cannot sing or will not sing the anthem?

who the fug · 12-10-2012 08:52PM

Aoifums wrote: »

It annoys me more when players don't sing it at GAA matches. All the players are Irish (or from up north) and they don't have an excuse.

I think some of them be English (London) or American (New York )

Seanchai · 12-10-2012 08:53PM

Aoifums wrote: »

It annoys me more when players don't sing it at GAA matches. All the players are Irish (or from up north) and they don't have an excuse.

Ahem. If they're at a GAA match they're Irish. If they're from Tyrone or Armagh and at a GAA match the chances are they are historically, ethnically and culturally far more Irish than the small group of ignorant people from south of this partitioned country who would like to single them out as being not fully Irish. The irony.

12-10-2012 08:57PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Anocht a théam sa bhearna baoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil, chun báis nó saoil,
Le gunna scréach faoi lámhach na bpiléar,
Seo libh canaig amhrán na bhfiann

Those four lines: rousingly ecstatic stuff when sung in a stadium of 82,000 Irish people.

Fair play to you Seanchai.
Are you, by any chance, just back from target practise or perhaps watching endless re-runs of David Cameron's speech at The Conservative Party conference?
I wonder which one of these?

Duckworth_Luas · 12-10-2012 08:58PM

Aoifums wrote: »

It annoys me more when players don't sing it at GAA matches. All the players are Irish (or from up north) so they don't have an excuse. Didn't most people learn it in Primary school?

I'm pretty sure that it's much more annoying for GAA players from "up north" when people imply that they're not Irish!

Rugby and GAA players generally have long pre match routines that ends with them being totally focused come game time. Many block out all the other nonsense going on around them and concentrate on the task at hand.

Not sure about soccer players but I'd say it's the same, or maybe they just can't sing!

zenno · 12-10-2012 09:01PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

just saw how more than half the Irish team were not not singing the national anthem. not much singing from the crowd either. things look bad.

i'll do it for the lads...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYcATG3fl9M

ejmaztec · 12-10-2012 09:01PM

9959 wrote: »

Fair play to you Seanchai.
Are you, by any chance, just back from target practise or perhaps watching endless re-runs of David Cameron's speech at The Conservative Party conference?
I wonder which one of these?

Talking of Tories, this one's always good for a laugh when the subject of anthems pop up here, in this case the Welsh one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIwBvjoLyZc

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My name is URL · 12-10-2012 09:03PM

Ah here, leave eh owh

Seanchai · 12-10-2012 09:05PM

9959 wrote: »

It used to be Polish people, perhaps in the eyes of the 'ourselves alone' brigade...

Yawn. Sinn Féin does not mean, and never has meant, "ourselves alone" no matter how many ignorant (usually British nationalist) people claim it. This is the sort of conceited ignorance which marks your utterances on Irish politics and history on this forum. Please go away and educate yourself.

Duckworth_Luas · 12-10-2012 09:08PM

My name is URL wrote: »

If Ireland manage to win this match I'll sing it on behalf of everyone, on top of Croagh Patrick... in the nip

I'll even learn the words for the occasion

Come on Ireland, 6 goals in the last 30 minutes and we can make this a reality!

ejmaztec · 12-10-2012 09:09PM

It's strange that a thread on the Irish anthem has to mention the British 6000 times.

Admittedly I did mention the Welsh once, but just to break the monotony.

My name is URL · 12-10-2012 09:11PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Come on Ireland, 6 goals in the last 30 minutes and we can make this a reality!

6 goals without reply. I'd be shocked if Germany don't score another two!

mrsoundie · 12-10-2012 09:12PM

What have the Romans ever done for us!

12-10-2012 09:12PM

Aoifums wrote: »

It annoys me more when players don't sing it at GAA matches. All the players are Irish (or from up north) so they don't have an excuse. Didn't most people learn it in Primary school?

I take it from 'up north' you mean Northern Ireland.
Some people from Northern Ireland feel that they're Irish, some people from 'up north' feel British, e.g. Rory Mcilroy.

But they all have a Catholic/Nationalist back round, you might argue.
You're probably right, but that then gives the lie to supporters of the GAA who will try to tell you with a straight face that their games are open to all regardless of religion or political allegiance.

So do you still believe that all players at GAA matches should sing the Irish national anthem?

Duckworth_Luas · 12-10-2012 09:12PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It's strange that a thread on the Irish anthem has to mention the British 6000 times.

Admittedly I did mention the Welsh once, but just to break the monotony.

So every time someone here mentions the Brits the Krauts score!

Aoifums · 12-10-2012 09:16PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Ahem. If they're at a GAA match they're Irish. If they're from Tyrone or Armagh and at a GAA match the chances are they are historically, ethnically and culturally far more Irish than the small group of ignorant people from south of this partitioned country who would like to single them out as being not fully Irish. The irony.

And if I'd left out the 'from up north' there would be someone on instantly going "northern Ireland isn't Ireland". Can't win!

My name is URL · 12-10-2012 09:16PM

hahhaha... big boo there from the crowd when Trapattoni tried to control the ball

12-10-2012 09:19PM

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

Most of them were born in England don't think they learn it over there!!!

I got news for you, they don't teach it here either.

