DMT

Internet Hero · 12-10-2012 08:37AM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

It's mad stuff, i wouldn't reccomend it if you havent done any kind of hallucinagen before. I done it once, the first hit was pretty weak but it was a cool high the colours were so vivid, we had some tunes on in the background and it was like i could see music the colours were vibrating in unison with the beats, all the while we were laughing our asses off, it didn't last long though.

Ten mins later i took another hit, this time i made sure to hit it hard for the craic. My friend who had done it before had told me all about the different dimension/alien stuff but i thought he was talking was pure bollox. I was wrong in the sense that i didn't think it'd be that intense. About two seconds after the second hit the colours just took over, reality vanished and i was lost in some kind of space and time where everything i knew was completely turned on its head, nothing made any sense. A kaleidescopic world of utter confusion and clarity where they physical world is just and illusion and doesn't matter. It's so hard to explain, i was completely terrified yet absolutely enthralled. I came back to reality shortly after, thankfully. I was glad i had did it but it scared me, if i had never done anything like that before i reckon it would have really left me mentally scarred for a while. It was an amazing experience but not one i'd be rushing to repeat anytime soon as it was just too intense. Also just letting yous know Devo-Whip It is probably not a tune youd want to have on in the background while experiencing the most mind altering trip of your life haha.

On the subject of being transported into different dimensions/worlds etc. it's a load of bollox..yes your brain is basically being taken on a completely different level of conciousness but it's all in your head.

Theres a DMT sequence in the film Enter The Void which is a pretty decent visualisation of what goes on, although this looks way less insane than the trip i was taken on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mb3mssgPhw

sorry man but that's all stuff u heard from the Internet. you never did it. nobody here has tried anything more than maybe acid or mushrooms. no ayahuasca for sure haha liars

smash · 12-10-2012 08:42AM

Internet Hero wrote: »

sorry man but that's all stuff u heard from the Internet. you never did it. nobody here has tried anything more than maybe acid or mushrooms. no ayahuasca for sure haha liars

I didn't know you knew everyone on boards personally.

Swampy · 12-10-2012 08:48AM

I'd be tempted to try it after all these posts.

But I won't.

Suceed · 12-10-2012 08:50AM

There are a few groups in Ireland who regularly put hold ayahuasca (or Daime) ceremonies. Some follow the Santo Daime religion in Brazil, others are a bit looser in structure, others centreing on healing rituals.

The effects are different for different people at different times.

There's also a difference in smoking DMT extract and drinking ayahuasca.

Sir Gallagher · 12-10-2012 03:43PM

Internet Hero wrote: »

sorry man but that's all stuff u heard from the Internet. you never did it. nobody here has tried anything more than maybe acid or mushrooms. no ayahuasca for sure haha liars

Oh no i've been rumbled...

Real Life · 12-10-2012 03:43PM

I thought this was common knowledge

steddyeddy · 12-10-2012 03:48PM

Dmt is in the body alright but so is DNA that doesnt mean its a good idea to add more.

bodice ripper · 12-10-2012 03:49PM

Internet Hero wrote: »

sorry man but that's all stuff u heard from the Internet. you never did it. nobody here has tried anything more than maybe acid or mushrooms. no ayahuasca for sure haha liars

wrong.

and that video is surprisingly like dmt, i think.

My name is URL · 12-10-2012 04:01PM

I've never tried it. Wouldn't even know where to start about going to look for it

I mentioned it one time to the guy I buy weed from and he looked at me as if I had onions growing out of my ears.. maybe he was on it himself!

DyldeBrill · 12-10-2012 04:06PM

kjl wrote: »

Have you heard about this chemical, Dimethyltryptamine or DMT for short. It is produced in your pineal gland and they think it might be responsible for dreaming. It's also a class A narcotic and considered to be one of the worlds strongest hallucinogenic.

This chemical is found in every living organism, both plant and animal and can be extracted. It is either smoked or drank in a tea called ayahuasca.

Users describe the trip as being taken out of this dimension and visiting another one where you are guided by aliens. The whole trip lasts about 7 min and when you are back in this dimension the memory of the trip fades very quickly.

There is a great documentary called DMT the spirit molecule which has scientists and users talking about it.

