Obama Vs Romney

pickarooney · 02-11-2012 10:28AM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Sandy has done the Romney camp no favours and the endorsement Obama got from New Jersey's Republican Governor Chris Christie's was also a blow. But it is important to remember that the states affected by Sandy are Obama states. If turnout is affected by this, then it could really benefit Romney in an already very close race.

How does that work? Did Sandy specifically hit Democratic parts of New York and New Jersey?

crazy cabbage · 02-11-2012 10:35AM

I hope to god that romney doesn't get in. He is such an idot.

If he doesn't get in he is pritty much going to jail becouse he has comitted 2 federal crimes. He cant be proscuted however while he is running for president (some law or another).

He has flat out insulted russia. i dont know much about politics but i know that you dont insult another world power and call them your worst enemy when they have nukes

f**King idot

he has flat out told countless lies. for example lieing to ohio that one of its main industrys was thinking of moving to china. This was the exact oposite of the truth that the company in question came out and said that they were increasing and expanding its workforce in ohio. Needless to say romney is still claiming to be right and has set up an add campain around it.

You should look up romney debates romney. It is a video that someone made that takes clipings of loads of his speaches over the course of his campain and shows that every point that he has made he has said the exact opposite somewhere else (pritty much). would post the video but no youtube axcess at the min

Franticfrank · 02-11-2012 10:42AM

He has flat out insulted russia. i dont know much about politics but i know that you dont insult another world power and call them your worst enemy when they have nukes f**King idot

World leaders do this all the time. Whatever about nukes, you should go to jail when you invade another country when you accuse them of having chemical weapon stockpiles and they really don't.

GalwayGuy2 · 02-11-2012 10:46AM

If he doesn't get in he is pritty much going to jail becouse he has comitted 2 federal crimes. He cant be proscuted however while he is running for president (some law or another).

Really? That's interesting if it's true:O

I've actually changed my mind and I will be watching it:P

crazy cabbage · 02-11-2012 10:51AM

Franticfrank wrote: »

World leaders do this all the time. Whatever about nukes, you should go to jail when you invade another country when you accuse them of having chemical weapon stockpiles and they really don't.

yes but not in such a blunt way. That would be like enda saying that england is our number one enemy. you just dont do that. say that you dont agree with there ideas or goverment but not that they are your number one enemy. That sh1t can start wars.

pickarooney · 02-11-2012 10:52AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Gary Johnson ftw

Excellent candidate and the big two parties both deserve a kicking

What's the Libertarian stance on healthcare and education? Or anything else for that matter. 140 characters or less.

Father Damo · 02-11-2012 10:59AM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Definitely will be glued to it. Great entertainment these are. I'm hoping Obama takes it.

Is there anyone outside of the US with a brain who is hoping for Romney? The fact such an idiot is backed by anyone, let alone potentially just over half a population, it beggars belief. He is easily far worse than Bush. For all his faults I honestly reckon, generally speaking, Bush did what he thought was right, however error prone and disastrous it might have turned out. Romney is plain evil with a monarchist like contempt for the common working man, and yet he is bizarrely managing to persuade a great deal of the white working class to assist him solidfying the power and wealth of the super wealthy. And we thought we had it bad with people voting here along civil war lines, compared to this sh1te we are not all that bad.

As for all the Obama criticism, most of his broken promises have only been broken because the house republicans have usually refused to play ball with any reforms he does try and put in. Aside from all that, do these people forget that he consistently and repeatedtly stated when running, and when he won, that the country would not change over night, would potentially get worse before it got better etc etc etc. He didnt prticularly lie about anything and they are gradually moving in the right direction. The US should be ashamed of itself if they elect the other dickhead.

El Guapo! · 02-11-2012 11:10AM

When exactly is it on? I might stay up to watch it if I don't have work the following day.

GalwayGuy2 · 02-11-2012 11:15AM

For all his faults I honestly reckon, generally speaking, Bush did what he thought was right, however error prone and disastrous it might have turned out. Romney is plain evil with a monarchist like contempt for the common working man, and yet he is bizarrely managing to persuade a great deal of the white working class to assist him solidfying the power and wealth of the super wealthy. And we thought we had it bad with people voting along civil war lines, compared to this sh1te we are not all that bad.here

Kind of random, but I think he came across kind of like Sinn Feinn in a few of the debates. Not anything he was actually saying, but in the lack of detail, rabble rousing and saying anything to get into power vibe.

Matt_Trakker · 02-11-2012 11:23AM

I really don't like American politics but I'd much prefer if Obama won.

