The Bible, Creationism, and Prophecy (part 2)

systemsready wrote: »

Jesus spoke in parables for a reason. Its a good way of getting the message across.

Think. "1 billion horseflies can't be wrong" with a pile of sh*t?

Look, the bible says that pork is forbidden because it is unclean. And it says lots of other things are unclean too. Fair enough.
Atheists ask the question, why you only not eat pork..why do you not observe all the other forbidden things?
This is the same as telling someone , for example that sometimes shoplifts " Why did you pay for the new coat you bought? I thought you were a shoplifter?
And the answer was, I only pilfer small things, things that seem to me to carry not much consequence..but to steal that expensive coat in a very secure shop would have been too risky.
And anyway...a shoplifter pays sometimes..why?

systemsready wrote: »

If I eat meat I eat a bit of lamb or beef. (grass eating animals, not carrion eating animals)

So you like a bit of lamb, eh!!...just imagine those lovely grass eating sheep and lambs, grazing away in their nice field...roast lamb, yum yum..........but, look a little closer...what's that their doing?..oh no..they'r producing excrement (sh*t in your parlance)...and it's dropping onto the lovely grass...now they are stomping on it with their tiny feet, working it into the ground, coating the grass with it....oh no, worse still...they're EATING the grass with the Sh*T on it!!!! Now, will YOU stop eating lamb since they unavoidablr eat their own crap????

Some Info...

A market lamb weighing about 100 lbs produces 4 lbs of manure daily, the equivalent of about 0.06 cubic feet per day.

Manure as a Fertilizer (ie, Sh*t)
Manure contains valuable nutrients, like nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), and potassium (K). In addition to the three major elements, manure also contains essential micro-nutrients (boron, calcium, copper, iron, magnesium, manganese, molybednum, sulfer, and zinc. Manure nutrients come from the feed that the animals have eaten.

Nutrients
Anywhere from 75 to 90 percent of the plant nutrients fed to animals are excreted in their manure, so it should be no surprise that the stuff is an excellent fertilizer. The level of protein and inorganic salts in feed (sodium, calcium, potassium, magnesium, phosphate, and chloride) will be reflected in the characteristics of the manure. The amount of nutrients depends on the type of animal and the way the manure is handled. Manure than contains a lot of bedding will contain fewer nutrients than pure manure.
The nutrients in manure are a mixture of inorganic and organic forms. The inorganic forms are similar to those in commercial fertilizer. They dissolve in water and plants can use them right away. The organic forms come from the remains of plant tissue, cells, and bacteria that are in the manure. They are slow-release nutrients that the plants cannot use right way. They become available to the plants as the manure decays.

The organic matter in manure is also valuable because it makes soil easier to manage, less likely to erode, and more likely to absorb water. Regular manure (sh*t) application lowers soil pH. The acidifying effect of manure is less than that of inorganic fertilizers.

Still want to eat lamb??

Pigs only eat sh1t if they have nothing else to eat, its not their preference. If Jesus had landed in Ireland bet that list of forbidden animals would be very different, you would prob find piggy wouldnt have made the cut !

Monty Burnz wrote: »

You did not answer that. You think that the dietary laws are just a list of animals not to be eaten. This is a completely ignorant view of Jewish dietary laws.

And what's your view?

maguffin wrote: »

So you like a bit of lamb, eh!!...just imagine those lovely grass eating sheep and lambs, grazing away in their nice field...roast lamb, yum yum..........but, look a little closer...what's that their doing?..oh no..they'r producing excrement (sh*t in your parlance)...and it's dropping onto the lovely grass...now they are stomping on it with their tiny feet, working it into the ground, coating the grass with it....oh no, worse still...they're EATING the grass with the Sh*T on it!!!! Now, will YOU stop eating lamb since they unavoidablr eat their own crap????

Some Info...

A market lamb weighing about 100 lbs produces 4 lbs of manure daily, the equivalent of about 0.06 cubic feet per day.

Manure as a Fertilizer (ie, Sh*t)
Manure contains valuable nutrients, like nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), and potassium (K). In addition to the three major elements, manure also contains essential micro-nutrients (boron, calcium, copper, iron, magnesium, manganese, molybednum, sulfer, and zinc. Manure nutrients come from the feed that the animals have eaten.

Nutrients
Anywhere from 75 to 90 percent of the plant nutrients fed to animals are excreted in their manure, so it should be no surprise that the stuff is an excellent fertilizer. The level of protein and inorganic salts in feed (sodium, calcium, potassium, magnesium, phosphate, and chloride) will be reflected in the characteristics of the manure. The amount of nutrients depends on the type of animal and the way the manure is handled. Manure than contains a lot of bedding will contain fewer nutrients than pure manure.
The nutrients in manure are a mixture of inorganic and organic forms. The inorganic forms are similar to those in commercial fertilizer. They dissolve in water and plants can use them right away. The organic forms come from the remains of plant tissue, cells, and bacteria that are in the manure. They are slow-release nutrients that the plants cannot use right way. They become available to the plants as the manure decays.

The organic matter in manure is also valuable because it makes soil easier to manage, less likely to erode, and more likely to absorb water. Regular manure (sh*t) application lowers soil pH. The acidifying effect of manure is less than that of inorganic fertilizers.

Still want to eat lamb??

You dont know sh... Literally! How can dog sh*t and lamb sh*t be equally dirty. If you consider dog sh*t and lamb sh*t equally dirty then you have no clue what is dirt and what is not dirt.
I bet you never had your hands in clay!


I would gladly have a lamb sh*t sandwich rather than a ham sandwich..Now you could never understand that..because you are detached from nature.

systemsready wrote: »

You dont know sh... Literally! How can dog sh*t and lamb sh*t be equally dirty. If you consider dog sh*t and lamb sh*t equally dirty then you have no clue what is dirt and what is not dirt.
I bet you never had your hands in clay!


I would gladly have a lamb sh*t sandwich rather than a ham sandwich..Now you could never understand that..because you are detached from nature.

This two posts right here

I mean........seriously

WTF

systemsready wrote: »

You lads must have never been on a farm...this is what happens when you become detached from nature.

You are arguing over which **** you prefer and

You have to eat **** sandwiches, when you have perfectly good ham in your fridge?

If thats life down on the farm , I think Im grand where I am

When people say that Physics brought EVERYTHING into existence...do they mean that Physics brought itself into existence?

systemsready wrote: »

When people say that Physics brought EVERYTHING into existence...do they mean that Physics brought itself into existence?

Truth is physics as we know it came with stuff rather than caused stuff. Physics probably caused stuff but it wouldn't be the same physics as we have now.
Physics is just how stuff works, it's not a force or thing, it just a description of properties and how they interact.

This whole first cause thing is pointless, it doesn't prove God or disprove Him, it offers nothing to the debate. 'Turtles all the way down'

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I do know what they are.

You think that the laws only define a list of animals you should not eat.

This is not true, there is much more to it.

You are extremely ignorant about a subject you are insisting on lecturing us on.

HTH.

:rolleyes: