Things In Football That Grind Your Gears

cwboy · 07-10-2012 11:11PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

cwboy wrote: »

Free kicks for the slightest touch.

Disagree with this simply because sometimes a 'slight' touch is all it takes.

If you have someone running full pelt down the wing and he gets a slight touch on his ankle. The momentum takes him down more then anything.

Yes I know some people do go down with a slight touch anyway, but that is one reason why it's not the players fault ^

im talking about when two players are tussling for a ball and the merest hint of physicality and its a free one way or the other. let players fight for a ball. kicking or tripping is a free but soccer is a contact sport

Kirby · 07-10-2012 11:13PM

Defending is an art and we shouldn't be punishing a side from seeing out a game with 10 minutes to go at 2-2. Losing points for a draw is a ridiculous idea. A team that scores twice and still draws deserves as much, if not more, than a team who scabs a 1-0 win in injury time.

A more common sense approach, and one I have pushed for regarding the world cup and the euro's in the group stage....is that it stays 3 points for a win and 1 point for a score draw........but a 0-0 nets you no points.

It would encourage teams not to park the bus as it is ultimately not worth anything but would still value defending as an important part of the game.

cwboy · 07-10-2012 11:17PM

PHB wrote: »

Diving should have been fixed now. Retrospective video analysis of every game. Any definite 100% dives recieve an instant 5 match ban, and a fine equivilent to 2 weeks wages. It would be removed from the game within 2 months.

Totally agree about diving. See no reason video evidence can't be used. agree that punishments must be severe for obvious dives. would rid it very quickly.

1mcampo1 · 08-10-2012 01:11AM

The notion that football has to be played 'the beautiful way'

Yes, it's easier on the eye, and I 100% prefer teams who knock it around, play counter attacking football, and attack the opposition, but the way teams, ala Stoke, play... as annoying as it is, it is still football

_blank_ · 08-10-2012 06:30AM

1mcampo1 wrote: »

The notion that football has to be played 'the beautiful way'

Yes, it's easier on the eye, and I 100% prefer teams who knock it around, play counter attacking football, and attack the opposition, but the way teams, ala Stoke, play... as annoying as it is, it is still football

Correct.

And it's usually spoiled arseholes, and Hipster Barca fans who try to say that "the proper way" is somehow better than a team that defends more than it attacks.

Fúck off morons. People who don't really enjoy football at all, and just want to be "entertained" by attacking football.

Franco Baresi was one of the most entertaining players who ever set foot on a football field, and he was a defender. Paul McGrath, Paolo Maldini, Franz Beceknbauer to an extent. Supreme football players, all very well versed in the art of defending.

dsmythy · 08-10-2012 06:59AM

People who bemoan different styles of play and teams who play for the draw. I'm sure you'd love your favourite team to steamroll the opposition every game but the other team has other ideas.

Also referee bashing. We all have 100% records thanks to 10 super slowmos from different angles of a tackle. Try it in real time while running down a pitch with thousands screaming at you. Have video assistance to judge if a ball was over the line or a foul was in or out of the penalty box otherwise just accept that it's an incredibly difficult job.

padd b1975 · 08-10-2012 07:40AM

The phrase "early doors".

People who use pointless plurals, eg. your Man Utds and Chelseas of this world.

helimachoptor · 08-10-2012 07:47AM

Lack of contact is a bug bear of mine. At the weekend our ref said he'll let as much of the physicality go as possible and he did, it was a great game as it flowed. Normally you'd be stopping every 2 mins for something and the magic sponge only appeared once!

eyescreamcone · 08-10-2012 08:34AM

helimachoptor wrote: »

Lack of contact is a bug bear of mine. At the weekend our ref said he'll let as much of the physicality go as possible and he did, it was a great game as it flowed. Normally you'd be stopping every 2 mins for something and the magic sponge only appeared once!

How magical is that sponge anyway?

helimachoptor · 08-10-2012 10:20AM

eyescreamcone wrote: »

How magical is that sponge anyway?

Pretty magical!
At the weekend 2 guys went in for a tackle, 50/50 ball other guy comes off worse, rolling around on the ground, manager on with water and magic sponge and he's up sprinting a minute later

Easy Rod · 09-10-2012 08:16AM

Lawro has probably been mentioned a few times at this stage but the one thing he does that really gets me is the way he can't pronounce the word 'But' it comes out more like 'Buuurrt'.

pickarooney · 09-10-2012 09:03AM

Meaningless matches. Have a minimum points target for avoiding relegation and if eight teams fail to reach it they all go down.

geeky · 09-10-2012 09:10AM

The way that fans' response to racism has become tied in with what team they support.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-10-2012 09:13AM

pickarooney wrote: »

Meaningless matches. Have a minimum points target for avoiding relegation and if eight teams fail to reach it they all go down.

The if all teams reach it with few games to go you have more meaningless matches then you had before.

pickarooney · 09-10-2012 09:40AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The if all teams reach it with few games to go you have more meaningless matches then you had before.

