Dublin Marathon 2012 - 'Improvers' thread

I frickin hate this period of taper. Everything is either sore or tight. Running 3 miles @ 8.00 min pace takes as much effort as 14 miles @ 7.45 did four weeks ago and my legs feel like I've just run 20.

This is normal, right ?

No|Name|Plan|Week|Weekly Sessions|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
1|liamog|HH Inter 1|9|0|0.0 km| 232.1 km | Fully fit again, dying to run on Tuesday
2|Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|16|6|83.17 km|1591.10km|Good start to taper. Got a PB in my last tune-up race - 10km in 42:09. Legs are really sore after race and Monday evening's 17-miler. Still need more sleep!
3|RedRunner|HH Inter 1|16|4|30.36m|404.92m| Tired legs this week so skipped one midweek run but felt benefit of that at weekend.I can almost taste that pint in McGrattans already!
4|Mike D|HH Inter 1|16|4|25m|444.1m|Skipped Saturday run but LSR was good today, raring to go a this stage:)
5|beeduybe|P&D:33-55|16|5|42m|715m|Good 4 mile race and 16 mile run over the weekend. Taper madness not set in yet
6|Lizzy C|P&D -33-55|16|5|43.34m|637.38m|43 miles still feels like a lot for a taper!
7|Skidrow|HH inter1|17|5|24m|498m|I think I hit peak fitness 3 weeks ago, feel like I am going backwards now.:(
8|Younganne|Ecolis plan|16|3|12.25|461.10|:( Bad week for me, seem to have picked up a bit of a hip/back injury. Off to physio tonight to get sorted. |
9|run44|HH inter1||5|27m|62mm|Happy to get 5 in this week
10|D Chief|P&D -55|16|7|86.2km|1088.6km|Pushed LSR out to Monday morning, so this was an 8-day week and I ran on 7 of them. 2 weeks to go and I can't stop thinking about DCM.
11|Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|5|5|28.5m|135.9m|Avg pace this week was 8.03 so am going to make concerted effort to slow down on the longer runs. Seems to be best practice. Am in France next week for 2 weeks and am concerned that due to heat it will be tough to get in runs especially LSRs. Will try early morning runs but am not an early runner!
13|doledude86|HH Inter 2|13|6|40m|386.70m|Havent updated properly in ages, last 20mile done yesterday!! End up doing 3!
14|irfrm|runners world|14|5|31.5 m|497.5 m| Hamstring left leg a start of week, physio gave the all clear to train away, good at start of week but missed out on long run yesterday. 2 weeks to go!!!
15|shels4ever|just run||9|50|50|Just lots of easy runs last week. Head not in the log runs jsut yet but hope to get to grips with them soon.
16|jester1980|HH IINT 1|14|4|65.5km|619|3 weeks to go yayyyyy
17|Van.Bosch|P&D - 55|14|5|52.21M|499M|Good Week, happy enough with progress. Got 17 Miles done @PMP
18|Mr.Wiggle|RunRepublic sub3.30|13|5|94km|837km| Another tough week with tight glute. Pulled up 2 miles short on Sundays 18m LSR. Physio today and back again thursday. Easy does it now till weekend.
19|RedB|Part P&D55 & now coach plan|14|6|70M|647M|Peak Week 2. Rest, Aero, Tempo, Recovery,Intervals, Recovery, 35km Long Run incl 12km PMP, 10km PMP-5%. Happy to make the big sessions as planned. Taper time
20|Trigger26 |Club coach sub 3.30|16|5|39M|544M|Good week, no dramas. Looking forward to wind down and build up!
21|Jim0 |P&D - 55|16|5|67.11km|1120.21km|Nothing unusual to report.
23|Runningking|Run Republic|12|5|53m|656m|Good tough running week. 12m tempo on Wed and 22 on Sat at 8:09ave pace - 7 around PMP - feeling confident

No run since Thursday. Working yest till after midnight,today till 8pm and back in again tomorrow, so missed todays run too. Wrecked tired, having been eating properly all week and to top it all off woke up on Friday with a worrying niggle in Hip Flexor. It intermittently affects me while I'm walking.