I suppose my question to you guys is why is this illegal if technically you are in possession of it now and why has nobody heard about it, if there is this drug that lets you explore another dimension and communicate with aliens why are more people not talking about it?

I think a lot of people have heard about this drug, mostly through Joe Rogan who is a huge fan of its side effects.

Yes it can be smoked or drank but amazonian tribes like to sniff small amounts of it.A great doc can be seen with Bruce Parry experimenting the drug on Youtube.Very interesting!

Loads and loads of people are talking about it, and maybe one day I will try the drug but I'd leave that for another few years until I'm old and grey, because who knows what trip your going to have off this stuff! People have lost their mind, and again this all comes down to where your getting it from.DMT can be made from all sorts and a lot of people make it themselves through tree sap etc.....just dunno if I'd trust that right now!

Shryke · 12-10-2012 04:29PM

I would try it. LSD has a very transcendent interconnectedness about it so it would be interesting to compare.

crazy cabbage · 12-10-2012 04:31PM

I haven't done it myself but have read doctor strassmans book DMT - The Spirt Molecule. Is a brillent read and a must if you are anyway interested in it. He makes the book very accesable. There is tons of trip reports classed into different types of trips. He also gives opinions on varouse things such as all alien abductions are the accidental release of DMT by the body.

Not everyone experiences the whole alien thing as someone seemed to suggest ealier. There is two chapters of the book decidated to these types of trips which is more than any other type so it is something that keeps coming up for whatever reason.

There isn't a whole lot of data out there on it. Docter strassman's study was the first real study of the drugs effect on people. There was one other study a few years before but was in a completly different context.

More studys need to be done with DMT. We simply dont know enough about it. And if you read the book you will see the troble that strassman had in getting permission to do the study. Took him years to get the go ahead (and to source a lab to make the dmt). That needs to change if we are to learn anything more.

anhedonia · 12-10-2012 04:37PM

Theres plenty of it going around these days in the form of changa, which is a herbal DMT mixture ideal for smoking from a regular weed pipe. In comparison the freebase DMT crystal needs to be vaporised, so you would need something more akin to a crack pipe to smoke it.

Its truly fascinating, and mixes amazingly well with MDMA, as you're not as terrified to go with it.

Also, there is a very unpleasant aroma, in that it smells like someone lit a bag of dogsh1t on fire in your living room. Totally worth it though.

This thread is making me miss partying

12-10-2012 04:42PM

Just curious, as Ive never tried it, (or heard much about it either to be honest),
but I am wondering what the bad side effects would be. You know how sometimes you hear of people 'taking' bad trips, also would there be any nausea associated with it? Im just assuming there has to be a bad side, as with most things. Would be interested in hearing peoples experience of that.

anhedonia · 12-10-2012 04:50PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Just curious, as Ive never tried it, (or heard much about it either to be honest),
but I am wondering what the bad side effects would be. You know how sometimes you hear of people 'taking' bad trips, also would there be any nausea associated with it? Im just assuming there has to be a bad side, as with most things. Would be interested in hearing peoples experience of that.

There are no bad side affects.
Its over before it starts.
Its so intense that within 30 seconds of inhaling it feels like your head is being shot out of a canon, then you plateau into another universe made up entirely of colorful geometric patters. Sometimes you will meet these entities in the form of machine elves and aliens.
And just as you're trying to comprehend all this it ends, which is between 3 and 5 minutes later.
There is an aferglow for about 30 mins, but then you are completely back to normal, no after grogginess etc.
The reason it lasts so short is because its not a foreign substance to your body, so you can metabolise it really quickly.

Its the type of thing you look back and think that it was the most terrifying and truly exhilarating experience of your life. Its way too intense and short to be able to even think that you're having a bad trip though.

My name is URL · 12-10-2012 04:53PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afMcZVpYBBI

hmmm, that'd make me think twice about trying it.

anhedonia wrote: »

Theres plenty of it going around these days in the form of changa

Changa is mainly made up of other stuff is it not?

anhedonia · 12-10-2012 05:07PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Changa is mainly made up of other stuff is it not?

