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Liquid nitrogen cocktails

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  • #62
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    Plazaman wrote: »
    See one been served once but never tried one. The whole idea is for cosmetic purposes whilst the drink is being served. It appears the girl drank the cocktail before the Liquid Nitrogen had fully evaporated or whatever the hell it does. Of course this would be similar to many the eejit I've seen drinking a flaming sambuca without blowing out the flame first.

    Cocktails are dangerous kids and I think the good old pint of Carlsberg is hard bet when it comes to nights out.

    I despise those show-off cúnts. 'Oh look at me, I'm mad, I'm setting a shot on fire before I drink it, I'm bleedin' deadly!'. Cúnts!


  • #63
    RADIUS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭RADIUS


    Cocktails destroying stomachs, bootleg spirits killing people in Czech.

    I think I will stick to the auld beer.


  • #64
    Mickey H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    RADIUS wrote: »
    Cocktails destroying stomachs, bootleg spirits killing people in Czech.

    I think I will stick to the auld beer.

    Might be safer in the long run. :D


  • #65
    MistyCheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    reach for the stars wrote: »
    From what i understand there will be no euphoria because its part of our normal air,no taste ,no smell,wont even know its there just drop.body wont give all the normal reactions to suffocating on a foreign gas like
    sweating,light headedness,

    It's certainly true that inhaling nitrogen will have no euphoric effects. Death by ingestion of 100% nitrogen won't kill you in the same way as suffocating on a foreign gas exactly. Every breath we inhale contains approx 3.5 times more nitrogen than oxygen. Inhaling 100% nitrogen would kill you due to lack of oxygen.

    It was at one point being tentatively considered to use 100% nitrogen instead of hydrogen cyanide in gas chambers for execution. Here is a link to a study by Micheal Portillo who determined that the most humane way to execute someone would be oxygen deprivation.


  • #66
    mackg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    http://stores.biochem.uiowa.edu/Pages/ln2msds.htm

    MSDS for liquid nitrogen if anyone is interested.


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  • #67
    Vicar in a tutu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Vicar in a tutu


    Why would anybody do such a stupid thing? , Alcohols bad enough for you, but to put liquid nitrogen into it?! , is ice not good enough anymore?:pac:


  • #68
    anniehoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »
    Yeah, is it not dry ice? Or at least meant to be?

    Dry ice is solid carbon dioxide...a whole different ballgame.


  • #69
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 56,569 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Liquid nitrogen can be used to chill / frost glasses for certain cocktails. They swirl the liquid nitrogen in the bottom of the glass so that the bit of the glass that touches your lip won't cool and your lip won't stick to it but the bit that touched the LN goes frosted and cold.

    You can make cocktails with LN but they'd be pretty pointless - they'd freeze to the extent you'd almost have to eat the thing rather than drink it.

    I wonder in this case was the LN actually meant to be drank - as in did the bar add it to the glass with the intention that it's consumed as part of the cocktail.


  • #70
    Emeraldy Pebbles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    anniehoo wrote: »
    Dry ice is solid carbon dioxide...a whole different ballgame.

    I know that. I mean, is that maybe what they meant to use? Reading further, I guess not! :-/


  • #71
    Emeraldy Pebbles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    awec wrote: »
    Liquid nitrogen can be used to chill / frost glasses for certain cocktails. They swirl the liquid nitrogen in the bottom of the glass so that the bit of the glass that touches your lip won't cool and your lip won't stick to it but the bit that touched the LN goes frosted and cold.

    You can make cocktails with LN but they'd be pretty pointless - they'd freeze to the extent you'd almost have to eat the thing rather than drink it.

    I wonder in this case was the LN actually meant to be drank - as in did the bar add it to the glass with the intention that it's consumed as part of the cocktail.

    Yeah, I mean, rapidly cooling things with LN is grand. You can use LN to make wonderfully smooth ice crystal-free ice cream. I think the trick is to let what you've cooled "warm up" to higher-than-frostbite temperatures. :)


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  • #72
    Emeraldy Pebbles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    Vicar in a tutu wrote: »
    Alcohols bad enough for you, but to put liquid nitrogen into it?! , is ice not good enough anymore?:pac:

    It's not cool enough anymore. ;):pac:


  • #73
    Capt'n Midnight
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    How could anyone possibly see that as a good idea?
    Short version when handled correctly liquid nitrogen is as safe as molten lead.

    This happened in the UK where health and safety laws are enforced.



    There is a phenomenon known as film boiling

    If you spill a drop of liquid nitrogen into your hand - I've done this - the drop won't touch your hand because it will float on a film of boiling nitrogen - same as a drop of water on a red hot cooker - the film of gas insulates you from the extreme cold.

    You can plunge a wet hand into molten lead and again a layer of gas will insulate you - mythbusters did this - the trick is that the lead has to be at a specific temperature too low and you don't get enough gas to insulate from the liquid metal, too hot and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that.


    Did her stomach freeze or was it gas pressure ?
    Liquid nitrogen expands 700 times. But alcohol and water should have frozen by then.


  • #74
    BizzyC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    The report said she perforated her stomache, so I'm assuming it was the gas expansion.

    Had it been the cold surely more than just her stomache would have been harmed.


  • #75
    johnwest288
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭johnwest288


    So are they planning to put in a new stomach??? Repair her torn stomach????? Whats she using to digest food at the moment :eek::confused:


  • #76
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


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  • #77
    seamus
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    johnwest288 wrote: »
    So are they planning to put in a new stomach??? Repair her torn stomach????? Whats she using to digest food at the moment :eek::confused:
    Apparently you can continue to function, they just connect the two dangling ends together and food moves through you much faster than it otherwise would.
    You have to eat much smaller amounts more regularly though, and I'm sure certain foods are out. Energy drinks are probably very much in though.