This Romney guys is a pure clown. I mean they couldn't let someone of his intelligence run the place, could they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxMD02zU9SE

Like he actually believes that Jebus will return and split a mountain and then for 1000 year he'll run the world from Jerusalem & Missouri
#cuckoobananas

..hmmm vid didn't post, here's the link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t6t113syr0&feature=youtu.be

I know it's long so tl;dr
Mormons hate, really really hate, like Hitler-esque hate black people.

...can you add the 2nd vid mods? It ain't workin for me

Drakares · 02-11-2012 11:27AM

People should take more of an interest in this, IMO. Whether or not we'll be voting, we're going to be heavily affected by whoever wins. What America does, as a super power pretty much has a knock on affect to us and much of the rest of the world.

Romney is bad news. I really hope Obama wins.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 02-11-2012 11:38AM

CHANGE!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WXhO_-e3bM

Funglegunk · 02-11-2012 11:38AM

Obama has an 80.9% chance of winning according to Nate Silver's blog fivethirtyeight. He has a pretty good recording of predicting US election results, including congressional, gubernatorial (love that word) and senate elections. So Romney has a 19% chance of winning as of today, which is still a decent chance (iirc he gave McCain a 2.5% chance of winning in 2008) and may change before the end of the week.

Matt_Trakker · 02-11-2012 11:41AM

Drakares wrote: »

we're going to be heavily affected by whoever wins.

I hear that a lot, but is it really true?
Like honestly, I'm trying to think of something that's happened since Obama came to power that has had an effect on my personal life. I honestly can't think of anything.
And don't just say 'the economy' that was a shítstorm b4 Obama.
Same goes for Afghanistan & Iraq.
OK he killed Osama, big whoop, but I'm not entirely comfortable with Obama's murderous leaning and complete lack of respect for court systems & justice. Wouldn't it be better to bring war criminals to trial and then hang them?

I really don't think that America has the same influence any more.

Drakares wrote: »

Romney is bad news. I really hope Obama wins.

But yea, he's a nutjob who wears magic underpants

ballsymchugh · 02-11-2012 11:47AM

jack presley wrote: »

I don't stay up to watch our own election results so I'm not going to watch some other country's.

election results in ireland are announced from about 9pm on the count day, and they don't stay late in the count centres. what sort of metabolism have you that can't stay awake for those?

i stayed up 4 years ago and watched the acceptance speech. got about an hour's sleep. goosebumpy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsiYwmNz8uk

renofan · 02-11-2012 11:51AM

Its a bit of a joke tbh. To me it kind of sums up the aul US of A for me. You only get somewhere there if you have money. Just look at the money that was spent, it would help a few countries out of recession.

BraziliaNZ · 02-11-2012 12:16PM

Has anyone seen this little sweetheart yet? Bronco Bamma, haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLuOH0FMBM

squod · 02-11-2012 12:28PM

Think it's fairly close. One of them needs to Oirish it up a bit, as much as the other fella is jewishing his campaign.

Romnowitz vs O'Bama really isn't it?

Dravokivich · 02-11-2012 12:29PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Has anyone seen this little sweetheart yet? Bronco Bamma, haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLuOH0FMBM

Was reading about it earlier. Don't get how there's so much coverage for it. It's just a kid saying something, she'd be too young to even realise what any of this presidential campaign is about. Then adults chiming in saying they are tired of it as well. Well fúck me, why don't they disband democracy already?

BraziliaNZ · 02-11-2012 01:03PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Was reading about it earlier. Don't get how there's so much coverage for it. It's just a kid saying something, she'd be too young to even realise what any of this presidential campaign is about. Then adults chiming in saying they are tired of it as well. Well fúck me, why don't they disband democracy already?

Because she's adoreable. Same reasons we watch pandas sneezing etc.

martingriff · 02-11-2012 01:08PM

BobbyPropane wrote: »

American Politics. Who looks the best. Who is for abortion, who is against abortion. Which one won the debate I'll vote for him. He's black I'll vote for him. He's black I wont vote for him. Romney is a republican who will most likely ruin America in the long run with his pro capitalism funding from oil and car companies. Obama is a socialist who will cause anarchy and not help with economic recovery.

You only get two choices in the land of freedom.

There are more than 2. 2 realistic choices yes but there are more than 2 on the ticket

Edit: To answer the OP yes I will stay up anyone know a good website to watch to see all results including senate and the house also

Chuck Stone · 02-11-2012 01:16PM

The day a Libertarian gets near the White House is the day he's either sold out or he gets a bullet in the face.