I'm not sure if that's mathematically possible. I'd put it pretty high, around 50 points.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-10-2012 09:57AM

pickarooney wrote: »

I'm not sure if that's mathematically possible. I'd put it pretty high, around 50 points.

So lets say 8 teams went down. Do 8 teams come up or would they need to meet target of lets say 70 points?(7 teams met that last season in Championship)

GLaDOS · 09-10-2012 10:52AM

pickarooney wrote: »

I'm not sure if that's mathematically possible. I'd put it pretty high, around 50 points.

The entire bottom half of the table would have went down last season in that case :pac:

_blank_ · 09-10-2012 11:05AM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

The entire bottom half of the table would have went down last season in that case :pac:

Good, get rid of them all, they're all shíte anyway. Just keep the top 4 to play each other all the time.

Great!

pickarooney · 09-10-2012 03:14PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

So lets say 8 teams went down. Do 8 teams come up or would they need to meet target of lets say 70 points?(7 teams met that last season in Championship)

I'm a fan of the inter-division play-offs myself, but 8 up to replace 8 down would be fine as well. You might say the gulf between the top (how many is it now, 5,6 or 4 still?) and the rest would grow but they're effectively in a different league as it is anyway.

dfx- · 09-10-2012 04:47PM

Des wrote: »

Correct.

And it's usually spoiled arseholes, and Hipster Barca fans who try to say that "the proper way" is somehow better than a team that defends more than it attacks.

Fúck off morons. People who don't really enjoy football at all, and just want to be "entertained" by attacking football.

Franco Baresi was one of the most entertaining players who ever set foot on a football field, and he was a defender. Paul McGrath, Paolo Maldini, Franz Beceknbauer to an extent. Supreme football players, all very well versed in the art of defending.

The 'proper way' can be mind numbingly defensive and boring. Doesn't have to be entertaining. Watch Pats pass it between their two centre halves and defensive midfielder for 20 minutes and try to stay awake. Defending with the ball is an art of defending in and of itself.

Teams who can't do that [and most teams can't], don't. You can have all sorts of arts and 'playing to your strengths' you like, but the proper, difficult and most skilled way is to have and use the ball.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-10-2012 05:48PM

People who go to matches for agenda.

When at Tolka few seasons ago in Riverside end all couple of Cork fans were doing was abusing the Linesman everytime he gave offside decision against us.

Support the team ffs.

Handsome Bob · 09-10-2012 05:51PM

Phrases llke grind my gears, that is what 'grinds my gears'.

Prick! · 09-10-2012 05:51PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Meaningless matches. Have a minimum points target for avoiding relegation and if eight teams fail to reach it they all go down.

If it's not possible to reach the target with x games to go you'd have meaningless matches too.

St.Spodo · 09-10-2012 06:12PM

The notion that diving is worse than seriously injuring a player.

Fans not standing and singing throughout the games. United and Arsenal fans must hate the lack of atmosphere in their home grounds.

People not appreciating the immense craic to be had supporting a local team, and dismissing it out of hand.

The debate surrounding Messi and Ronaldo. I really don't care who you think is a better player.

Mars Bar · 09-10-2012 06:21PM

The fact that you're expected to stand and sing at games.

If a person is standing in front of me then I can't see. Sit the **** down. I paid for my ticket to watch the game.

I also like to give the game my undivided attention. My concentration face usually doesn't involve two hands in the air whilst chanting.

polarbearhead · 09-10-2012 06:47PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

The phrase "early doors".

People who use pointless plurals, eg. your Man Utds and Chelseas of this world.

just watch paul merson on soccer saturday for this nonsense

G.K. · 09-10-2012 07:53PM

The phrase 'playing the percentages'

NIMAN · 09-10-2012 08:10PM

Players who, when trying to cross the ball into the box and have maybe 100 cubic metres of space in which to aim their cross to, manage to hit a man 6ft high x 2ft wide EVERY time.

Ares · 09-10-2012 08:20PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

The fact that you're expected to stand and sing at games.

If a person is standing in front of me then I can't see. Sit the **** down. I paid for my ticket to watch the game.

I also like to give the game my undivided attention. My concentration face usually doesn't involve two hands in the air whilst chanting.

Its you and your like that ensure the Theater of Dreams is more like a funeral parlour every second weekend. Well done you.

Proper fans get behind their team and give them backing, encouragment and sing witty songs.

Mars Bar · 09-10-2012 08:26PM

Ares wrote: »

Its you and your like that ensure the Theater of Dreams is more like a funeral parlour every second weekend. Well done you.

Proper fans get behind their team and give them backing, encouragment and sing witty songs.

Get down off your high horse there like a good lad.

Each to their own. I personally don't like having to look at the back of someone's jacket for 90 minutes. Chant away all you like and I don't mind if the person beside me is singing for the full 90 or doesn't sing at all, that's their choice. Usually my shouting is either encouragement or expletives depending on the situation but chanting probably won't be one of them.

Things In Football That Grind Your Gears

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