The Hazards of Belief

FouxDaFaFa · 09-10-2012 09:16PM

The bus was about to leave the school grounds in the city of Mingora when a bearded man approached it and asked which one of the girls was Malala, said police. Another girl pointed to Malala, but the activist denied it was her and the gunmen then shot both of the girls. Both are in hospital.

Jesus Christ.

It's kind of funny (in a horribly twisted way) that the Taliban is so perturbed by a lone child that they will take out a hit on her.

I mean, wtf?

Aenaes · 09-10-2012 09:46PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

It's kind of funny (in a horribly twisted way) that the Taliban is so perturbed by a lone child that they will take out a hit on her.

I mean, wtf?

Real Terminator style too. We're not sure which one is her, so kill all the Sarah Connors.

Galvasean · 09-10-2012 11:06PM

seamus wrote: »

Is it just me or is Pakistan's tentative grip on some form of civil order crumbling in recent months?

That country really does give me the heebie-jeebies. It sounds like one hell of a scary place to live.

Sulla Felix · 09-10-2012 11:16PM

Really seems to be going off the deep end. Next stop civil war I'm guessing.

Obliq · 09-10-2012 11:23PM

Yeah, and with big fcuk off bombs. Oh joy.

Banbh · 10-10-2012 08:38AM

Has there been any condemnation from any Muslim group? Anything?
Has the Dublin mosque called for a special bums-in-air prayer meeting?
A letter to the Times? A post on boards? Anything?

pauldla · 10-10-2012 09:41AM

Banbh wrote: »

Has there been any condemnation from any Muslim group? Anything?
Has the Dublin mosque called for a special bums-in-air prayer meeting?
A letter to the Times? A post on boards? Anything?

Apparently the Pakistani PM and President have condemned the shooting. Other than that, I haven't read of anything. Shooting a 14 year old girl is not as diabolical as drawing a cartoon, it seems.

recedite · 10-10-2012 10:49AM

10 minute documentary about the girl and her father, who is a teacher. I think they expected that he would be the target, not her. They seem like great people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbSO2akmKtM

Nodin · 10-10-2012 12:55PM

Banbh wrote: »

Has there been any condemnation from any Muslim group? Anything?
Has the Dublin mosque called for a special bums-in-air prayer meeting?
A letter to the Times? A post on boards? Anything?

I'm reminded of the Daily Mail and Express, who were outraged that every shooting by the RA didn't have the country out protesting and handing in the culprits.

Banbh · 10-10-2012 02:04PM

I'm reminded of the riots in Pakistan and elsewhere in which several people lost their lives at the hands of these zealots over a video made in the US.

FouxDaFaFa · 10-10-2012 03:12PM

Apparently, there were protests and vigils across Pakistan for Malala, with several schools being closed for the day as a mark of respect.
Nothing of the scale that a cartoon of Mohammed would inspire, of course.

The militants say that if she recovers, she "will not be spared".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19893309

I'd say she'll have to leave the country.

Galvasean · 10-10-2012 03:28PM

I wouldn't read the seeming lack of a great many people coming out in protest of teh attack. I would imagine many sympathizers would want to keep quiet for fear of becoming the next victim.

Nodin · 10-10-2012 03:33PM

Banbh wrote: »

I'm reminded of the riots in Pakistan and elsewhere in which several people lost their lives at the hands of these zealots over a video made in the US.

The taleban were rioting outside pakistan....?

DB21 · 10-10-2012 08:34PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Apparently, there were protests and vigils across Pakistan for Malala, with several schools being closed for the day as a mark of respect.
Nothing of the scale that a cartoon of Mohammed would inspire, of course.

The militants say that if she recovers, she "will not be spared".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19893309

I'd say she'll have to leave the country.

Any Government worth their salt will be offering her and her family refuge.

10-10-2012 08:41PM

DB21 wrote: »

Any Government worth their salt will be offering her and her family refuge.

Hopefully but leaving would be admitting defeat too. If it wasn't a young girl I dunno if it'd be the case, most of the west has lost even more guts over the last 20 years when faced with these scumbags and look at how Salman Rushdie was treated for so long.

Sulla Felix · 10-10-2012 08:44PM

Galvasean wrote: »

I wouldn't read the seeming lack of a great many people coming out in protest of teh attack. I would imagine many sympathizers would want to keep quiet for fear of becoming the next victim.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Easy for me to say, sitting in a chair in the west however. I imagine this won't be the straw that breaks the good men's back though. I think Pakistan is in for another few decades of this before an attempt is made to right itself, albeit in a paroxym of violence.

