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Free food and Coffee for the Gardai in some establishments.

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  • #362
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    paraletic wrote: »
    Come on???

    My children give their teachers a gift at Christmas. (in primary school). Is that wrong?
    In my view, completely and utterly wrong and it says a lot about grasping, mean-spirited teachers that accept gifts from children. Something like a seasonal card or a thank you card, fine, maybe even a Mass Bouquet (depending on beliefs, denominations etc), but other than that, no way. Measured on a per hour basis, teachers are amongst the highest paid people in the country; if anything they should buy cards for their students.


  • #363
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    davet82 wrote: »
    its a box of maltesers ffs!! :pac:

    Parent A brings a box of maltesers
    Parent B brings a bigger, more expensive box of chocolate
    Parent c Brings a more expensive gift
    Parent D out does the Jones' and brings a bigger more expensive give
    Parent E, knows their child may fail and that the teacher has direct responsibility for marking so gives a more expensive gift......................


    Now if you'll excuse me I have to go down to the local town planner to give them a gift for rezoning my land all the good work they do:)


  • #364
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    mathepac wrote: »
    if anything they should buy cards for their students.

    I don't think that's appropriate. What if the students think it's a bribe to be kind in their WSE appraisals?


  • #365
    Sorcha16
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Sorcha16


    MagicSean wrote: »
    I doubt very much there is a chipper out there that would give large amounts of food for free.

    Just because you doubt something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it can and does. Gardaí badge-flashing to gain free entry into niteclubs is almost a given in this country and to pretend otherwise is just disingenuous


  • #366
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Parent A brings a box of maltesers
    Parent B brings a bigger, more expensive box of chocolate
    Parent c Brings a more expensive gift
    Parent D out does the Jones' and brings a bigger more expensive give
    Parent E, knows their child may fail and that the teacher has direct responsibility for marking so gives a more expensive gift......................


    Now if you'll excuse me I have to go down to the local town planner to give them a gift for rezoning my land all the good work they do:)

    If you're passing the doctors call in for a free check-up.


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  • #367
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Sorcha16 wrote: »
    Just because you doubt something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it can and does. Gardaí badge-flashing to gain free entry into niteclubs is almost a given in this country and to pretend otherwise is just disingenuous


    This whole thread was started because a garda got a free cup of coffee. I think comparing that to wholesale backhander activity is disingenuous too as do a lot of people in this thread, but that doesn't seem to matter.


  • #368
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sorcha16 wrote: »
    Just because you doubt something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it can and does. Gardaí badge-flashing to gain free entry into niteclubs is almost a given in this country and to pretend otherwise is just disingenuous

    In your first year in college did you not have Banks giving out freebies, pubs/niteclubs sending up free tickets etc etc. Do you refuse to take the two for the price of one in Tesco or the 2e drinks in your local etc etc.
    Admit you have a chip on your shoulder. No forget it your posts have already convinced me.


  • #369
    Sorcha16
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Sorcha16


    Feeona wrote: »
    This whole thread was started because a garda got a free cup of coffee. I think comparing that to wholesale backhander activity is disingenuous too as do a lot of people in this thread, but that doesn't seem to matter.

    If you wish to be pedantic then the thread clearly relates to free food and coffee received by Gardaí. Also, it's within the basic nature of discussion to develop as they progress, it's just a natural expansion of the original topic

    tayto lover wrote: »
    In your first year in college did you not have Banks giving out freebies, pubs/niteclubs sending up free tickets etc etc. Do you refuse to take the two for the price of one in Tesco or the 2e drinks in your local etc etc.
    Admit you have a chip on your shoulder. No forget it your posts have already convinced me.

    What are you actually talking about? There's a wealth of difference between a broke student receiving a once-off freebie at the start of a year and a remunerated Garda regularly receiving free food. Also, I couldn't care less what my posts have 'convinced' you of to be honest


  • #370
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    ...and yes, it's the establishments choice to award food and/or drinks to a member of the Gardai but my question is, should a member of the Gardai accept such like?