MJ23 · 02-11-2012 01:36PM

I wouldn't vote for Mick Romney, he has a bit of snakey head on him.

Drakares · 02-11-2012 01:50PM

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

I hear that a lot, but is it really true?
Like honestly, I'm trying to think of something that's happened since Obama came to power that has had an effect on my personal life. I honestly can't think of anything.
And don't just say 'the economy' that was a shítstorm b4 Obama.
Same goes for Afghanistan & Iraq.
OK he killed Osama, big whoop, but I'm not entirely comfortable with Obama's murderous leaning and complete lack of respect for court systems & justice. Wouldn't it be better to bring war criminals to trial and then hang them?

I really don't think that America has the same influence any more.

Iran / Israel and Syria - if not handled properly could lead to WW3 (removes tinfoil hat).

America is decades ahead of every other country when it comes to military technologies, having some clown at the helm of this doesn't bode well for everyone, no matter how many policies are in place (Look at Afghanistan/Iraq)

The world is a big global field economically, with agriculture, oil, transport etc. So if the USA did have a massive slump with their economy, there would be a massive knock-on affect in import/export prices, jobs etc.

And the list goes on.

rossie1977 · 02-11-2012 02:55PM

romney changes his mind more than he changes his underwear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0m_xXvQlvg

bnt · 02-11-2012 03:07PM

I think The Economist has nailed it: they have endorsed one of the candidates ... barely:

We very much hope that whichever of these men wins office will prove our pessimism wrong. Once in the White House, maybe the Romney of the mind will become reality, cracking bipartisan deals to reshape American government, with his vice-president keeping the headbangers in the Republican Party in line. A re-elected President Obama might learn from his mistakes, clean up the White House, listen to the odd businessman and secure a legacy happier than the one he would leave after a single term. Both men have it in them to be their better selves; but the sad fact is that neither candidate has campaigned as if that is his plan.

As a result, this election offers American voters an unedifying choice. Many of The Economist’s readers, especially those who run businesses in America, may well conclude that nothing could be worse than another four years of Mr Obama. We beg to differ. For all his businesslike intentions, Mr Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says. That is not a convincing pitch for a chief executive. And for all his shortcomings, Mr Obama has dragged America’s economy back from the brink of disaster, and has made a decent fist of foreign policy. So this newspaper would stick with the devil it knows, and re-elect him.

MadYaker · 02-11-2012 03:15PM

Obama is probably the safest bet. I think Romney has shown himself to be totally unfit for office (the 49% video etc etc) and his running mate and all the other wackos on the right are a serious liability. American politics is in a sorry state. This has been the nastiest election ever. Its been all about why you shouldn't vote for the other guy rather than the candidates focusing on their own strengths. I think a lot of Americans are pretty unsatisfied with their options.

Herb Powell · 02-11-2012 03:17PM

If Obama "didn't get anything done" in his first term, it was because of congress, opposing him at every step, seemingly for the sake of it.

The system is fuccking stupid.

General Zod · 02-11-2012 03:20PM

MadYaker wrote: »

American politics is in a sorry state. This has been the nastiest election ever.

Not even close. There hasn't even been a "swiftboat veterans for truth" type canard and even that election wasn't the worst.

02-11-2012 04:33PM

pickarooney wrote: »

How does that work? Did Sandy specifically hit Democratic parts of New York and New Jersey?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Unless Obama took a dump on someone's face who was lying with limbs missing after the storm he's not got to worry about NJ/NY.

Chuck Stone wrote: »

The day a Libertarian gets near the White House is the day he's either sold out or he gets a bullet in the face.

I was wondering with Ron Paul's campaign if it was an odd kind of attempt at assisted suicide. :pac:

Herb Powell wrote: »

If Obama "didn't get anything done" in his first term, it was because of congress, opposing him at every step, seemingly for the sake of it.

The system is fuccking stupid.

Obama was just **** politically and how people like Hilary Clinton didn't tell him so is amazing. When the debt ceiling thing was happening one of the Comedy Central shows had a clip of about 10 months earlier when the Democrats had capitulated to something else. Obama was dressing it up as a compromise and some journalist who looked like he was on work experience from high school asked if Obama was worried that since he'd given the Republicans what they wanted that they'd refuse to co-operate on the debt ceiling. Did none of the staff think the same thing? Whatever about obstructionism by the Republicans, there's ways around it that the Democrats never seem to manage and they seem to love capitulating and calling it compromise.

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