8 m LSR planned for tomorrow (if I can fit it in with work) hopefully the niggle is nothing to worry about.

No|Name|Plan|Week|Weekly Sessions|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
1|liamog|HH Inter 1|9|0|0.0 km| 232.1 km | Fully fit again, dying to run on Tuesday
2|Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|16|6|83.17 km|1591.10km|Good start to taper. Got a PB in my last tune-up race - 10km in 42:09. Legs are really sore after race and Monday evening's 17-miler. Still need more sleep!
3|RedRunner|HH Inter 1|16|4|30.36m|404.92m| Tired legs this week so skipped one midweek run but felt benefit of that at weekend.I can almost taste that pint in McGrattans already!
4|Mike D|HH Inter 1|17|4|20m|464.1m|only 4 runs this week but feeling good - swim tomorrow - last one!
5|beeduybe|P&D:33-55|16|5|42m|715m|Good 4 mile race and 16 mile run over the weekend. Taper madness not set in yet
6|Lizzy C|P&D -33-55|16|5|43.34m|637.38m|43 miles still feels like a lot for a taper!
7|Skidrow|HH inter1|17|5|24m|498m|I think I hit peak fitness 3 weeks ago, feel like I am going backwards now.:(
8|Younganne|Ecolis plan|16|3|12.25|461.10|:( Bad week for me, seem to have picked up a bit of a hip/back injury. Off to physio tonight to get sorted. |
9|run44|HH inter1||5|27m|62mm|Happy to get 5 in this week
10|D Chief|P&D -55|16|7|86.2km|1088.6km|Pushed LSR out to Monday morning, so this was an 8-day week and I ran on 7 of them. 2 weeks to go and I can't stop thinking about DCM.
11|Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|5|5|28.5m|135.9m|Avg pace this week was 8.03 so am going to make concerted effort to slow down on the longer runs. Seems to be best practice. Am in France next week for 2 weeks and am concerned that due to heat it will be tough to get in runs especially LSRs. Will try early morning runs but am not an early runner!
13|doledude86|HH Inter 2|13|6|40m|386.70m|Havent updated properly in ages, last 20mile done yesterday!! End up doing 3!
14|irfrm|runners world|14|5|31.5 m|497.5 m| Hamstring left leg a start of week, physio gave the all clear to train away, good at start of week but missed out on long run yesterday. 2 weeks to go!!!
15|shels4ever|just run||9|50|50|Just lots of easy runs last week. Head not in the log runs jsut yet but hope to get to grips with them soon.
16|jester1980|HH IINT 1|14|4|65.5km|619|3 weeks to go yayyyyy
17|Van.Bosch|P&D - 55|14|5|52.21M|499M|Good Week, happy enough with progress. Got 17 Miles done @PMP
18|Mr.Wiggle|RunRepublic sub3.30|13|5|94km|837km| Another tough week with tight glute. Pulled up 2 miles short on Sundays 18m LSR. Physio today and back again thursday. Easy does it now till weekend.
19|RedB|Part P&D55 & now coach plan|14|6|70M|647M|Peak Week 2. Rest, Aero, Tempo, Recovery,Intervals, Recovery, 35km Long Run incl 12km PMP, 10km PMP-5%. Happy to make the big sessions as planned. Taper time
20|Trigger26 |Club coach sub 3.30|16|5|39M|544M|Good week, no dramas. Looking forward to wind down and build up!
21|Jim0 |P&D - 55|16|5|67.11km|1120.21km|Nothing unusual to report.
23|Runningking|Run Republic|12|5|53m|656m|Good tough running week. 12m tempo on Wed and 22 on Sat at 8:09ave pace - 7 around PMP - feeling confident

