Xoro 9000+ no channels

harringtonp · 24-10-2012 02:21PM #1

Hi,

A XORO 9000+ combo arrived yesterday and I have not been able to get saorview. I plugged it into the rooftop aerial and an automatic tune showed nothing. Over analogue I would have got RTE1/2 and TG4 from that aerial (no TV3). I borrowed a friends rabbit ears aerial today and could not tune channels using it (he gets saorview through it).

- Is it likely to be a box problem, the UK free to air channels are all received fine ?

- Or is it a signal strength problem, I do live in west clare ? Is the digital signal a lot weaker than the old analogue signal, particularly in outlying areas ?

- Or possibly something else I haven't though off ? I'm trying to tune as shown in online youtube videos, its pretty straight forward and I cannot imagine how I could be doing this wrong.

Suggestions appreciated.

Paul.

Peter Rhea · 24-10-2012 02:36PM

You were probably receiving analogue from a transmitter that doesn't carry Saorview. What does the coverage map have to say about your location?

Freddy Smelly · 24-10-2012 02:44PM

if u couldnt get TV3 via analogue then your ariel is not good enough to get digital tv

you will need to get a modern indoor amplified ariel or a roof ariel that can pick up saorview

DID/Hardly Norman/Currys sell amplified ariels for saorview

maplins or any satellite equipment supplier have the roof ariels

Peter Rhea · 24-10-2012 02:48PM

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

if u couldnt get TV3 via analogue then your ariel is not good enough to get digital tv

you will need to get a modern amplified ariel or a roof ariel that can pick up saorview

Plenty of the Saorview transmitter sites never broadcast analogue TV3. Some never had any analogue.

OP's aerial may just need to be realigned.

harringtonp · 24-10-2012 04:47PM

Peter Rhea wrote: »

You were probably receiving analogue from a transmitter that doesn't carry Saorview. What does the coverage map have to say about your location?

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harringtonp · 24-10-2012 04:55PM

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

if u couldnt get TV3 via analogue then your ariel is not good enough to get digital tv

you will need to get a modern indoor amplified ariel or a roof ariel that can pick up saorview

DID/Hardly Norman/Currys sell amplified ariels for saorview

maplins or any satellite equipment supplier have the roof ariels

I tried with this:

http://www.ricability-digitaltv.org.uk/pages/products/indoor_aerials/index.asp?Product=Masterplug%20AER3-MP

It is powered but I notice it says

"Verdict Low sensitivity so only suitable for strong signal areas."

With a lower sensitivity aerial is it a case of absolutely nothing ? Being digital, I presume its not like analogue and is all or nothing. So if you get a signal you will get a decent picture ?

Do you think a stronger indoor aerial could work ?

Thanks Paul.

Peter Rhea · 24-10-2012 05:00PM

There was an analogue transmitter in the Lahinch area: this would only have had RTE & TG4. If you have an outdoor aerial, the same one should work for Maghera Saorview (mux 1 anyway).

If it is that transmitter you were using, the aerial will need to be remounted with horizontal polarisation & directed at Maghera.

harringtonp · 24-10-2012 05:04PM

Peter Rhea wrote: »

There was an analogue transmitter in the Lahinch area: this would only have had RTE & TG4. If you have an outdoor aerial, the same one should work for Maghera Saorview (mux 1 anyway).

If it is that transmitter you were using, the aerial will need to be remounted with horizontal polarisation & directed at Maghera.

That may well be the problem, I notice the direction is different to other houses in the area. I will check that the others are pointing at 84 degrees and mine is not.

If this is the problem do you think there would be any joy with any sort of indoor aerial or do I have to reorient the rooftop one ?

Thanks Paul.

harringtonp · 24-10-2012 06:24PM

Peter Rhea wrote: »

There was an analogue transmitter in the Lahinch area: this would only have had RTE & TG4. If you have an outdoor aerial, the same one should work for Maghera Saorview (mux 1 anyway).

If it is that transmitter you were using, the aerial will need to be remounted with horizontal polarisation & directed at Maghera.

Long aerial shown is pointing almost exactly due north, not sure why but others around are in that direction too. I notice some are close to 84.

I gather from what you are saying that if I can realign the long one in photo to 84 I should be sorted ?

Not sure what the other one is (antenna for satellite is elsewhere on house), there seems to be a lot of metal on the roofs around the place !

Peter Rhea · 24-10-2012 09:14PM

The 'long' aerial is for UHF frequencies, vertically polarised, so is likely on the local transmitter (no Saorview). The other type is usually used for MMDS ('wireless cable').

If the UHF aerial is mounted horizontally, it might do the job for Maghera. Only 1 way to find out, I suppose. If the MMDS aerial is not in use, you could drop it down the mast & put the UHF aerial on top. A bit of extra height could be useful.

The Cush · 24-10-2012 10:46PM

harringtonp wrote: »

Long aerial shown is pointing almost exactly due north, not sure why but others around are in that direction too. I notice some are close to 84.

Lehinch local analogue TV transmitter which no longer transmits any TV. The same aerial should work for Maghera with the directors going horizontal instead of vertical. There is a Saorview transmitter in Ennistymon, not sure if it covers your area but a different grouped aerial may be required.

harringtonp · 24-10-2012 11:16PM

Peter Rhea wrote: »

The 'long' aerial is for UHF frequencies, vertically polarised, so is likely on the local transmitter (no Saorview). The other type is usually used for MMDS ('wireless cable').

If the UHF aerial is mounted horizontally, it might do the job for Maghera. Only 1 way to find out, I suppose. If the MMDS aerial is not in use, you could drop it down the mast & put the UHF aerial on top. A bit of extra height could be useful.

Thanks peter, I'll try that, the MMDS aerial is not being used (though I may contact UPC and try and find out why it was installed).

Paul.

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