Charlie and his wandering hands......

token101 · 14-10-2012 08:35PM #1

According to Anne Robinson, the presenter for 'The Weakest Link', she was the victim of an attempted groping in the late 60s by none other than Charlie Haughey :pac: Full article here.

WEAKEST LINK HOST Anne Robinson has said that former Taoiseach Charles J Haughey tried to grope her in 1969.
In an interview with The Guardian on the issue of sexual harassment in the TV industry, Robinson has discussed her past experiences along with her daughter Emma Wilson.
Robinson said that when she got her first job in the Daily Mail the term ‘sexual harassment’ didn’t exist. She recalled one particular incident when she was 25:
Looking back, we used to keep lists of men who weren’t safe in taxis, “NST”, and those who were “NSL”, not safe in lifts, they were a bit quicker with their hands than NSTs.
I think my best experience was with Charlie Haughey, who was then Ireland’s Minister of Justice*. I like to imagine he went to his grave with my bruises on his hands after he tried to grope me during the 1969 Irish elections.

Is this going to take a Jimmy Saville twist and will we have legions of women coming out complaining that Charlie had a go at them too??

Wacker The Attacker · 14-10-2012 08:35PM

Could he not have grabbed a better looking arse

14-10-2012 08:37PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Could he not have grabbed a better looking arse

There's no need to talk about Ann Robinson like that :mad:

Shinaynay · 14-10-2012 08:37PM

Cant really compare the two. She was twice the age of the kids Saville was fiddling

FloatingVoter · 14-10-2012 08:37PM

He was ugly - she was probably drunk. He dropped the hand. She whacked him one. Typical Irish romance. Them were the days.

Wacker The Attacker · 14-10-2012 08:37PM

token101 wrote: »

According to Anne Robinson, the presenter for 'The Weakest Link', she was the victim of an attempted groping in the late 60s by none other than Charlie Haughey :pac: Full article here.

Is this going to take a Jimmy Saville twist and will we have legions of women coming out complaining that Charlie had a go at them too??

He got us the bus pass though

mfceiling · 14-10-2012 08:38PM

We all need to tighten our belts

*haughey unbuttons his belt*

RoundyMooney · 14-10-2012 08:39PM

token101 wrote: »

According to Anne Robinson, the presenter for 'The Weakest Link', she was the victim of an attempted groping in the late 60s by none other than Charlie Haughey :pac: Full article here.

Is this going to take a Jimmy Saville twist and will we have legions of women coming out complaining that Charlie had a go at them too??

Well, that was his "thing".

Firstly, it was tacitly accepted at the time, and secondly, like Bertie after him, the man displayed glaring sociopathic tendencies.

Put simply, he just didn't care about those around him. Someone posted earlier today, a comment along the lines that if he were around today, and hadn't been bought off by the financial sector, then he would gleefully have stood by and let the banks collapse.

So, he may not have been all bad, then

Wacker The Attacker · 14-10-2012 08:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need to talk about Ann Robinson like that :mad:

I could understand if he had tried to grab Raquel Welch' arse.

Anne Robinson isnt Raquel Welch

Wacker The Attacker · 14-10-2012 08:40PM

Shinaynay wrote: »

Cant really compare the two. She was twice the age of the kids Saville was fiddling

and 25 is legal

token101 · 14-10-2012 08:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need to talk about Ann Robinson like that :mad:

Ah there is. She's a ****ing gowl.

the keen edge · 14-10-2012 08:41PM

mfceiling wrote: »

We all need to tighten our belts

*haughey unbuttons his belt*

Buttons on a belt, fancy that.

Poor Uncle Tom · 14-10-2012 08:41PM

It's a bit late whinging about it when their flesh is melting off their bones, tbh.

RoundyMooney · 14-10-2012 08:43PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I could understand if he had tried to grab Raquel Welch' arse.

Anne Robinson isnt Raquel Welch

Neither was Terry Keane.

FanadMan · 14-10-2012 08:44PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I could understand if he had tried to grab Raquel Welch' arse.

Anne Robinson isnt Raquel Welch

I dunno.......there's something about Anne Robinson that, well....ye know

RoundyMooney · 14-10-2012 08:45PM

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

It's a bit late whinging about it when their flesh is melting off their bones, tbh.

Justice delayed is justice denied.

I'm amazed at what's come out about Savile in the last few weeks, and I always thought the guy was a sinister cretin.

Pride Fighter · 14-10-2012 08:46PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

and 25 is legal

Attempting to grope a woman, which is sexual harassment, at any age is not legal.

token101 · 14-10-2012 08:47PM

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

It's a bit late whinging about it when their flesh is melting off their bones, tbh.

Ah yeah but sure might as well jump on the bandwagon as it's in town.

Poor Uncle Tom · 14-10-2012 08:48PM

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Justice delayed is justice denied.

I'm amazed at what's come out about Savile in the last few weeks, and I always thought the guy was a sinister cretin.

I listened to his last interview today where he was asked about the roumers. Denied it right to the last, made out the world and his son was out to get him, that they were just all begrudges. Chilling to listen to.

KINGVictor · 14-10-2012 08:49PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Could he not have grabbed a better looking arse

My own take is he shouldn't be grabbing any arse unless that of his wife as he was married at the time and these days he would probably need permission to do that in public.

Dangerous Man · 14-10-2012 08:50PM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Attempting to grope a woman, which is sexual harassment, at any age is not legal.

I'm sure she's left scarred for life because someone grabbed her arse. Get her into counselling before she tops herself...