    I was in a very busy Topaz filling station where I always see lots of member of the force having their "break" the other day. There was a long Queue waiting to pay for stuff at the tills, which I was in. I know the girl at one of the tills and I noted a discreet exchange between her and a Garda who just got a coffee and some sort of snack.....she said "you're grand,no charge" ....and he just said "thanks" .......lots of people noted the Freebie, and lots of eye's rolled to heaven....

    Personally I think he should insist on paying for it.....it look like a "Stroke" Freebie to me......

    what do you think?



    Maybe he's pumping her, pumping hard, and unleaded too.


  • #371
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    Feeona wrote: »
    I don't think that's appropriate. What if the students think it's a bribe to be kind in their WSE appraisals?
    Ah yes, spoken like a true garda nurse postman teacher airline pilot


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  • #372
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    mathepac wrote: »
    Ah yes, spoken like a true garda nurse postman teacher airline pilot

    So you think teachers should bribe their students?


  • #373
    timmywex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    This whole thread should have been finished over a hundred posts ago really.

    Back to the original post...

    The guard got a coffee, tried to pay for it and the sales assistant said no.

    So do all the begrudgers....

    a) Expect the gard to just leave the coffee that he/she wants?
    b) Take it for free?


    Im going to say take it for free considering he/she even offered to pay for it


  • #374
    _feedback_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Boombastic wrote: »
    davet82 wrote: »
    its a box of maltesers ffs!! :pac:

    Parent A brings a box of maltesers
    Parent B brings a bigger, more expensive box of chocolate
    Parent c Brings a more expensive gift
    Parent D out does the Jones' and brings a bigger more expensive give
    Parent E, knows their child may fail and that the teacher has direct responsibility for marking so gives a more expensive gift......................


    Now if you'll excuse me I have to go down to the local town planner to give them a gift for rezoning my land all the good work they do:)

    The posters were referring to primary school teachers... Who the fup brings presents in to a junior cert teacher.


  • #375
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Sorcha16 wrote: »
    If you wish to be pedantic then the thread clearly relates to free food and coffee received by Gardaí. Also, it's within the basic nature of discussion to develop as they progress, it's just a natural expansion of the original topic

    I suppose working in a sector which is constantly subject to speculation and questioning about everything from the tax bill to a cup of coffee, I have to wonder where the line is drawn between being a 'slave to the people' and an actual real person.

    Where do you work Sorcha? Are you subject to such speculation in your line of work?


  • #376
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sorcha16 wrote: »
    If you wish to be pedantic then the thread clearly relates to free food and coffee received by Gardaí. Also, it's within the basic nature of discussion to develop as they progress, it's just a natural expansion of the original topic




    What are you actually talking about? There's a wealth of difference between a broke student receiving a once-off freebie at the start of a year and a remunerated Garda regularly receiving free food. Also, I couldn't care less what my posts have 'convinced' you of to be honest

    it's within the basic nature of discussion to develop as they progress, it's just a natural expansion of the original topic


  • #377
    DwightSchrute1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭DwightSchrute1


    timmywex wrote: »
    This whole thread should have been finished over a hundred posts ago really.

    Back to the original post...

    The guard got a coffee, tried to pay for it and the sales assistant said no.

    So do all the begrudgers....

    a) Expect the gard to just leave the coffee that he/she wants?
    b) Take it for free?


    Im going to say take it for free considering he/she even offered to pay for it

    You forgot option c) declare it on their Tax forms!! :rolleyes:


  • #378
    Sorcha16
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Sorcha16


    tayto lover wrote: »
    it's just a natural expansion of the original topic

    No it's not, it's an entirely different discussion. Gardaí and students couldn't be more different if they tried


  • #379
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sorcha16 wrote: »
    No it's not, it's an entirely different discussion. Gardaí and students couldn't be more different if they tried

    Have you any free chips?