    She also won't ever have problems with being overweight, though maintaining a healthy weight might be a problem.


  • #78
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Wot, battery acid and Lynx not good enough for people now?:(


  • #79
    johnwest288
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭johnwest288


    seamus wrote: »
    Apparently you can continue to function, they just connect the two dangling ends together and food moves through you much faster than it otherwise would.
    You have to eat much smaller amounts more regularly though, and I'm sure certain foods are out. Energy drinks are probably very much in though.

    She also won't ever have problems with being overweight, though maintaining a healthy weight might be a problem.

    Phew :cool: thank god. I had images of her "doing the centipede" for the rest of her life. :o


  • #80
    R P McMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    bbam wrote: »
    How do they manage to serve it?
    It needs to be below -190c (or something like that) to remain liquid. So if it were mixed into a drink at room temperature surely the drink would freeze or it would evaporate off quickly.

    Is only a mixer for cosmetic purposes to give a nice smouldering look to a cocktail. Obviously the barperson either put to much in or she downed the drink immediately or a combination of the two.


  • #81
    Capt'n Midnight
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    R P McMurphy wrote: »
    Is only a mixer for cosmetic purposes to give a nice smouldering look to a cocktail. Obviously the barperson either put to much in or she downed the drink immediately or a combination of the two.
    It's a place filled with drinkers many of who are drunk

    Totally unreasonable to assume that none is going to drink it immediately


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  • #82
    msg11
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    seamus wrote: »
    Apparently you can continue to function, they just connect the two dangling ends together and food moves through you much faster than it otherwise would.
    You have to eat much smaller amounts more regularly though, and I'm sure certain foods are out. Energy drinks are probably very much in though.

    She also won't ever have problems with being overweight, though maintaining a healthy weight might be a problem.

    This might sound a bit weird, but what you are saying sounds about right. But would I be right in saying if this is the case could a family member donate some of there stomach too her? Actually wait wrong part was thinking of the small intestine. Would there be a transplant available or making the small intestine longer help with hunger?

    Picture of what is done for anyone interested here


  • #83
    unemployedM0d
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9 ✭unemployedM0d


    seamus wrote: »
    Apparently you can continue to function, they just connect the two dangling ends together and food moves through you much faster than it otherwise would.
    You have to eat much smaller amounts more regularly though, and I'm sure certain foods are out. Energy drinks are probably very much in though.

    She also won't ever have problems with being overweight, though maintaining a healthy weight might be a problem.

    You greatly underestimate the relative difficulties of living life without a stomach. Unless you have references to back up what you are saying, maybe it's best not to comment. Hopefully the teachnology used to build an artificial stomach in Australia recently will make it's way to humans soon. They already have artificial hearts for implantation. http://www.pharm.monash.edu.au/news/2010/artificial-stomach.html


  • #84
    beazee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭beazee


    Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »
    Well, it might not be toxic but...
    Citing Material Safety Data Sheet:
    "No specific information is available in our database regarding the other toxic effects of this material to humans. (...)
    Ingestion is not a normal route of exposure for gases. Contact with cryogenic liquid can cause frostbite and cryogenic burns. (...)
    No known significant effects or critical hazards. (...)
    May cause rapid suffocation"
    http://www.airgas.com/documents/pdf/001040.pdf

    All of the above means liquid nitrogen is not toxic nor hazardous.


  • #85
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    This is genuinely f*cking nightmarish, to be honest. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a cocktail you're served is fit for consumption without costing you your stomach.

    18, Jesus. She's just a child.


  • #86
    Emeraldy Pebbles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    beazee wrote: »
    Citing Material Safety Data Sheet:
    "No specific information is available in our database regarding the other toxic effects of this material to humans. (...)
    Ingestion is not a normal route of exposure for gases. Contact with cryogenic liquid can cause frostbite and cryogenic burns. (...)
    No known significant effects or critical hazards. (...)
    May cause rapid suffocation"
    http://www.airgas.com/documents/pdf/001040.pdf

    All of the above means liquid nitrogen is not toxic nor hazardous.

    It's not toxic, at cold temperatures it evidently can be hazardous, unless you don't think a perforated stomach is a problem? :confused: The key thing there is that they say it shouldn't be ingested, and they'd be right. But clearly this bar didn't read the MSDS. And when ingested, it clearly can be hazardous. The people who compiled the MSDS are assuming that nobody is dumb enough to serve cold cold cold liquid nitrogen.

    Also, may cause suffocation, but isn't a hazard. WTF? Who wrote this thing?


  • #87
    BizzyC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    Has anything else come out about the bar?

    At this stage I'm mainly interested in knowing wtf they were thinking and how the people responsible will be dealt with.


  • #88
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    For people asking how someone could live with out a stomach
    Here is an interesting but very sad story of a guy who had his oesophagus, stomach, colon and large intestine removed :eek:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu2iJseYlOQ


  • #89
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    unemployedM0d wrote: »
    You greatly underestimate the relative difficulties of living life without a stomach.
    Oh absolutely, I'm sure it's a tough existence. I wasn't going to go through the ins and outs of it though, just respond to the question.


  • #90
    stevenmu
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    BizzyC wrote: »
    Has anything else come out about the bar?

    At this stage I'm mainly interested in knowing wtf they were thinking and how the people responsible will be dealt with.
    Not yet I don't think. But at a guess, it's very likely the girl will sue them and win millions. The bar's insurance company, who will have to pay out to the girl, will quite possibly then sue the bar for exposing them to that.

    It's also very likely that the owners will face criminal charges for some combination of criminal negligence, health and safety, and food safety violations.


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  • #91
    SuprSi
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    Here's one persons story on their life without a stomach;

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/life-without-my-stomach-760668.html


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