.
    New-and-improved super-duper mini-micro-nano thermite does not do that.
    Firecrackers do not do that.
    Fire does not do that.
    Nukes do not do that.
    Megga nukes do not do that.
    Milli-nukes do not do that.
    Mini-nukes do not do that.
    Nano-nukes cannot do that.
    A wrecking ball cannot do that.
    A slingshot cannot do that.
    Missiles cannot do that.

    We know this because we know those things above involve Kinetic Energy and we know that the "dustification" was done without Kinetic Energy. That is, dustification was not done with high heat nor with some other form of Kinetic Energy (wrecking ball, projectile, gravity collapse). The building was not cooked to death nor was it beaten to death. So Kinetic Energy Weapons (KEW) did not destroy the buildings. But we know that Energy was Directed somehow and controlled within fairly precise boundaries only destroying buildings with a WTC prefix to cause them to turn to dust in mid air. That is, some kind of (cold) Directed Energy Weapon (cDEW) had to have done this. (i.e. LENR) Energy was directed and manipulated within the material such that it came apart without involving high heat and without having something fly through the air and hit it (bullets, missile, bombs, wrecking ball, a giant hammer, many micro hammers...)

    If this technology can manipulate energy to do something like this, it can also be manipulated to provide us with "free energy" (i.e. "off the grid"). Simply by looking at the cover of Dr. Wood's book you can realize there must be a technology that can do this. This is evidence that such technology does exist. This is evidence that a technology capable of providing "free energy" ("off the grid") exists. The whole world witnessed this which means the whole world can know that "free-energy technology" exists. This realization will change the world. This is probably the biggest reason why there is so much effort spent misrepresenting, distorting, and suppressing Dr. Wood's research.

    Our educational systems typically "teach the test" and it is usually a multiple-choice test. We are not taught very good problem-solving skills. So it is very easy to manipulate a population with poor problem-solving skills. Get them to focus on the HOW or the WHO and they will never be able to solve the problem. That is the secret. Look at how the official story was designed. We were told "Bin Laden did it." But what is "it" that he did? And look at how the Truther Movement is managed. Well meaning people, looking for answers, are directed to focus on HOW or WHO (i.e. mini-neutron bombs did "it", thermite did "it", the Jooos did "it", "9/11 was an inside job" ). Truthers are also conditioned to attack anyone addressing Dr. Wood's research and are told "she has a bogus theory" when Dr. Wood has no theory, only EVIDENCE. It keeps the well-meaning Truthers from looking at the EVIDENCE like a rodeo clown distracts a bull.

    Why? Look at what the EVIDENCE tells us. It tells us the truth. "Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic."

    The empirical EVIDENCE tells us that the majority of the building turned into dust in mid air. Therefore, something that can do this (turn it into dust in mid air) must exist. That is the proof that it exists. It happened. You don't need the serial numbers for the gizmo to know what happened. When "white man" first arrived on the American continent with firearms, indigenous people did not need to know the serial numbers of their weapons to know what they can do. They didn't need to have seen such weapons in order to know that there exists a weapon that can fire a piece of metal fast enough to kill their brother. Likewise, by the end of the day on August 6, 1945, the people living near Hiroshima, Japan, did not need to understand how a nuclear bomb works in order to know that there exists a technology that can produce enormous amounts of heat or to know that there exists a super-duper Kinetic Energy Weapon (KEW) that is capable of destroying an entire city.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Yeah -
    Look at this dustification - deffo a super high beam thingy causing that!

    EVIDENCE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Dew Drops wrote: »
    Why? Look at what the EVIDENCE tells us. It tells us the truth. "Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic."

    The only evidence here is that there are people in the world who have this type of mindset and they can be exploited. Fortune tellers, tarot cards, TV shows about ghosts, Loch Ness paraphernalia, Scientology, Judy Wood books and conferences.

    It's all the same category, so go sell crazy somewhere else.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    The only evidence here is that there are people in the world who have this type of mindset and they can be exploited. Fortune tellers, tarot cards, TV shows about ghosts, Loch Ness paraphernalia, Scientology, Judy Wood books and conferences.
    ...killing terrorist leaders and then dumping them into the sea...Gadaffi handing out viagra...etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    ...killing terrorist leaders and then dumping them into the sea...Gadaffi handing out viagra...etc

    Those are your personal opinions based on your own personal beliefs. How they are formed is up to you.

    Despite overwhelming evidence some people don't believe the Holocaust happened.. some don't believe man landed on the moon.. and so on. Again, that's up to them.

    Others just have a blindingly obvious loathing and partisan paranoia of a certain country or race of people.. and that drives their own personal beliefs (hint hint)

    In this case, it's an energy weapon that doesn't exist. Usually with a conspiracy theorist there's some sort of evidence at least, something they cling on to, but in this case there's absolutely nothing.