No|Name|Plan|Week|Weekly Sessions|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
1|liamog|HH Inter 1|9|0|0.0 km| 232.1 km | Fully fit again, dying to run on Tuesday
2|Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|16|6|83.17 km|1591.10km|Good start to taper. Got a PB in my last tune-up race - 10km in 42:09. Legs are really sore after race and Monday evening's 17-miler. Still need more sleep!
3|RedRunner|HH Inter 1|16|4|30.36m|404.92m| Tired legs this week so skipped one midweek run but felt benefit of that at weekend.I can almost taste that pint in McGrattans already!
4|Mike D|HH Inter 1|17|4|20m|464.1m|only 4 runs this week but feeling good - swim tomorrow - last one!
5|beeduybe|P&D:33-55|16|5|42m|715m|Good 4 mile race and 16 mile run over the weekend. Taper madness not set in yet
6|Lizzy C|P&D -33-55|16|5|43.34m|637.38m|43 miles still feels like a lot for a taper!
7|Skidrow|HH inter1|17|5|24m|498m|I think I hit peak fitness 3 weeks ago, feel like I am going backwards now.:(
8|Younganne|Ecolis plan|16|3|12.25|461.10|:( Bad week for me, seem to have picked up a bit of a hip/back injury. Off to physio tonight to get sorted. |
9|run44|HH inter1||5|27m|62mm|Happy to get 5 in this week
10|D Chief|P&D -55|16|7|86.2km|1088.6km|Pushed LSR out to Monday morning, so this was an 8-day week and I ran on 7 of them. 2 weeks to go and I can't stop thinking about DCM.
11|Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|5|5|28.5m|135.9m|Avg pace this week was 8.03 so am going to make concerted effort to slow down on the longer runs. Seems to be best practice. Am in France next week for 2 weeks and am concerned that due to heat it will be tough to get in runs especially LSRs. Will try early morning runs but am not an early runner!
13|doledude86|HH Inter 2|13|6|40m|386.70m|Havent updated properly in ages, last 20mile done yesterday!! End up doing 3!
14|irfrm|runners world|14|5|31.5 m|497.5 m| Hamstring left leg a start of week, physio gave the all clear to train away, good at start of week but missed out on long run yesterday. 2 weeks to go!!!
15|shels4ever|just run||9|50|50|Just lots of easy runs last week. Head not in the log runs jsut yet but hope to get to grips with them soon.
16|jester1980|HH IINT 1|14|4|65.5km|619|3 weeks to go yayyyyy
17|Van.Bosch|P&D - 55|14|5|52.21M|499M|Good Week, happy enough with progress. Got 17 Miles done @PMP
18|Mr.Wiggle|RunRepublic sub3.30|13|5|94km|837km| Another tough week with tight glute. Pulled up 2 miles short on Sundays 18m LSR. Physio today and back again thursday. Easy does it now till weekend.
19|RedB|Part P&D55 & now coach plan|14|6|70M|647M|Peak Week 2. Rest, Aero, Tempo, Recovery,Intervals, Recovery, 35km Long Run incl 12km PMP, 10km PMP-5%. Happy to make the big sessions as planned. Taper time
20|Trigger26 |Club coach sub 3.30|17|5|28M|572M|8mile LSR today, feeling a bit lethargic,thankful to be fit at this stage
21|Jim0 |P&D - 55|16|5|67.11km|1120.21km|Nothing unusual to report.
23|Runningking|Run Republic|12|5|53m|656m|Good tough running week. 12m tempo on Wed and 22 on Sat at 8:09ave pace - 7 around PMP - feeling confident

9 miles @PMP tonight. Eventually got out at 9pm! Its been a tough week at work and visit to docs so glad to get this run in.

Time to focus on eating well, hydrating, getting plenty of rest, lots of foam rolling and stretching next week.

Didn't get my 12 Mile LSR done yesterday as per the P&D < 55 plan. As this plan is based on a Sunday marathon, doing it tonight which is still 7 days before DCM should be alright shouldn't it?

nerraw1111 wrote: »

Not asking for medical advice.

I've the same issue. I've been recommended to do quad stretches, hip flexing, core and bridge exercises. I'll be seeing them next week.

What are you doing to resolve the issue? Is seeing the physio have any effect or just stretching and rest?

