Is this the first group of Irish players to not care about playing for Ireland?

MrMatisse · 12-10-2012 09:28PM #1

After getting our arses handed to us by Germany, and after a display like that and the Euros it just looks like this lot dont care.

For 15 years we have had teams full of Journeymen, Matt Holland, Lee Carsley, Clinton Morrison but the players always tried you couldnt question their commitment.

Gibson cant be bothered to show up, and the team just cant be arsed on the pitch.

A total joke of a team. They should be ashamed of themselves.

djPSB · 12-10-2012 09:31PM

Probably because there's so many English players on the team. :P

Mr.Nice Guy · 12-10-2012 09:49PM

The team played well for most of the first half. This is going to be forgotten about in all the Trap out hysteria.

Their heads dropped when they realised their opponents were on a different level.

I wouldn't criticise their commitment.

MrMatisse · 12-10-2012 09:56PM

No excuse for that level of effort from professionals

Leiva · 12-10-2012 09:58PM

First letter F. Second letter O.

MrMatisse · 12-10-2012 09:59PM

?

blueser · 12-10-2012 10:02PM

Leiva wrote: »

First letter F. Second letter O.

Football?
Fork?
Forensics?
Focus?
Food?
Foal?

dreamers75 · 12-10-2012 10:02PM

Irish fans realising our level.......finally.......

Diabhal Beag · 12-10-2012 10:04PM

If I was in the position of Shane Long I'd be gone from the set-up long ago TBH. These players do care. They show that when the comment on their exclusion from Trap's set 11. They can do nothing to get into this stubborn old man's "faves". This was all jinxed when Trap was given a new contract before he even had the chance to earn it (he hasn't).

daingeanrob · 12-10-2012 10:05PM

we really don't have the players. we were really bad tonight though, but we don't have the players to change it

MrMatisse · 12-10-2012 10:08PM

No excuse for not doing the basics right

BetterCallSaul · 12-10-2012 10:52PM

In general, I think the majority of them do care, unfortunately, the majority of them are just not international quality players.

They tried in the first half and were just outclassed. Not surprising when it's champions league vs championship.

In the 2nd half they gave up when the 3rd went in, which is inexcusable at any level of football, but I don't think that's an overall reflection of their attitude.

TaosHum · 12-10-2012 11:10PM

TBF, the things that Trap originally brought to this team are not there anymore. The Irish teams I seen play in Paris and Bari were committed, organised and disciplined. Ireland were very difficult to break down, even against superior opposition. Any team that has those 3 characteristics will be difficult to beat.

For whatever reason, Trap hasn't been able to get these characteristics out of Irish players since the European Championships. Why that is is up for debate, but that team that took the field tonight may have been committed at 0-0, but collapsed after going 1 down.

Imhof Tank · 12-10-2012 11:29PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

The team played well for most of the first half. This is going to be forgotten about in all the Trap out hysteria.

Their heads dropped when they realised their opponents were on a different level.

I wouldn't criticise their commitment.

Thats right - on a different level in every department - including commitment

Dont make excuses. O'Shea didnt in his post match interview

LETS BE AVN IT · 12-10-2012 11:29PM

You can tell from O'Shea comments at end of game they do care but we are set up so negative , we are really not allowed play ball by trap

Imhof Tank · 12-10-2012 11:30PM

MrMatisse wrote: »

Gibson cant be bothered to show up.

Would you blame him really?

Paul Green?

Pride Fighter · 12-10-2012 11:31PM

daingeanrob wrote: »

we really don't have the players. we were really bad tonight though, but we don't have the players to change it

That's not true, we can field one maybe even 2 outfield teams with players only from the Premiership.

Trap is inept, bad at managing people, bad at coaching in the modern game and he needs to go before irreparable damage is done to football in this country.

d22ontour · 12-10-2012 11:32PM

djPSB wrote: »

Probably because there's so many English players on the team. :P

Maybe we need to recruit better English players.

_blank_ · 12-10-2012 11:49PM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

before irreparable damage is done to football in this country.

Trap is not the reason for irreperable damage that has already been done to football in this country.

The Football Association of Ireland caused it, was the cause of it, and remains to be the cause of it.