No the active ingredient in changa is N,N-DMT. It looks kinda like a tobacco mix. Its possible people are referring to other substances as changa, but any changa Ive smoked has been unmistakably DMT.

suicide_circus · 12-10-2012 05:32PM

There is no way of describing a full on salvia or dmt trip to someone who hasn't experienced it, no fücking way. It is so far beyond....everything, there are no words.
It's like waking up, dying and being told the meaning of life all at the same moment....ego destroyed, mind blown.

anhedonia · 12-10-2012 05:36PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

There is no way of describing a full on salvia or dmt trip.

Well you could try!

Although a DMT trip is quite difficult to describe, I find it more difficult to describe being in a K-hole.

tdv123 · 12-10-2012 05:42PM

Yeah I read a couple of stories about it on Erowid a while ago. Sounds pretty f**ked up in all honesty.

Supposedly it's like a Diphenhydramine trip but more intense, shorter & insaner. I tried out DPH before & wasn't something I'd like to experience again.

tdv123 · 12-10-2012 05:43PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Just curious, as Ive never tried it, (or heard much about it either to be honest),
but I am wondering what the bad side effects would be. You know how sometimes you hear of people 'taking' bad trips, also would there be any nausea associated with it? Im just assuming there has to be a bad side, as with most things. Would be interested in hearing peoples experience of that.

There ya go

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_DMT_Bad_Trips.shtml

anhedonia · 12-10-2012 05:48PM

tdv123 wrote: »

Supposedly it's like a Diphenhydramine trip but more intense, shorter & insaner. I tried out DPH before & wasn't something I'd like to experience again.

It is nothing like a Diphenhydramine trip. Diphenhydramine is a deliriant at high doses and extremely dangerous. Being delirious is in no way comparable to the effects of DMT, which though intense, are very euphoric.

tdv123 · 12-10-2012 06:00PM

anhedonia wrote: »

It is nothing like a Diphenhydramine trip. Diphenhydramine is a deliriant at high doses and extremely dangerous. Being delirious is in no way comparable to the effects of DMT, which though intense, are very euphoric.

It's actually a antihistamine but yes as you say in high doses it has deliriant effects.

I've never tried DMT, but you say it has no bad side effects? Seems to be a lot of people who would disagree with you on that.

kumate_champ07 · 12-10-2012 06:58PM

bad side effects could be psychosis lasting weeks/ months, not a nice experience.

it's a powerful drug but unless your mentally unstable or have a history of mental illness it should be a safe experience

Intensive Care Bear · 12-10-2012 07:03PM

The only bad thing about it for me was the smell/taste, its vile, like melting plastic. However with all this talk about it i might spark up my pipe tomorrow night.

donegal_road · 12-10-2012 07:12PM

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

What are you on about? Dopamine is a neurotransmitter, one of your brain's 'reward chemicals', not a treatment for Parkinson's. Parkinson's is caused by lack of dopamine or something though afaik.

Medications that increase the level of dopamine in the brain are the favoured treatment for Parkinsons, thats what I meant, humble apologies

anhedonia · 12-10-2012 07:13PM

tdv123 wrote: »

It's actually a antihistamine but yes as you say in high doses it has deliriant effects.

I've never tried DMT, but you say it has no bad side effects? Seems to be a lot of people who would disagree with you on that.

Yeah all of the antihistamines that have anticholinergic properties become deliriants at recreational doses, benadryl, dramamine etc

They are reknowned for the most unpleasant trips imaginable, nightmares indistinguishable from reality, horrible spiders everywhere type ****. With other psychadelics you kinda know in the back of your mind that you're just tripping, but not with these, hence deliriant.

There's a great vice show on scopolamine, a drug used by prostitutes in Colombia on unsuspecting jons to throw them into hellish nightmares while robbing them blindly and/or killing them. Link:

Im sure some might find DMT too intense, you certainly wouldnt want to do it in a public place, as its very overpowering, but it really is over before you can even comprehend whats happening to you. Also a good nights sleep can be had shortly after a DMT blast, which you dont find with other halluciongens.

Intensive Care Bear · 12-10-2012 07:17PM

Thats why it got the name businessman's acid.

3ndahalfof6 · 12-10-2012 07:17PM

it sounds very like true blood.

12-10-2012 08:13PM

So where does one get it, not that I want to try it, but is it something you'd get from dealers or in a head shop? I imagine it would be difficult to find if illegal, unlike Salvia??

DMT

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