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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman



    On the other point, it's bizarre, but I always get sort of nervous in guitar shops when talking to the staff, even though I'm pretty sure I know more than them. So I overtalk: ...

    I do exactly the same thing. Sometimes I even feign ignorance for no apparent reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat


    no i didnt ask for a deal ,
    everyone and his mother knows thomann is out there ,
    they should be tracking prices and adjusting within reason .

    if they were 3 or 4 quid dearer - i would probably go for it , but a tenner a set more ? GTFO musicmaker .



    rigsby

    yeah, i can see why flats would be left on , 39 years - wow
    but they would not have the high end left in them for what im on about .

    im sure theyd sound great in general though .

    i cant keep rounds on my other bass longer than 3 months as they lose growl.
    although these are ernie ball and may be in fact ****e.


    also the daddarios flat strings do not seem to last as well in the top end as the fenders .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭BSOM


    alphabeat wrote: »
    no i didnt ask for a deal ,
    everyone and his mother knows thomann is out there ,
    they should be tracking prices and adjusting within reason .

    if they were 3 or 4 quid dearer - i would probably go for it , but a tenner a set more ? GTFO musicmaker .

    Ok, ill match the Thomann price on one packet of strings. That will be
    €25.00 for the strings and the €15 for carriage please.

    Thomann ship 7000 packages a week, prices can change from month to month with supplier. I need to buy 150 packets to get the best price to give the best discount, so if I was to keep up with Thomann I would have to be selling as many packets as them per week ergo, if you shopped or asked the lads for a discount on a bulk deal, they would sell more packets, buy more packets and then be able to give a better price. Also, what happens when someone come in and gets them off the shelf for the same price as Thomann and now wants a discount for buying more than one set.

    Great how economics work eh ? Anyways, sorry about the waffle but basically next time go in and ask them if they can sort you out and if they say no then come on and give out. 100% if you ask they will sort something for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭BSOM


    alphabeat wrote: »


    also the daddarios flat strings do not seem to last as well in the top end as the fenders .

    Also, sorry Fender strings are made by D'Addario....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    alphabeat wrote: »


    rigsby

    yeah, i can see why flats would be left on , 39 years - wow
    but they would not have the high end left in them for what im on about .

    im sure theyd sound great in general though .

    i cant keep rounds on my other bass longer than 3 months as they lose growl.
    although these are ernie ball and may be in fact ****e.


    also the daddarios flat strings do not seem to last as well in the top end as the fenders .


    I use TI jazz flats. Perhaps you could do some research on them, if you are not already familiar with them. They are known for their high/mid range tone, and are fairly bright as flats go. They have very low tension though, which is not for everyone.

    They are expensive, so regular changing would be very costly.

    Anyway, see what you think.


    The cheapest on line site I could find that sells them is :

    http://www.lordofthestrings.com/lots/RAPRD/Thomastik-JF344-Jazz-Flat/11001621.html



    AFAIK, shipping is free on orders over €20.



    Looks like Thomann does them too. Not sure if their price includes shipping.


    http://www.thomann.de/ie/thomastik_jf344.htm?sid=59536101e523d0d44cc186e91cc2ebee


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat


    BSOM wrote: »
    Also, sorry Fender strings are made by D'Addario....


    whatever
    the fenders do not feel the same / and seem to last longer as the dadd chromes -

    FACT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat


    BSOM wrote: »
    Ok, ill match the Thomann price on one packet of strings. That will be
    €25.00 for the strings and the €15 for carriage please.

    Great how economics work eh ? Anyways, sorry about the waffle but basically next time go in and ask them if they can sort you out and if they say no then come on and give out. 100% if you ask they will sort something for you.


    no idea what you are on about .

    and re asking them yeah, i doubt it , and if i want to moan on a forum about it - i will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    You can come on to the forum and moan but it doesn't mean that anyone wants to read your posts. From your general attitude here - quite confrontational, really - I can't say that I do anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ElectricTaurus


    Hi guys,

    my 2 cents Music Maker has totally changed with the new owner, price are really good and if you asked most of the guys at the counter will knock off few quids for you in some occasion, if you are a good customer they will apply a Thomann price to what you want to buy.

    I normally buy 4 sets a months depending on gigs and they always do a good deal.

    Two weeks ago I bought a Marshall Echohead for 50€s, on Thomann was 99€, they had the same discount on all the Marshall range.

    My best advise is to shop around , especially for string Strings.ie it's great site for bulk sets.

    I like Thomann and I like Music Maker , I fully understand that its impossible to compare one of the biggest shop in Europe with Music Maker simply is not working that way, the price in Dublin are all the same Perfect Pitch,Goodwins,Guitar Centre, Some Neck Guitar, Sound Gear, Waltons and son on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭BSOM


    alphabeat wrote: »
    no idea what you are on about .

    and re asking them yeah, i doubt it , and if i want to moan on a forum about it - i will


    Your entitled to moan all you like but your information (having not asked the lads for a discount) is incorrect.