  • #380
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    MagicSean wrote: »
    ................................
    You appear to be unable to see the difference between a gift and a favour. A gift is given with no strings. A favour is done with the expectation of return. Providing tea provides no benefits for the business other then the two I stated, extra custom and a feeling of safety, neither of which could be considered a gift or a favour.
    If a garda would stand outside where i worked we would have given him a free 4 course dinner. It's good to see them around and people appreciate their presence and the fact that incidents are unlikely to happen when they are around.
    But I don't because I understand (like most of the people in this thread) that a few simple perks keep the machine running


    On this page alone, plenty more on the previous pages, all justifying giving free stuff to gardai or else there wouldn't be a visible presence.....Gift or bribe?


    tayto lover wrote: »
    If you're passing the doctors call in for a free check-up.

    Is this another perk I don't know about? Anyone got the loan of a hat?:pac:
    tayto lover wrote: »
    In your first year in college did you not have Banks giving out freebies, pubs/niteclubs sending up free tickets etc etc. Do you refuse to take the two for the price of one in Tesco or the 2e drinks in your local etc etc.
    Admit you have a chip on your shoulder. No forget it your posts have already convinced me.
    do you think they do this for the good of their health or are there gains for the company?


  • #381
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Boombastic wrote: »
    On this page alone, plenty more on the previous pages, all justifying giving free stuff to gardai or else there wouldn't be a visible presence.....Gift or bribe?

    Hmmm, you quoted me, yet left out the bit where I said that taxpayers pay for the perks in private companies. Do you work for a private company, and if you do, do you accept these perks which are partially funded by the taxpayer?


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  • #382
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Boombastic wrote: »
    On this page alone, plenty more on the previous pages, all justifying giving free stuff to gardai or else there wouldn't be a visible presence.....Gift or bribe?





    Is this another perk I don't know about? Anyone got the loan of a hat?:pac:

    They can't examine your head with a cap on and loaning a cap might be construed as a perk anyway.

    do you think they do this for the good of their health or are there gains for the company?

    I'd say it's win/win myself just like in the case of the free tea.


  • #383
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Feeona wrote: »
    Hmmm, you quoted me, yet left out the bit where I said that taxpayers pay for the perks in private companies. Do you work for a private company, and if you do, do you accept these perks which are partially funded by the taxpayer?

    Please explain this to me, I don't understand


  • #384
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Please explain this to me, I don't understand

    Private companies in Ireland also get money from the government in the form of tax breaks. Do you accept the perks in the company you work in or do you turn them down?


  • #385
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Feeona wrote: »
    Private companies in Ireland also get money from the government in the form of tax breaks. Do you accept the perks in the company you work in or do you turn them down?

    :rolleyes: Read this post


  • #386
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Boombastic wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Read this post

    So I take that to mean that you do accept perks in your job. Do you not think that because your company gets money from the government in the form of tax breaks that you should be answerable to the general public to any or all perks you get in line with your work?


  • #387
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Feeona wrote: »
    So I take that to mean that you do accept perks in your job. Do you not think that because your company gets money from the government in the form of tax breaks that you should be answerable to the general public to any or all perks you get in line with your work?
    I have an issue with anyone in a position of authority accepting gifts which may affect impartiality. Garda, teachers, developers, judges, county councillors but as this thread is about gardai....

    How do you deduct from that post I get perks, or even work for a company that gets tax breaks?


  • #388
    _feedback_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Feeona wrote: »
    So I take that to mean that you do accept perks in your job. Do you not think that because your company gets money from the government in the form of tax breaks that you should be answerable to the general public to any or all perks you get in line with your work?
    I have an issue with anyone in a position of authority accepting gifts which may affect impartiality. Garda, teachers, developers, judges, county councillors but as this thread is about gardai....

    How do you deduct from that post I get perks, or even work for a company that gets tax breaks?

    Why do you answer every question with a question












    ?


  • #389
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Boombastic wrote: »
    How do you deduct from that post I get perks, or even work for a company that gets tax breaks?

    You avoided my question so I assumed. Am I wrong to assume?


  • #390
    paraletic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭paraletic


    This thread has gotten painfully stupid!
    But I can't stop reading! I want to see how bad it gets.


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  • #391
    eirekielthy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭eirekielthy


    That's aload of crap it's like a bribe


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