Liquid nitrogen cocktails

Pyridine · 08-10-2012 03:44PM

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

I know that. It likely has been treated so not fit for human consumption. If not, then grand. But thanks for letting me know that ethanol is available from a laboratory supplier.

You misunderstand.... the 96 % which is available from Aldrich is drinkable. It is NOT treated chemically to prevent anyone from drinking it and you STILL have to pay duty on it when you buy it for your lab!

The 99 % is not. But not because it has been treated to prevent anyone form taking a sip.

BizzyC · 08-10-2012 03:44PM

The people who put that drink on the menu should be put in prison for endangerment...

Probably some twit who thought it would be a great marketing gimmick

stevenmu · 08-10-2012 03:47PM

RADIUS wrote:

Are there no restrictions on serving industrial grade chemicals in drinks in the UK/Ireland?

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

I'd be surprised if there wasn't. After all, laboratory ethanol is treated chemically so that it doesn't get taxed as heavily as ethanol destined for consumption. The bar seriously dropped the ball here.

It's quite common for beers to be pasteurised, which also removes all of the alcohol. Industrial ethanol is then added to the beer to give it it's alcohol content back.

So it's actually very common for industrial grade chemicals to be served in drinks.

And that's before you start looking at all the preservatives, stabilisers, flavour enhancers etc that go into your average mass-produced beers.

(I don't even want to think about what goes into alcopop****e)

JohnMarston · 08-10-2012 03:48PM

BizzyC wrote: »

The people who put that drink on the menu should be put in prison for endangerment...

Probably some twit who thought it would be a great marketing gimmick

Exactly. You would think they'd research the stuff before adding it to drinks.

jmayo · 08-10-2012 03:49PM

stevenmu wrote: »

It's quite common for beers to be pasteurised, which also removes all of the alcohol. Industrial ethanol is then added to the beer to give it it's alcohol content back.

So it's actually very common for industrial grade chemicals to be served in drinks.

And that's before you start looking at all the preservatives, stabilisers, flavour enhancers etc that go into your average mass-produced beers.

(I don't even want to think about what goes into alcopop****e)

Not to mention antifreeze in Austrian wine.

Plazaman · 08-10-2012 03:50PM

See one been served once but never tried one. The whole idea is for cosmetic purposes whilst the drink is being served. It appears the girl drank the cocktail before the Liquid Nitrogen had fully evaporated or whatever the hell it does. Of course this would be similar to many the eejit I've seen drinking a flaming sambuca without blowing out the flame first.

Cocktails are dangerous kids and I think the good old pint of Carlsberg is hard bet when it comes to nights out.

djk1000 · 08-10-2012 03:53PM

petersburg2002 wrote: »

Seems drastic to remove her stomach. Wonder what her long term prognosis would be? Looks like that bar will be going out of business pretty soon!

Knew a guy that had most of his stomach removed due to cancer. He was fine, but had to constantly eat very small amounts of food throughout the day to get the nutrition into him.

Emeraldy Pebbles · 08-10-2012 03:53PM

Pyridine wrote: »

You misunderstand.... the 96 % which is available from Aldrich is drinkable. It is NOT treated chemically to prevent anyone from drinking it and you STILL have to pay duty on it when you buy it for your lab!

Actually, that's not what I've read. I read it in an American college textbook, that in order for it not to be taxed heavily, it is treated. It might have changed and it may never have happened in Europe but I'm not completely pulling this from my arse! Duty would likely have to paid even if it was treated but probably not as high of duty. Anyway, that's all I've to say about that.

MadsL · 08-10-2012 03:57PM

Pyridine wrote: »

Liquid Nitrogen is INCREDIBLY toxic! I have no idea where you came up with the non-toxic bit there!

LN2 is the liquid form of a gas you are currently breathing, air is 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide...roughly.

So Liquid Nitrogen is INCREDIBLY COLD! Not INCREDIBLY toxic! However breathing 100% Nitrogen will make you go bye-bye in a euphoric state.

JohnMarston · 08-10-2012 03:59PM

Pyridine wrote: »

You misunderstand.... the 96 % which is available from Aldrich is drinkable. It is NOT treated chemically to prevent anyone from drinking it and you STILL have to pay duty on it when you buy it for your lab!

The 99 % is not. But not because it has been treated to prevent anyone form taking a sip.

Most people are smart enough to know not to drink such stuff. Going into a bar and ordering a drink should not be like playing a game of russian roulette with your life

humbert · 08-10-2012 04:10PM

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

According to the article, it can cause severe internal damage if ingested. As indeed happened to this girl.

Pyridine wrote: »

Liquid Nitrogen is INCREDIBLY toxic! I have no idea where you came up with the non-toxic bit there!

It's possible you know something about a change in it's chemical properties as a liquid that I don't but I'll need you to back that up?

Emeraldy Pebbles · 08-10-2012 04:19PM

humbert wrote: »

It's possible you know something about a change in it's chemical properties as a liquid that I don't but I'll need you to back that up?