    Also, the E15 comment is about spending under 199 on Thomann you will spend an extra 15 on shipping so anything under 199 add 15 euro to the price and then see if the shop is more or less... just saying.

    Hope you do ask the lads the next time your in and they give you a discount.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭up'Chuck


    reniwren wrote: »
    When it comes to talking to the shop attendants personally for some reason I have never felt welcome in Musicmaker might be just me
    Rigsby wrote: »
    Nope, you are not alone, I feel ther same way about Musicmaker. When I cross the road to Guitar Centre however, the vibes I get are much warmer and welcoming.

    They actually lift their heads away from what they are doing, and either nod, or say hello. :eek:

    I'm the exact same. when i go in they look at me like i cant hold a tune. I've no real complaints about the price to be honest. it's what you pay to be able to try out guitars and amps before purchasing, and their strings have never been problematic for me (guitarist though).

    i love going into perfect pitch... the old lad in there is always sound to me and talks to me on even level about anything. he's also helped me get my guitar intanated by one of the lads that those them for the shops in the area, no profit for him in that. and i wouldn't exactly be a regular, more a frequenter between him and mcullagh pigots (no idea how to spell that). also the lads in musician were always willing to talk to you about things casually. was a real homely store.

    the guy upstairs also gave me backwards information about preamps. got it all straightened up on here which is a godsend because my original problem was, i had bought the wrong thing from thomann, and if i had bought that i would have just doubled my error.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    I find the guys in Guitar Centre bang on. I was up looking at high end acoustics in Musicmaker a while back, and yer man immediately launched into a blurb about what I should be looking for. I knew what I was looking for but didn't get a chance to explain that I had been playing for 20+ years, so kind of had a clue what I wanted.

    Anyways, by chance I went across to the Guitar Centre, and ended up buying there, not because I didn't want to buy in musicmaker (I have spent a few quid in musicmaker over the years, so have nothing against them at all).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    I find the guys in Guitar Centre bang on.
    Anyways, by chance I went across to the Guitar C buying there



    I agree about GC. Always a warm friendly welcome when you enter. However, from a bass aspect, their stock is very low. Last time I was in, there were only about four or five basses (all Cort). AFAIK they are supposed to be agents for G&L. I have never seen one in there. I suppose it's hard to get the balance ( i.e. good attitude and choice) right. Granted, it is a small shop, but four basses.....!!

    BTW, their stock of basses was more or less the same in the "boom" years too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    They often have G&L guitars - both Tribute and USA - but I don't think I've seen a bass there before.

    There's a used Legacy on the wall at the moment. Saw it yesterday but can't remember how much it was. Reasonable, I imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    They often have G&L guitars - both Tribute and USA - but I don't think I've seen a bass there before.

    Yeah, I have seen some G&L guitars there alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭wild turkey


    Guitar Center across the road have a few G&L's as well !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭zafo


    Guitar Center across the road have a few G&L's as well !

    They are talking about Guitar Centre.

    Seeing as this thread was started about strings. Anyone know where one might procure a single .120 bass string in Dublin? I'm happy to be ripped off and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    Before calling them a ripoff, point out the price difference.

    Not familiar with the Guitar guys, but the guys in the Drum Dept would usually try their best to match an online price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    i don't care about high rent vat etc

    all i want when buying an instrument or strings is the best price plain and simple

    thomann are savage , musicmaker i found to be full of alternative heads and rockers , i personally didn't feel comfy in there and their prices were sky high for what i was after

    sorry

    plus european superstores affect every type of business here not just musical stores etc

    sure itunes has ****ed up the hmv's and golden disc's etc with online music downloads , me personally i prefer to have a hard copy of my music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    zafo wrote: »

    Seeing as this thread was started about strings. Anyone know where one might procure a single .120 bass string in Dublin? I'm happy to be ripped off and all.

    Not sure about bricks and mortar shops, but you could check out www.strings.ie

    He is a member of boards and posts here from time to time. Seems like a genuine guy who might be able to help you out.

    Failing that you could try www.xmusic.ie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman



    sure itunes has ****ed up the hmv's and golden disc's etc with online music downloads , me personally i prefer to have a hard copy of my music

    Surely this would be similar to someone wanting to try out a guitar before buying it - hence the need for bricks and mortar shops.

    In general I like low prices, though don't we all. But if I could get the kind of gear that interests me in Ireland for just a little bit more than I'd pay online from the States I'd probably buy it here just to spread the love around. Unfortunately I've seen guitars that I now own priced at as much as three times what I paid online in local shops. In those situations no amount of good will or economic patriotism is going to get me to buy.

    Regardless, most of the money leaves the country when you buy an instruments made outside of Ireland anyway, but that's a totally different story.


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