Without getting into it too deeply, because it's late and I've beer to drink, when the FAI started relying on British clubs to nurture talent for the Irish national team, and ignoring it's own domestic league as a breeding ground for talent, instead encouraging clubs to send players to Britain, that is when the irreperable damage was done, and this result, along with the summer fiasco, are the fruits of that idiocy.

Banjaxed82 · 13-10-2012 12:02AM

dreamers75 wrote: »

Irish fans realising our level.......finally.......

What score did Gernany beat the Faroes?

Our level is that low? F*ck off.

Rayne Wooney · 13-10-2012 12:04AM

d22ontour wrote: »

djPSB wrote: »

Probably because there's so many English players on the team. :P

Maybe we need to recruit better English players.

We refused Jamie O'Hara

:eek:

SharpshooterTom · 13-10-2012 12:16AM

Time for Jermaine Pennant to be called?

Pride Fighter · 13-10-2012 12:19AM

Des wrote: »

Trap is not the reason for irreperable damage that has already been done to football in this country.

The Football Association of Ireland caused it, was the cause of it, and remains to be the cause of it.

Without getting into it too deeply, because it's late and I've beer to drink, when the FAI started relying on British clubs to nurture talent for the Irish national team, and ignoring it's own domestic league as a breeding ground for talent, instead encouraging clubs to send players to Britain, that is when the irreperable damage was done, and this result, along with the summer fiasco, are the fruits of that idiocy.

I dont disagree with that. I was just coming at it from a participation of our youth. They wont want to play the game in the first place, let alone get poached over to England that happens atm.

NIMAN · 13-10-2012 12:42AM

In commentary they mentioned the number of CL players in the German side, compared to ours. I also remember ITV mentioning this stat once a few years ago too.

CL football is now the pinnacle of the world game imho. Its a sign of how good you are as a team, player etc if you play in it. Our one player is McGeady, think Germany had 10 players in it.

Says it all.

NIMAN · 13-10-2012 12:43AM

LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »

You can tell from O'Shea comments at end of game they do care but we are set up so negative , we are really not allowed play ball by trap

Sorry but O'Shea should have retired after the Euro's.

He is now part of the problem.

Banjaxed82 · 13-10-2012 12:46AM

NIMAN wrote: »

In commentary they mentioned the number of CL players in the German side, compared to ours. I also remember ITV mentioning this stat once a few years ago too.

CL football is now the pinnacle of the world game imho. Its a sign of how good you are as a team, player etc if you play in it. Our one player is McGeady, think Germany had 10 players in it.

Says it all.

Faroes were beaten 3 nil in Berlin. We were beaten 6-1 at home. How many players do the Faroes have in the English league, don't mind the champions league?

F*ck off with your half baked statistics.

NIMAN · 13-10-2012 12:47AM

So you believe the hype about the English league then?

Banjaxed82 · 13-10-2012 12:50AM

NIMAN wrote: »

So you believe the hype about the English league then?

whatever.

monkey9 · 13-10-2012 12:54AM

The manager is to blame. I'd rather John Aldridge in charge. Trap's era is long gone.

There is one obvious answer, Mick McCarthy, step right up!!

S28382 · 13-10-2012 12:55AM

How can any player play to their ability when they have a manager who doesnt even believe in the players ability, the players do care about playing for Ireland they just dont care about playing for Trap they now know he is gone past his sell by date and since the euros they realise how much he has pushed the team back.

We were embarrassed in Poland,
We were embarrassed in Kazakhstan,
We were embarrassed tonight.

We are now going to go to the Faroes and struggle there and all of this while we have a manager who doesnt care enough to even realise that he is not wanted no more but he is in the best position as the fools at the FAI gave him what he wanted....a big fat contract that he knows they will be reluctant to tear up.

Trap needs to go so some one else can try and salvage our footballing nations pride otherwise we will become even more of a laughing stock in world football.

Will I Amnt · 13-10-2012 01:00AM

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

F*ck off with your half baked statistics.

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Our level is that low? F*ck off.

Aren't you a delight :rolleyes:
And yea I know the reply.......

Is this the first group of Irish players to not care about playing for Ireland?

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