Bannasidhe · 10-10-2012 08:45PM

DB21 wrote: »

Any Government worth their salt will be offering her and her family refuge.

Well that rules us out so.

swampgas · 10-10-2012 08:51PM

Well, if the CIA wanted to smuggle her and her family out of Pakistan to somewhere via Shannon, I'm sure the Irish government would be able to help.

Bannasidhe · 10-10-2012 08:53PM

swampgas wrote: »

Well, if the CIA wanted to smuggle her and her family out of Pakistan to somewhere via Shannon, I'm sure the Irish government would be able to help.

By pretending it didn't happen?

swampgas · 10-10-2012 08:56PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

By pretending it didn't happen?

As long as we had the right assurances that it didn't happen, why we wouldn't even have to check the plane. In fact, it would be rude to do so!

Bannasidhe · 10-10-2012 09:03PM

swampgas wrote: »

As long as we had the right assurances that it didn't happen, why we wouldn't even have to check the plane. In fact, it would be rude to do so!

Oh we could never to rude to Americay. Perish the thought.

FouxDaFaFa · 10-10-2012 09:53PM

I had heard rumblings about this story and assumed this guy was a nutjob who wanted to see an end to religion. Turns out he was from another Christian sect.

Miami, Okla., police arrested Gregory Weiler II, 23, Thursday in a motel room with 50 Molotov cocktails and a hand-drawn map of 48 Oklahoma churches he intended to firebomb, according to police and a criminal affidavit filed in Ottawa County District Court.
Weiler’s family did not know what brought him to the small city in northeast Oklahoma. Prior to his arrest, family members said he had become involved with an extremist Christian church.

ShooterSF · 10-10-2012 11:44PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

I had heard rumblings about this story and assumed this guy was a nutjob who wanted to see an end to religion. Turns out he was from another Christian sect.

How did he think he'd get to number 48 without the authorities you know figuring out his targets? Maybe the spare two molotovs were to be used on the dunkin donuts to lure the cops into protecting the wrong establishments.

FouxDaFaFa · 11-10-2012 12:14AM

I think he's extremely ill (I believe he's bipolar) and possibly didn't think it through very well. Thankfully.

Delirium · 11-10-2012 08:08AM

Fury as woman outlines abortion at Mass

A priest has sparked controversy after he arranged for a woman to give a graphic account of her abortion at a children’s Mass and outline how she believed her special needs child was a punishment from God.

The speech was made in front of up to 100 children at the Church of Our Lady Conceived Without Sin in Mitchelstown, Co Cork. It coincided with the issuing of a pastoral letter by the Catholic Bishops of Ireland on abortion.

Parish priest Fr Michael Fitzgerald did not seek permission from the apostolic administrator of the diocese, Archbishop Dermot Clifford, to allow the woman to take to the pulpit.

Last night, the archbishop said he was "unhappy this speech took place". He contacted Fr Fitzgerald about the guest speaker this week after he received complaints from parishioners who were disgusted the speech was made in front of children and that a special needs child was described as "punishment from God".

Obliq · 11-10-2012 08:51AM

Wow

"The woman, who lives in the Cork area, was a representative of the Rachel’s Vineyard organisation. Set up in the US by the pro-life Priests for Life organisation, Rachel’s Vineyard provides counselling and retreats to women who have had abortions. An Irish representative for the group said it "too believed the comments were misinterpreted"."
Wonder if all other pro-life organisations are going to have a go at speaking to the masses? Hope this shoots them in the foot before it becomes the new thing.

Galvasean · 11-10-2012 11:46PM

Seriously, how many more nails before this damnable coffin will shut for good?

Hotblack Desiato · 12-10-2012 12:12AM

and outline how she believed her special needs child was a punishment from God.

That's disgusting.

pauldla · 13-10-2012 10:55AM

Fatwa issued against gunmen who shot girl (14)

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/1013/1224325224726.html

Islamic clerics in Pakistan have issued a fatwa against the Taliban gunmen who attempted to kill a 14-year-old girl known for campaigning for the right of young females to an education.

13-10-2012 12:42PM

pauldla wrote: »

Fatwa issued against gunmen who shot girl (14)

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/1013/1224325224726.html

After they get Salman I assume.

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