Soo..just like Runningking, the physio worked on my stiff lower back and on that pesky glute. She recommended that I stretch and apply heat to the sore area. Had a nice couple of radox baths ( brought me back to my childhood really, all i needed was a few shampoo bottle tops to play with !:pac:).
So after two sessions and a few baths the glute is much, much better.
Did a final 20km LSR yesterday and didnt feel it tighten up.
Last session this morning with the physio and I should be ready to go!!

Hope you are not too bad , if you are worried you should really book a physio session ASAP !!

Mr.W~

No|Name|Plan|Week|Weekly Sessions|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
1|liamog|HH Inter 1|9|0|0.0 km| 232.1 km | Fully fit again, dying to run on Tuesday
2|Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|16|6|83.17 km|1591.10km|Good start to taper. Got a PB in my last tune-up race - 10km in 42:09. Legs are really sore after race and Monday evening's 17-miler. Still need more sleep!
3|RedRunner|HH Inter 1|17|3|18.36m|423.28m| Only 3 runs but happy that I'm injury free at this stage in the game.Looking fwd to big day now.
4|Mike D|HH Inter 1|17|4|20m|464.1m|only 4 runs this week but feeling good - swim tomorrow - last one!
5|beeduybe|P&D:33-55|16|5|42m|715m|Good 4 mile race and 16 mile run over the weekend. Taper madness not set in yet
6|Lizzy C|P&D -33-55|16|5|43.34m|637.38m|43 miles still feels like a lot for a taper!
7|Skidrow|HH inter1|17|5|24m|498m|I think I hit peak fitness 3 weeks ago, feel like I am going backwards now.:(
8|Younganne|Ecolis plan|16|3|12.25|461.10|:( Bad week for me, seem to have picked up a bit of a hip/back injury. Off to physio tonight to get sorted. |
9|run44|HH inter1||5|27m|62mm|Happy to get 5 in this week
10|D Chief|P&D -55|16|7|86.2km|1088.6km|Pushed LSR out to Monday morning, so this was an 8-day week and I ran on 7 of them. 2 weeks to go and I can't stop thinking about DCM.
11|Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|5|5|28.5m|135.9m|Avg pace this week was 8.03 so am going to make concerted effort to slow down on the longer runs. Seems to be best practice. Am in France next week for 2 weeks and am concerned that due to heat it will be tough to get in runs especially LSRs. Will try early morning runs but am not an early runner!
13|doledude86|HH Inter 2|13|6|40m|386.70m|Havent updated properly in ages, last 20mile done yesterday!! End up doing 3!
14|irfrm|runners world|15|4|26m|523.5 m| lowest weekly mileage in a long time, missing 2 runs, meet up with other club members yesterday 2 out with injury. nice and genlte run this week. THINK I'm READY
15|shels4ever|just run||9|50|50|Just lots of easy runs last week. Head not in the log runs jsut yet but hope to get to grips with them soon.
16|jester1980|HH IINT 1|14|4|65.5km|619|3 weeks to go yayyyyy
17|Van.Bosch|P&D - 55|14|5|52.21M|499M|Good Week, happy enough with progress. Got 17 Miles done @PMP
18|Mr.Wiggle|RunRepublic sub3.30|14|4|48km|885km| Managed a few 5 milers and a 12 mile LSR after physio. Feeling fine but will worry myself silly till the race !
19|RedB|Part P&D55 & now coach plan|14|6|70M|647M|Peak Week 2. Rest, Aero, Tempo, Recovery,Intervals, Recovery, 35km Long Run incl 12km PMP, 10km PMP-5%. Happy to make the big sessions as planned. Taper time
20|Trigger26 |Club coach sub 3.30|17|5|28M|572M|8mile LSR today, feeling a bit lethargic,thankful to be fit at this stage
21|Jim0 |P&D - 55|17|4|53.68km|1,173.89km|Nothing unusual to report.
23|Runningking|Run Republic|14|5|32m|698m|Injured 2 weeks ago, 32miles last week - no high intensity or intervals, mostly easy runs.

