Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

Mickeroo wrote: »

I don't think Gibbs or Chesney would have made much of a difference today. The attacking third is where our problems are these days and we were more or less at full strength there.

After the reading game I would have no problem with the likes of Arshavin or Chamakh starting in our next league game for no other reason than the first team need a kick up the hole at the moment.

This is the fcuking frustrating part why should we new to turn to Arshavin or Chamak when we have 70 odd million in the banks

Weather it's the board or wenger someone fcuked that one right up

Getting his jersey at half time, hope santos never plays for arsenal again

'arry redknapp reckons it'll be wenger's greatest achievement if he gets this team into the top four


they've been shít now since the international break, there must be some reason for it. Is the wenger-bould riff true? missing diaby?

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Yay active thread again! :pac:

wenger out

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Cleverly and Van Persie could have been sent off before Wilshere I thought, had Van Persie commited the foul he did on Sagna outside Old Trafford I think he would have walked.

I guess it just depends on your aspirations as an Arsenal fan.

Your manager delivers champions league football year in year out despite selling your best players every season.

Granted its tough to win titles when you do that, but its some achievement to make you lot competitive.

I admire him in alot of ways, but I can also see why he infuriates you too.
Arsenal are being run as a business, when the bubble bursts you lot will be best placed to survive, and the bubble bursting may not be as far away as some think.

Wenger is more interested in being true to this footballing philosophy than he is to winning at all costs, its admirable but also costly.

Then again, I am a Liverpool fan so i'm always going to be envious of a side who can cash in on their best players and still operate in the top 4 year in year out. Its miraculous really, but I appreciate the bar is being set a little higher at Arsenal than at Liverpool right now.

Deleted User wrote: »

How Ramsey, and Santos are starting on this Arsenal team is beyond me and Vermaelen is a shadow of the player he was. A typically inept performance. I honestly dunno what Wenger has to offer Arsenal any more. His judgement on players is very questionable. Jenkinson hasnt done alot wrong this year yet Santos who is a liability played instead of him. Ramsey continously loses the ball fu*king about with his flicks and showponying. Podolski wasted two balls passing them over the sideline today. Todays perfomance, although the scoreline didnt reflect it, was worse then the AC Milan game at the San Siro last year

Thing is Santos wasn't at fault for any of the goals today. Yes he f**ked up a few times but I really don't think he was the worst out there today.

Overall, it was just a gutless performance. We had nothing going forward and midfield looked totally disinterested. I think our biggest problem is that our two full backs, regardless of who they are, aren't pushing forward enough to put in crosses to Giroud. Even Sagna today, who I was expecting to be the main supplier of crosses, didn't seem to want to go forward today or take people on. Santos wasted two crosses but was only in that position maybe 3 times on the break.

I am starting to have serious doubts about this formation. I think Giroud needs someone to be playing off him to maximise his effectiveness. Our full backs aren't really getting the support they need from midfield and Ramsey shouldn't be anywhere near the right wing. If we had Diaby out there today on form, it could have been a different story, but unless some changes are made I can see this type of game repeating throughout the season.

wonga77 wrote: »

Why oh why didnt he take Wilshere off? He had already got away with a clumsy tackle on rvp, Fergie didnt waste any time in whipping off Cleverly. Outside of the fact that some of the players are playing poorly the one thing that concerns me is the lack of leadership. I always thought Verm would step into that role but he's a shadow of his former self and looks rock bottom on confidence. Ramsey and santos are liabilities

Actually, over the last few games, I'd say Vermaelen is a far bigger liability. As far as I remember, he has been directly at fault for at least 2 or 3 of the goals. Then in an attempt to make up for it he makes breaks forward leaving the defence vulnerable, especially when you have Santos coming into the centre trying to cover for him. Maybe he needs a break for a while or maybe it's the captains armband is giving him too much pressure. If that is the case, then I think the armband should go to Mert as he has been pretty much rock solid in defence for us so far this year.

peabutler wrote: »

Cleverly and Van Persie could have been sent off before Wilshere I thought, had Van Persie commited the foul he did on Sagna outside Old Trafford I think he would have walked.

Van Persie's foul was never a red. It's a yellow every time but not a red. He was late, that was it.

Phoenix wrote: »

What would that achieve?

Getting rid of a has-been manager

Utterly gutless performance by Arsenal today, they got very lucky against QPR last week, when only winning the game due to QPR losing a player and they were woefull against Norwich in the previous game too. Very worrying times as an Arsenal fan. Wilshere was the only player out there that seemed to give a **** today, but anyone with a football brain could see that there was a good chance he'd get sent off after the ref warned him, so I think he should have been sacrificed, at least we'd be in with a bit of a chance 11 v 11 (albeit scarce chance). Cleverly should have walked before Wilshere in my opinion, but at least Fergie had the cop on to sub him, when he was on his last warning. It could and should have been 3/4-0 to united today. It was boys against men out there at times. I would class myself as a patient fan, but I am getting sick of us selling our best players, then building a team, selling on more players, all the while taking beatings from our rivals along the way. Rant over/

Sick again after another tame effort at Old Trafford, no width, no pace, no cohesian, no leaders, and fcuk all bottle. Gone are they good owl days when we had players that wore there heart on there sleeve. Only for Manonne it would of been 4 or 5 and this is a Utd side in first gear. Just simply not good enough anymore!!