FloatingVoter · 14-10-2012 08:55PM

KINGVictor wrote: »

My own take is he shouldn't be grabbing any arse unless that of his wife as he was married at the time and these days he would probably need permission to do that in public.

Charlie grabbed plenty of arses and his daddy-in-law Sean Lemass was well aware of and angered by it. His time on the chicken basket circuit wasn't entirely cold and lonely.
To the OP, Anne Robinson was highlighting in The Guardian the culture of the time and what could be expected and what wasn't tolerated. Child abuse was never on the menu even in 1969. I hate Haughey for his thieving and corruption but he doesn't belong in the same category as a vile prick like Savile.

Millicent · 14-10-2012 08:56PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

I'm sure she's left scarred for life because someone grabbed her arse. Get her into counselling before she tops herself...

Ah yeah, sure it's alright then that a government minister thought it appropriate to grab a journalist's arse. She should just get over herself and be delighted that someone wanted to grab her arse with the head on her, eh?

Knucklecracker · 14-10-2012 08:58PM

No comparison between the two.

Savile raped children.

Haughey raped a country.

Fuinseog · 14-10-2012 08:59PM

mfceiling wrote: »

We all need to tighten our belts

*haughey unbuttons his belt*

he also unbutton his fly when terry keane was around

token101 · 14-10-2012 09:00PM

Millicent wrote: »

Ah yeah, sure it's alright then that a government minister thought it appropriate to grab a journalist's arse. She should just get over herself and be delighted that someone wanted to grab her arse with the head on her, eh?

Assuming this isn't bull****, she didn't bring this up when he was alive because........

midlandsmissus · 14-10-2012 09:07PM

Every woman I know, EVERY woman has some story about being upset about being groped, molested, attacked whatever.

We are living in a society where this is tolerated and very few get charged and there is a terrible terrible justice system in place.

Can people not see that? I am sick of living in world of hearing so many stories about women being violated.:mad:

Things need to change. Badly. Women need to get angry about his. Very.

token101 · 14-10-2012 09:13PM

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Every woman I know, EVERY woman has some story about being upset about being groped, molested, attacked whatever.

We are living in a society where this is tolerated and very few get charged and there is a terrible terrible justice system in place.

Can people not see that? I am sick of living in world of hearing so many stories about women being violated.:mad:

Things need to change. Badly. Women need to get angry about his. Very.

Well, he's dead so charging him would be difficult.

midlandsmissus · 14-10-2012 09:13PM

token101 wrote: »

Assuming this isn't bull****, she didn't bring this up when he was alive because........

People are scared to report. Im putting myself in her shoes, she would be thinking God he's a man in power, if I say this it will have huge consequences, people will debate whether I'm lying or not. And then they think its best not to say anything and try to move on.

This is why its people in power who abuse people who are not (she was a young journalist at the time), because they know the person will be too afraid to speak up and they can get away with it.

Jimmy Saville should be ****ing ashamed of himself. But just as much should the ****ers around him who enabled him, he kept doing it because they told him it was ok.

Esther Rantzen - head of childline - how laughable 'I heard rumours about Jimmy but I brushed it under the carpet'. Everybody to do with the whole sordid affair should be ashamed of themselves.

The world should be ashamed of itself. It happened in Ireland too.

We need to change. We cant go on with this ammount of suffering We should get a petition going for better laws, better services, do SOMETHING. It's only when people get off their asses and get together to mke change will it ever happen.

token101 · 14-10-2012 09:20PM

midlandsmissus wrote: »

People are scared to report. Im putting myself in her shoes, she would be thinking God he's a man in power, if I say this it will have huge consequences, people will debate whether I'm lying or not. And then they think its best not to say anything and try to move on.

This is why its people in power who abuse people who are not (she was a young journalist at the time), because they know the person will be too afraid to speak up and they can get away with it.

Jimmy Saville should be ****ing ashamed of himself. But just as much should the ****ers around him who enabled him, he kept doing it because they told him it was ok.

Esther Rantzen - head of childline - how laughable 'I heard rumours about Jimmy but I brushed it under the carpet'. Everybody to do with the whole sordid affair should be ashamed of themselves.

The world should be ashamed of itself. It happened in Ireland too.

We need to change. We cant go on with this ammount of suffering We should get a petition going for better laws, better services, do SOMETHING. It's only when people get off their asses and get together to mke change will it ever happen.

Hyperbolic nonsense really. Again, it'd be difficult for Jimmy to be ashamed as he's dead. The world should be ashamed because Anne Robinson was possibly groped by a guy who can't defend himself? Get a grip FFS. There's laws governing sexual harrassment, most decent people know it's wrong and there's plenty of services for victims.

midlandsmissus · 14-10-2012 09:58PM

token101 wrote: »

Hyperbolic nonsense really. Again, it'd be difficult for Jimmy to be ashamed as he's dead. The world should be ashamed because Anne Robinson was possibly groped by a guy who can't defend himself? Get a grip FFS. There's laws governing sexual harrassment, most decent people know it's wrong and there's plenty of services for victims.

Decent services, I could really laugh a cynical laugh at that.

Yes we should be ashamed that we are living in a time where nothing is being done to change the way things are. So many stories coming out into the public. It's not only people at the top that can make a change, it's when society gets together and says I'm not happy with the way something currently is and they start campaigning, that things do change.

The justice system is a farce. So few report because they will be victim blamed. Only a couple of cases ever make it to court, where I think it is a percentage of less than 5% ever get convicted.

Charlie and his wandering hands......

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