Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

ssbob · 31-10-2012 12:32PM

GreeBo wrote: »

I think you are misguided if you think Lowry has some magical ability that the rest of them dont have.

He is number 57 in the world, he is obviously a vastly better player than 1000's of other pro golfers around the world so yes that does mean he has better ability than "MOST" others.

As for Kyle Stanley, I watched that whole tournament and basically he destroyed the course with his power but it came down to hitting that last shot, and he completely bottled it!

All I am saying is that on the US tour for the vast majority of tournaments, you need to hit the ball high, long and have a good array of chips from the high rough around the greens.

Shane offers something different.........end of!

ForeRight · 31-10-2012 12:40PM

Did anyone else notice the little ponch on Harrington at the grand slam last week.

Maybe a big of extra timber does actually improve the game.

That's my excuse anyway. Makes me do a good wide arc avoiding my belly

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 02:19PM

ssbob wrote: »

He is number 57 in the world, he is obviously a vastly better player than 1000's of other pro golfers around the world so yes that does mean he has better ability than "MOST" others.

As for Kyle Stanley, I watched that whole tournament and basically he destroyed the course with his power but it came down to hitting that last shot, and he completely bottled it!

All I am saying is that on the US tour for the vast majority of tournaments, you need to hit the ball high, long and have a good array of chips from the high rough around the greens.

Shane offers something different.........end of!

By that logic he will do badly if he moves to the US tour as he wont have the experience of hitting the shots you mention above.

I dont disagree that Stanley hit a bad shot, but I disagree that he couldn't have hit a half 8/9 if we wanted to.

ssbob · 31-10-2012 02:30PM

GreeBo wrote: »

By that logic he will do badly if he moves to the US tour as he wont have the experience of hitting the shots you mention above.

I dont disagree that Stanley hit a bad shot, but I disagree that he couldn't have hit a half 8/9 if we wanted to.

Hardly what I am saying but I think Shane has a greater arsenal of shots from the more practice he gets, he is obviously a good big course player as he proved in the BMW last year and the Dubai World Championship last year.

I think Stanley could have hit a half 8/9 but it came down to the amount of times he has practiced that and he didn't feel confident to hit it so therefore given that postion Shane would have had a greater amount of shots to choose from.

We can agree to disagree if you like just to let the conversation move on?

Neeson · 31-10-2012 02:41PM

ForeRight wrote: »

Did anyone else notice the little ponch on Harrington at the grand slam last week.

Maybe a big of extra timber does actually improve the game.

That's my excuse anyway. Makes me do a good wide arc avoiding my belly

Indeed. However, I'd say Shane carries a bigger ponch than Harrington. Would the extra weight not also get in the way of a good swing, especially if he is heavy in the breast department?

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 03:12PM

ssbob wrote: »

Hardly what I am saying but I think Shane has a greater arsenal of shots from the more practice he gets, he is obviously a good big course player as he proved in the BMW last year and the Dubai World Championship last year.

I think Stanley could have hit a half 8/9 but it came down to the amount of times he has practiced that and he didn't feel confident to hit it so therefore given that postion Shane would have had a greater amount of shots to choose from.

We can agree to disagree if you like just to let the conversation move on?

Unless he is practising more than the others (and I think he has admitted he doesnt) then by definition if he is hitting more punched 8irons then he is hitting less high, soft SW's and so wont be as good at them as the guys who (according to you) dont/cant/wont play those 3/4 types of shots.

But agreed, it seems we just need to agree to disagree!

Kevinmarkham · 31-10-2012 03:42PM

You know, I'm sick and tired of people making comments about Shane's weight. I was going to go back and count the number of posts making digs at his weight and then I thought life's too damn short.

So maybe he loses 3 stone and he wins the Grand Slam next year, or maybe he loses 3 stone and he completely loses his swing, balance, timing and has to go restructuring his swing and ends up doing a Harrington.

The guy won his first event as a Pro two weeks ago and followed it up with a 5th place last week and yet people still feel the need to comment on his weight. He's bigger than most but it works for him - and quite frankly I think it's encouraging that he's happy to do it his way. I wish him the best of luck.

Jaysoose · 31-10-2012 03:48PM

To be fair you need to calm down and read the posts better im not seeing people having digs im reading that people are all very supportive of shane and want him to be even more successful, its only common sense that being fitter and healthier can only be a good thing.

Like it or not he is in the public eye and people are entitled to comment regardless of your feelings on the subject so you can save the moral outrage routine.

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 03:55PM

^
+1
I don't think I have seen anyone really make negative comments about him, just that (we) think he would benefit from being fitter.

Kevinmarkham · 31-10-2012 04:08PM

Jaysoose wrote: »

To be fair you need to calm down and read the posts better im not seeing people having digs im reading that people are all very supportive of shane and want him to be even more successful, its only common sense that being fitter and healthier can only be a good thing.

Like it or not he is in the public eye and people are entitled to comment regardless of your feelings on the subject so you can save the moral outrage routine.

I agree that "being fitter and healthier can only be a good thing"... for his health, but who are we to say it's better for his golf. Everyone is making the assumption that his game will improve if he loses a stone or three, and questioning his commitment because he's not doing so.

And here are a few 'supportive' quotes from recent pages:

'i doubt the man knows what colour his shoes are.'

'Could you imagine what size he'd be if he wasn't playing golf!'

'IMO Not losing weight when you are clearly overweight shows a lack of drive to be the best you can be.'

As for my "moral outrage routine" - thanks for noticing.

Neeson · 31-10-2012 04:20PM

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Kevinmarkham wrote: »

And here are a few 'supportive' quotes from recent pages:

'i doubt the man knows what colour his shoes are.'
Ah now that's a funny one!

'Could you imagine what size he'd be if he wasn't playing golf!' This is true.

'IMO Not losing weight when you are clearly overweight shows a lack of drive to be the best you can be.'
This is true.

Jaysoose · 31-10-2012 04:26PM

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

I agree that "being fitter and healthier can only be a good thing"... for his health, but who are we to say it's better for his golf. Everyone is making the assumption that his game will improve if he loses a stone or three, and questioning his commitment because he's not doing so.

And here are a few 'supportive' quotes from recent pages:

'i doubt the man knows what colour his shoes are.'

'Could you imagine what size he'd be if he wasn't playing golf!'

'IMO Not losing weight when you are clearly overweight shows a lack of drive to be the best you can be.'

As for my "moral outrage routine" - thanks for noticing.

You found one sad attempt at humour from somebody that is neither funny nor clever and are trying to tar everybody with the same brush.

Also im not saying for a minute his golf will improve but for his longevity in the game and when the heat is on if he progresses to compete in majors being fit is essential.

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 06:08PM

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

I agree that "being fitter and healthier can only be a good thing"... for his health, but who are we to say it's better for his golf. Everyone is making the assumption that his game will improve if he loses a stone or three, and questioning his commitment because he's not doing so.

And here are a few 'supportive' quotes from recent pages:

'i doubt the man knows what colour his shoes are.'

'Could you imagine what size he'd be if he wasn't playing golf!'

'IMO Not losing weight when you are clearly overweight shows a lack of drive to be the best you can be.'

As for my "moral outrage routine" - thanks for noticing.

Just for the hell of it, lets take a look at that quote in context.

i doubt the man knows what colour his shoes are. with his natural talent he should slim down, build up his core and give himself a chance at being the best he can be. no reason why he couldn't be challenging Rory every week, he has the skills.

Sorry if that ruins your point.

PARlance · 31-10-2012 07:20PM

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

I agree that "being fitter and healthier can only be a good thing"... for his health, but who are we to say it's better for his golf. Everyone is making the assumption that his game will improve if he loses a stone or three, and questioning his commitment because he's not doing so.

^^^ +1000

Once Shane can do this, he'll be Number 1 in the world :eek::)

cornerboy · 31-10-2012 07:34PM

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the shotmaker to the gym monkey

Joemac501 · 31-10-2012 08:06PM

What a load of self opinionated buffoons on this thread.
This is supposed to be a thread to celebrate the immense talent of Shane.
Not a weight watchers forum.
Shane is obviously happy the way things are going for him. Why should he change anything.

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 08:16PM

Joemac501 wrote: »

What a load of self opinionated buffoons on this thread.
This is supposed to be a thread to celebrate the immense talent of Shane.
Not a weight watchers forum.
Shane is obviously happy the way things are going for him. Why should he change anything.