No|Name|Plan|Week|Weekly Sessions|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
1|liamog|HH Inter 1|9|0|0.0 km| 232.1 km | Fully fit again, dying to run on Tuesday
2|Micilí­n Muc|P&D:55-70|17|4|51km|1641.10km|My head got really congested. I missed my first two sessions of this whole plan but crossed 1000 miles for the 17 weeks Finding it hard to concentrate on the marathon now - have signed up for the Art O'Neill Challenge so I'm really excited about that!
3|RedRunner|HH Inter 1|17|3|18.36m|423.28m| Only 3 runs but happy that I'm injury free at this stage in the game.Looking fwd to big day now.
4|Mike D|HH Inter 1|17|4|20m|464.1m|only 4 runs this week but feeling good - swim tomorrow - last one!
5|beeduybe|P&D:33-55|16|5|42m|715m|Good 4 mile race and 16 mile run over the weekend. Taper madness not set in yet
6|Lizzy C|P&D -33-55|16|5|43.34m|637.38m|43 miles still feels like a lot for a taper!
7|Skidrow|HH inter1|17|5|24m|498m|I think I hit peak fitness 3 weeks ago, feel like I am going backwards now.:(
8|Younganne|Ecolis plan|17|4|32.47|493.57|Physio sorted me last week with dryneedling session, gioing again tonight for final rub down. total mileage for the year so far is 975.44 so willhit the 1000m makr during the marathon!!:D |
9|run44|HH inter1||5|27m|62mm|Happy to get 5 in this week
10|D Chief|P&D -55|16|7|86.2km|1088.6km|Pushed LSR out to Monday morning, so this was an 8-day week and I ran on 7 of them. 2 weeks to go and I can't stop thinking about DCM.
11|Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|5|5|28.5m|135.9m|Avg pace this week was 8.03 so am going to make concerted effort to slow down on the longer runs. Seems to be best practice. Am in France next week for 2 weeks and am concerned that due to heat it will be tough to get in runs especially LSRs. Will try early morning runs but am not an early runner!
13|doledude86|HH Inter 2|13|6|40m|386.70m|Havent updated properly in ages, last 20mile done yesterday!! End up doing 3!
14|irfrm|runners world|15|4|26m|523.5 m| lowest weekly mileage in a long time, missing 2 runs, meet up with other club members yesterday 2 out with injury. nice and genlte run this week. THINK I'm READY
15|shels4ever|just run||9|50|50|Just lots of easy runs last week. Head not in the log runs jsut yet but hope to get to grips with them soon.
16|jester1980|HH IINT 1|14|4|65.5km|619|3 weeks to go yayyyyy
17|Van.Bosch|P&D - 55|14|5|52.21M|499M|Good Week, happy enough with progress. Got 17 Miles done @PMP
18|Mr.Wiggle|RunRepublic sub3.30|14|4|48km|885km| Managed a few 5 milers and a 12 mile LSR after physio. Feeling fine but will worry myself silly till the race !
19|RedB|Part P&D55 & now coach plan|14|6|70M|647M|Peak Week 2. Rest, Aero, Tempo, Recovery,Intervals, Recovery, 35km Long Run incl 12km PMP, 10km PMP-5%. Happy to make the big sessions as planned. Taper time
20|Trigger26 |Club coach sub 3.30|17|5|28M|572M|8mile LSR today, feeling a bit lethargic,thankful to be fit at this stage
21|Jim0 |P&D - 55|17|4|53.68km|1,173.89km|Nothing unusual to report.
23|Runningking|Run Republic|14|5|32m|698m|Injured 2 weeks ago, 32miles last week - no high intensity or intervals, mostly easy runs.

My head got really congested. I missed my first two sessions of this whole plan but crossed 1000 miles for the 17 weeks Finding it hard to concentrate on the marathon now - have signed up for the Art O'Neill Challenge so I'm really excited about that!