I spent 14 years in primary and secondary education in Ireland, and throughout that time NONE of my teachers ever made ANY attempt to teach it to us. Not in Irish class, history class, civics, or any other class. By the time I was leaving at 17 I figured if it's not important enough for them to teach it then it's probably not important for me to bother learning it. It never came up on a school exam, certainly not on the Junior/Inter and Leaving certs either, so by extension I guess that means it's unlikely to be anywhere on the department of education's curriculum for any subject.

My name is URL · 12-10-2012 09:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I got news for you, they don't teach it here either.

Fcuk.. just after remembering that the new series of Have I Got News For You was on at 9 :mad:

Best thing Ireland can do now is get 4 men sent off. That way we only lose by default, 1-0 :pac:

Feathers · 12-10-2012 09:24PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Rugby and GAA players generally have long pre match routines that ends with them being totally focused come game time. Many block out all the other nonsense going on around them and concentrate on the task at hand.

Yeah, I mean you couldn't expect top athletes to start messing about with this nationalist or cultural nonsense before a game, it's too much if a distraction. You'd never see any of the top sides doing it anyway, like the All Blacks...

Duckworth_Luas · 12-10-2012 09:30PM

Feathers wrote: »

Yeah, I mean you couldn't expect top athletes to start messing about with this nationalist or cultural nonsense before a game, it's too much if a distraction. You'd never see any of the top sides doing it anyway, like the All Blacks...

When the All Blacks lose the haka is often brought up back in NZ as an unwelcome distraction before the game.

12-10-2012 09:35PM

My name is URL wrote: »

It's no more ironic than how it rained on your ones wedding day.

You've obviously never heard of 'situational irony', but don't worry, I'll explain.
An example of 'situational irony' could be, when a team of sportsmen from one country (Northern Ireland) sing the national anthem of another (The Republic of Ireland) louder and more passionately than those from the country whose anthem it is!

By the way.
Did you mean 'on ones wedding day' or 'your one's'?
When can all be picky.

Napper Hawkins · 12-10-2012 09:37PM

"cannot sing or will not sing the anthem?"

SHEENA FEENA FOIL, ATAW FWEE GYALL EGG EIREANN!

BWEEN DAAR SLOO NA MA NA DEE DAW DEE DOO!

BLAA NEE BLAR NA BRAYY, SHANTIR NA SHINSHARE FAWSTA!

NEE OG FART NA TIR NA NOG FWEEN TRAW!

NA BRING THE CAR SA BEAR THE WHALE!

DA DEE DA DOO NO BOARS NO SALE!

BLA FLEE BLABBY FLOO!

MA NINA BODY BOOOOOOO!

ONNY COGIGG NARAWNN NA VEEEEEEENNNN!!

YEAOW!

There ya go, easy peasy!

My name is URL · 12-10-2012 09:40PM

9959 wrote: »

You've obviously never heard of 'situational irony', but don't worry, I'll explain.
An example of 'situational irony' could be, when a team of sportsmen from one country (Northern Ireland) sing the national anthem of another (The Republic of Ireland) louder and more passionately than those from the country whose anthem it is!

By the way.
Did you mean 'on ones wedding day' or 'your one's'?
When can all be picky.

Well with your narrow minded views on what the definition of nationality is; how could you possible be wrong?

zenno · 12-10-2012 09:53PM

mrsoundie wrote: »

What have the Romans ever done for us!

This man explains it perfectly.. :pac:.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSqQ-0TwMiM

DEFTLEFTHAND · 12-10-2012 10:56PM

I predict a one nil loss to the mighty Faroe Islands on Tuesday. This will result in Trap's release and full payment of remainder of contract. He'll then retire to Italy and see out his days drinking fine wine, toasting the FAI and DOB for being gullible enough to pay him what they did.

ItAintMeBabe · 12-10-2012 11:24PM

"Cannot sing" should not be an excuse, shur after tonight it's clear that half of them can't play football either but that doesn't stop them!!

K-9 · 12-10-2012 11:49PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Ahem. If they're at a GAA match they're Irish. If they're from Tyrone or Armagh and at a GAA match the chances are they are historically, ethnically and culturally far more Irish than the small group of ignorant people from south of this partitioned country who would like to single them out as being not fully Irish. The irony.

Wouldn't be the most nationalistic, sorry, adhere to the traditional stereotype, but the Irish national anthem played in Crossmaglen or Casement Park for an inter county or Ulster club match, hair standing on back stuff.

getzls · 13-10-2012 12:06AM

Fuinseog wrote: »

just saw how more than half the Irish team were not not singing the national anthem. not much singing from the crowd either. things look bad.

They should sing God Save The Queen.

Far easier to remember and nice catchy tune.:D

ejmaztec · 13-10-2012 12:23AM

getzls wrote: »

They should sing God Save The Queen.

Far easier to remember and nice catchy tune.:D

It might be easier to remember, but it's a sh1t tune unless you need a cure for insomnia.

The French one's the best anthem for waking you up in the morning.

Feathers · 13-10-2012 12:25AM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

When the All Blacks lose the haka is often brought up back in NZ as an unwelcome distraction before the game.

I've never seen any article or report that mentions the Haka as a distraction to the NZ team — in fact it's the exact opposite: any article that mentions it talk about the psychological edge that it brings them.

Edit: Take a look at the footage of the Irish rugby team lining out in Croke Park against the English the first year we played there, with tears streaming down the face of John Hayes while the anthem rang out at full volume — these guys feed off this adrenaline, there's no way it's a distraction!

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