Erm no it isn't.

From the Opening Post:

Trampas wrote: »

With Shane going to be starting his first full year on the tour what does he need to do to make him a better golfer?

It's a thread where people share their views about Shane Lowry and what they think he should/could do to improve his game, not a love-in.

Su Campu · 31-10-2012 08:16PM

Joemac501 wrote: »

What a load of self opinionated buffoons on this thread.
This is supposed to be a thread to celebrate the immense talent of Shane.
No a weight watchers forum.

Is it really? The title just says "Shane Lowry", nothing in there about an appreciation society. Still, everyone is enjoying his good form, and I have not seen one comment to the contrary. Many just think he could be even better if he slimmed down a bit, as that would improve his stamina. Think of the 36-hole per day competitions. He could find the going tough come the 35th hole when the chips are down.

Anyone who does agree that being overweight instead of in peak physical condition is then one of what you said above.

kyleman · 31-10-2012 08:46PM

cornerboy wrote: »

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the shotmaker to the gym monkey

I agree entirely easy to trim down and bulk up , not so easy become a shotmaker .Anyway i have seen shane play a few times and would surprise a lot of you but he is relatively slim and his swing is so full of rhythm i wouldnt advise any messing with it to look better.

soundsham · 31-10-2012 08:52PM

Su Campu wrote: »

Is it really? The title just says "Shane Lowry", nothing in there about an appreciation society. Still, everyone is enjoying his good form, and I have not seen one comment to the contrary. Many just think he could be even better if he slimmed down a bit, as that would improve his stamina. Think of the 36-hole per day competitions. He could find the going tough come the 35th hole when the chips are down.

Anyone who does agree that being overweight instead of in peak physical condition is then one of what you said above.

Ya when the chips are down they're nice with fish

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 09:40PM

kyleman wrote: »

I agree entirely easy to trim down and bulk up , not so easy become a shotmaker .Anyway i have seen shane play a few times and would surprise a lot of you but he is relatively slim and his swing is so full of rhythm i wouldnt advise any messing with it to look better.

relative to what?

trying to say that he isn't overweight is just silly.

kyleman · 31-10-2012 09:46PM

GreeBo wrote: »

relative to what?
trying to say that he isn't overweight is just silly.

Relative to what? now who is being silly!!!

wilfitz · 31-10-2012 09:53PM

Su Campu wrote: »

Is it really? The title just says "Shane Lowry", nothing in there about an appreciation society. Still, everyone is enjoying his good form, and I have not seen one comment to the contrary. Many just think he could be even better if he slimmed down a bit, as that would improve his stamina. Think of the 36-hole per day competitions. He could find the going tough come the 35th hole when the chips are down.

Anyone who does agree that being overweight instead of in peak physical condition is then one of what you said above.

I don't think MANY think he could be better if he slimmed down. Just seems to be the same few/couple that won't let it go. I bet you he wishes he was sitting at home on his couch giving his opinion about some 'fat golfer' from Offaly instead of getting ready to play professional golf in china!!!

h2005 · 31-10-2012 09:55PM

Whats his next event?

ForeRight · 31-10-2012 09:59PM

h2005 wrote: »

Whats his next event?

World Pie eating championship in Alabama next week

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 10:41PM

kyleman wrote: »

Relative to what? now who is being silly!!!

sorry, maybe you can dumb it down to my level. you said he is "relatively slim" please explain who you are comparing him to.

GreeBo · 31-10-2012 10:44PM

ForeRight wrote: »

World Pie eating championship in Alabama next week

easy now

ForeRight · 31-10-2012 10:50PM

GreeBo wrote: »

easy now

Ah I was just lightening the mood gaffer

kyleman · 31-10-2012 11:45PM

GreeBo wrote: »

sorry, maybe you can dumb it down to my level. you said he is "relatively slim" please explain who you are comparing him to.

When i said he is relatively slim your response was "compared to what" which is out of order.

GreeBo · 01-11-2012 01:27AM

kyleman wrote: »

When i said he is relatively slim your response was "compared to what" which is out of order.

Can you please explain in what context you think he is relatively slim?
Relative to other golfers?
- Hardly
Relative to other men his age?
- Again hardly.

Was it just something you said that you cant really backup?

Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

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