    With no evidence we are into the purest form of faith based belief. About an event that happened just over 10 years ago and was widely filmed. So there's no point in arguing it any more with real world rules.

    My magic space-fairy vs this guys magic energy weapon.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Others just have a blindingly obvious loathing and partisan paranoia of a certain country or race of people.. and that drives their own personal beliefs (hint hint)
    Are you referring to the black Libyans who were ethnically cleansed, massacred, lynched, hung, tortured, had their throats slit etc by the NATO-backed terrorists that you labelled as foriegn mercenaries in your anti-black Libyan CT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Are you referring to the black Libyans who were ethnically cleansed, massacred, lynched, hung, tortured, had their throats slit etc by the NATO-backed terrorists that you labelled as foriegn mercenaries in your anti-black Libyan CT?

    A wild demonstration of my point appears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Dew Drops


    [MOD SNIP]

    Right, enough is enough. This site is not a billboard. Stop using it as such. - Mod


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 DeccyJ


    This is hilarious. I can't really say anything that loads of people haven't already said here, but I have to say something.

    OP, are you absolutely foolish? Photos? Anyone can prove anything with a bloody photo, and it's as easy to misinterpret 100 as it is just 1. Come off it, man. And I know you were on about other stuff too but your analytical faculties are seriously compromised long ago. That said, one incorrect assumption doesn't mean all your ideas are wrong but you've been acting like a fool when people question your posts.

    I only read as far as page 5 of this thread but I'm getting the idea. Yeah, I think that there are serious unanswered questions about 9/11, but as I wasn't there, and I'm not an engineer or scientist who studied the actual evidence (as in being there and working on it full time for a good deal afterwards) any ideas I might have are total conjecture.

    But how about just one: If there was a great energy device that could be used as a weapon it would surely have been built on years upon years of experimentation and development which may have started out as something completely different, possibly not a weapon at all. In which case surely loads of different people around the world would have some idea of its construction, possible uses/misuses, before it was all hushed over simultaneously by every government in the world at some late stage (which could still have been 60 years ago), and eventually put to use by a good number of heartless Americans who presumably had no friends, family, extended family, ex-college buddies, etc to get killed or injured in this wild act of murder unless they all live in some sort of isolated community somewhere.

    If that were true, and this is pure conjecture, surely the 2nd world war was entirely staged after massive planning by a one world oligarchy to convince the population of Earth that our global social and economic fabric is driven, balanced and unbalanced by various nations, geniuses of various natures and lunatics acting in their own self-interest, and as a result there can simply be no sane connection whatsoever between the occurences of Sept 11 (whoever the perpetrators) and a mysterious energy weapon that no one seems to know anything about.

    I'm not saying it's untrue, just highly unlikely. I don't say it's untrue because I don't take photos, videos, theories and opinions as fact.

    Sorry, had to be said. I still say bravo for questioning it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Dew Drops


    'Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura': Death Rays, 9/11 and Murders
    @ 24:00 The John Hutchison Effect
    @ 34:00 Dr. Judy Wood

    Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura is back for a second season, and Jesse is back at his investigative best with new topics such as shapeshifters, death rays, time travel, and more.

    The second episode in the new season focused on the Death Ray, a weapon that can reportedly "vaporize targets and entire cities from miles away." It is also said to have the ability to stop the human heart and give no telltale signs. The coroner will say the death was from "natural causes" when in fact it was from a death ray.

    Whether or not you believe in some of the things Jesse Ventura covers, you've got to admit that the show is quite interesting and often proves some of these more insane theories to be true.

    In episode two of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, the former Navy Seal and Governor ventures into unknown territory, searching for the truth about the death ray.

    Images of metal literally melting, and contorting when hit with the death ray, remind Jesse of how the metal beams found after the buildings collapsed looked.

    Jesse investigates the so-called Hutchinson effect, in which a death ray is put to the test with stunning results.

    Dr. Judy Wood, who wrote a book "Where Did The Towers Go?," spoke to Jesse and his team about the suggestion that the Twin Towers weren't taken down by terrorists or controlled demolition but instead by a death ray.

    Oddly enough, Dr. Judy's research assistant was shot and killed, making it seem as though she might be on the right path with her theory.

    Even though some of Jesse Ventura's topics seem way out in left field, more often than not he has reputable information to back them up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Dew Drops wrote: »
    Whether or not you believe in some of the things Jesse Ventura covers, you've got to admit that the show is quite interesting and often proves some of these more insane theories to be true.
    Um...no you don't. If something was proved true...it would be true. As in a reasonable person would see that it was a fact.

    Death rays? HAARP? 'Hutchison effect'? Unicorns? Pixies?

    Not fact.
    Dew Drops wrote: »
    Oddly enough, Dr. Judy's research assistant was shot and killed, making it seem as though she might be on the right path with her theory.
    It probably would have made more sense to kill you than to kill your research assistant if they wanted this hushed up, don't you think?


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