Congratulations to everyone who has made it this far - making it to the start line is a feat in itself!

can i change waves in the dcm as am entered into wrong wave. registered in last waves but should be runnin in the wave 1sub 3.15 time as hoping to break 3.05. my fiancee entered me as a present and didnt realise about the waves. is it hard to jump into first wave and are they strict about it. be really upset if i couldnt. please can any1 fill me in

No|Name|Plan|Week|Weekly Sessions|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
1|liamog|HH Inter 1|9|0|0.0 km| 232.1 km | Fully fit again, dying to run on Tuesday
2|Micilí­n Muc|P&D:55-70|17|4|51km|1641.10km|My head got really congested. I missed my first two sessions of this whole plan but crossed 1000 miles for the 17 weeks Finding it hard to concentrate on the marathon now - have signed up for the Art O'Neill Challenge so I'm really excited about that!
3|RedRunner|HH Inter 1|17|3|18.36m|423.28m| Only 3 runs but happy that I'm injury free at this stage in the game.Looking fwd to big day now.
4|Mike D|HH Inter 1|17|4|20m|464.1m|only 4 runs this week but feeling good - swim tomorrow - last one!
5|beeduybe|P&D:33-55|16|5|42m|715m|Good 4 mile race and 16 mile run over the weekend. Taper madness not set in yet
6|Lizzy C|P&D -33-55|16|5|43.34m|637.38m|43 miles still feels like a lot for a taper!
7|Skidrow|HH inter1|17|5|24m|498m|I think I hit peak fitness 3 weeks ago, feel like I am going backwards now.:(
8|Younganne|Ecolis plan|17|4|32.47|493.57|Physio sorted me last week with dryneedling session, gioing again tonight for final rub down. total mileage for the year so far is 975.44 so willhit the 1000m makr during the marathon!!:D |
9|run44|HH inter1||5|27m|62mm|Happy to get 5 in this week
10|D Chief|P&D -55|17|3|39.7km|1128.3km|Right knee very stiff and sore after 19km LSR on Sunday. A bit worried that I won't make the start line
11|Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|5|5|28.5m|135.9m|Avg pace this week was 8.03 so am going to make concerted effort to slow down on the longer runs. Seems to be best practice. Am in France next week for 2 weeks and am concerned that due to heat it will be tough to get in runs especially LSRs. Will try early morning runs but am not an early runner!
13|doledude86|HH Inter 2|13|6|40m|386.70m|Havent updated properly in ages, last 20mile done yesterday!! End up doing 3!
14|irfrm|runners world|15|4|26m|523.5 m| lowest weekly mileage in a long time, missing 2 runs, meet up with other club members yesterday 2 out with injury. nice and genlte run this week. THINK I'm READY
15|shels4ever|just run||9|50|50|Just lots of easy runs last week. Head not in the log runs jsut yet but hope to get to grips with them soon.
16|jester1980|HH IINT 1|14|4|65.5km|619|3 weeks to go yayyyyy
17|Van.Bosch|P&D - 55|14|5|52.21M|499M|Good Week, happy enough with progress. Got 17 Miles done @PMP
18|Mr.Wiggle|RunRepublic sub3.30|14|4|48km|885km| Managed a few 5 milers and a 12 mile LSR after physio. Feeling fine but will worry myself silly till the race !
19|RedB|Part P&D55 & now coach plan|14|6|70M|647M|Peak Week 2. Rest, Aero, Tempo, Recovery,Intervals, Recovery, 35km Long Run incl 12km PMP, 10km PMP-5%. Happy to make the big sessions as planned. Taper time
20|Trigger26 |Club coach sub 3.30|17|5|28M|572M|8mile LSR today, feeling a bit lethargic,thankful to be fit at this stage
21|Jim0 |P&D - 55|17|4|53.68km|1,173.89km|Nothing unusual to report.
23|Runningking|Run Republic|14|5|32m|698m|Injured 2 weeks ago, 32miles last week - no high intensity or intervals, mostly easy runs.

Right knee very stiff and sore after 19km LSR on Sunday. A bit worried that I won't make the start line . I might take another day or 2 rest and see how it goes. I did have a similar flare up with my right knee 2 weeks after DCM 2010. I rested a week, it improved a bit and I ran a tester 3 miles and had no problem.