I never it was toxic, I said it caused damage. And it did. The article backs it up.

petersburg2002 · 08-10-2012 04:29PM

djk1000 wrote: »

Knew a guy that had most of his stomach removed due to cancer. He was fine, but had to constantly eat very small amounts of food throughout the day to get the nutrition into him.

Thanks for that. Sounds life altering alright. And at only 18 years old. That's tough.

humbert · 08-10-2012 04:54PM

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

I never it was toxic, I said it caused damage. And it did. The article backs it up.

I don't really know why you quoted what I said then but fair enough.

Emeraldy Pebbles · 08-10-2012 04:56PM

humbert wrote: »

I don't really know why you quoted what I said then but fair enough.

Well, it might not be toxic but certain forms of it can cause a lot of damage. So I didn't really see the point in saying that nitrogen in non-toxic. Toxicity isn't the only thing that classifies something as hazardous.

thecornflake · 08-10-2012 05:02PM

Whats next Joe ??? Liquid He cocktails, that what Joe.

They think they're so cool.

msg11 · 08-10-2012 05:07PM

Feel sorry for the girl. Personally myself, if I heard the words 'Liquid Nitrogen and cocktail or food/beer' the alarm bells would be going off in my head that it is not something your body would want to be dealing with. I would not even know it would mess your stomach up big time but you would just get the vibe that it is not good.

So they took the girls stomach out ? How will see digest food etc.. Someone fooked up big time on this one.

humbert · 08-10-2012 05:23PM

humbert wrote: »

It's an inert molecule so not toxic. If it's used to flash freeze drinks then it would normally boil off very very quickly. However if any of it remained then it could do enormous damage as the temperature difference between it and you is around 250 degrees Celsius.

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Well, it might not be toxic but certain forms of it can cause a lot of damage. So I didn't really see the point in saying that nitrogen in non-toxic. Toxicity isn't the only thing that classifies something as hazardous.

I feel I covered that adequately.

sebastianlieken · 08-10-2012 05:25PM

I'm surprised her stomach didn't explode! Liquid nitrogen in the stomach, expanding to 37c. Nitrogen gas will expand to approx. 700 times it's liquid volume.

Liquid Nitrogen cocktails... seriously.

humbert · 08-10-2012 05:31PM

sebastianlieken wrote: »

I'm surprised her stomach didn't explode! Liquid nitrogen in the stomach, expanding to 37c. Nitrogen gas will expand to approx. 700 times it's liquid volume.

Liquid Nitrogen cocktails... seriously.

The same thought occurred to me. I'm also surprised (and glad) her oesophagus survived. Perhaps it wasn't direct contact with liquid nitrogen but a flash frozen drink might be very cold and potentially have sharp edges.

Shinaynay · 08-10-2012 05:33PM

this stuff removes warts&verucas, no fcuking way would I put it near my insides!!

hatrickpatrick · 08-10-2012 05:39PM

Wow, this is sickeningly depressing. Just turned 18 and her life could be f*cked completely, how exactly does one live with no stomach?

Hope things work out ok for her

brummytom · 08-10-2012 07:20PM

Only just seen this. The girl in the article is a good friend of my flatemate. I don't think there should be any blame put upon her. If something's served in a reputable place, why would you expect it to be unsafe?

Mimikyu · 08-10-2012 07:35PM

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juan.kerr · 08-10-2012 07:37PM

Is this more ***** like the craze of pouring vodka into your eyeballs?

Shinaynay · 08-10-2012 07:39PM

How was the club allowed sell these?!

reach for the stars · 08-10-2012 07:42PM

MadsL wrote: »

LN2 is the liquid form of a gas you are currently breathing, air is 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide...roughly.

So Liquid Nitrogen is INCREDIBLY COLD! Not INCREDIBLY toxic! However breathing 100% Nitrogen will make you go bye-bye in a euphoric state.

From what i understand there will be no euphoria because its part of our normal air,no taste ,no smell,wont even know its there just drop.body wont give all the normal reactions to suffocating on a foreign gas like
sweating,light headedness,

bbam · 08-10-2012 07:51PM

How do they manage to serve it?
It needs to be below -190c (or something like that) to remain liquid. So if it were mixed into a drink at room temperature surely the drink would freeze or it would evaporate off quickly.

bbam · 08-10-2012 07:54PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Wow, this is sickeningly depressing. Just turned 18 and her life could be f*cked completely, how exactly does one live with no stomach?

Hope things work out ok for her

Huge numbers of cancer patients go on to live fairly normal lives after having their stomachs removed. Obviously it would be better if it haddnt happened but hopefully she will still be able to manage a fairly regular life.

UglyBolloxFace · 08-10-2012 07:59PM

Pyridine wrote: »

Liquid Nitrogen is INCREDIBLY toxic! I have no idea where you came up with the non-toxic bit there!

You're wrong. In the strict sense, liquid nitrogen is not toxic. It is just nitrogen in a different state - and we all know nitrogen is non-toxic. Yes, liquid nitrogen is dangerous because it can cause tissue damage, but you are confusing the terms "toxic" and "dangerous".

Liquid nitrogen cocktails

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