What would help the Irish Language In Todays Media?

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:10PM #1

People always have mixed thoughts when it comes to this subject, some positive, some negative, and that will forever live!

If the Irish language is to succeed, what do you think would help it within the media world?And people who don't speak Irish, what are your thoughts on the language in relation to how its portrayed? Is there not enough advertisement done? Or is it the fact that there is plenty of advertisement, its just the fact that it is not done right?

Would be interested in hearing people's views on this subject.

AnonoBoy · 08-10-2012 01:11PM

People using it more.

pickarooney · 08-10-2012 01:11PM

Ban it and then revive it in America

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:13PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

People using it more.

Well people do speak it! yes would be great if we more people spoke it, but maybe you can elaborate on your comment instead of being so vague.

AnonoBoy · 08-10-2012 01:14PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

Well people do speak it! yes would be great if we more people spoke it, but maybe you can elaborate on your comment instead of being so vague.

People using it more in public.

summerskin · 08-10-2012 01:15PM

Irish porn.

I've picked up a fair bit of French, Danish and German that way over the years.

" mmmm gibt Mir deine scheisse, herr fickenmeister" seems to mean " I really love and respect you as a human being", for example...

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:16PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Ban it and then revive it in America

haha now that'd be hard work with only just over 22,000 people speaking it within the US. Good number but not enough

4zn76tysfajdxp · 08-10-2012 01:18PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

Or is it the fact that there is plenty of advertisement, its just the fact that it is not done right?

That's it. We need giveaways. "iPod Nano le chuile cúpla focail!"

humanji · 08-10-2012 01:20PM

Rename it "English".

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:21PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

People using it more in public.

and in your view, what would increase the usage of Irish in public? It is used a lot within the public, just not enough

Red Pepper · 08-10-2012 01:22PM

less spit during pronunciation.

hooradiation · 08-10-2012 01:22PM

Fire. And lots of it.

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:22PM

Dawson Huge Skunk wrote: »

That's it. We need giveaways. "iPod Nano le chuile cúpla focail!"

Ohhh if the money was there!

Neewbie_noob · 08-10-2012 01:24PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

People always have mixed thoughts when it comes to this subject, some positive, some negative, and that will forever live

If the Irish language is to succeed, what do you think would help it within the media world?And people who don't speak Irish, what are your thoughts on the language in relation to how its portrayed? Is there not enough advertisement done? Or is it the fact that there is plenty of advertisement, its just the fact that it is not done right?

Would be interested in hearing people's views on this subject.

Start teaching it properly in schools for a start.

we need to cut out things that cause people to harbour resentment towards it such as giving people "bonás pointí" for answering their "ardtheist" "as Ghaeilge".

Emeraldy Pebbles · 08-10-2012 01:24PM

What would help the Irish Language?

Letting it run its own course.

Dravokivich · 08-10-2012 01:25PM

Another thread about reviving the Irish Language.

Aside of that in all seriousness. People need to be motivated to take up something. I am not motivated to take up Irish. I've no interest in it. Actually, I have a great deal of the complete opposite of interest in the language. I can't think of any circumstances which'll make it appealing to me in anyway what so ever.

If the Irish language is to succeed, what do you think would help it within the media world?

There's already a well respected and highly acclaimed tv station. Unsure about the radio, but it does seem to be ticking along.

And people who don't speak Irish, what are your thoughts on the language in relation to how its portrayed?

I don't like that there's either an expectation one knows it, or wants to know it.

Is there not enough advertisement done? Or is it the fact that there is plenty of advertisement, its just the fact that it is not done right?

There's loads of advertisement and events, such as that "Seachtain na Geaglie" thing. As I've said before, it all comes down to motivation and the desire to learn it. You can seek out a target audience, or market to a specific base of people, but if they have no desire or want for it in the first place, that's the major hurdle to jump and all the advertisements you throw out won't make much of a difference.

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:25PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

less spit during pronunciation.

Maybe that's a problem with yerself

not so relevant though....

cml387 · 08-10-2012 01:27PM

Force people to learn it in school?
Make all the road signs bilibgual?
Have a special television channel and radio station?
Spend millions translating all documents into Irish?

MJ23 · 08-10-2012 01:30PM

Let it go. People are living in the past. It would much more beneficial to be taught European languages from an early age. What good would being able to speak Irish if you were working for a large multinational company?
Just let it go, in a few years, it'll be like Latin, only a handful of people able to speak it. And what for?

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:30PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Another thread about reviving the Irish Language.

Aside of that in all seriousness. People need to be motivated to take up something. I am not motivated to take up Irish. I've no interest in it. Actually, I have a great deal of the complete opposite of interest in the language. I can't think of any circumstances which'll make it appealing to me in anyway what so ever.

There's already a well respected and highly acclaimed tv station. Unsure about the radio, but it does seem to be ticking along.

I don't like that there's either an expectation one knows it, or wants to know it.

There's loads of advertisement and events, such as that "Seachtain na Geaglie" thing. As I've said before, it all comes down to motivation and the desire to learn it. You can seek out a target audience, or market to a specific base of people, but if they have no desire or want for it in the first place, that's the major hurdle to jump and all the advertisements you throw out won't make much of a difference.

Yes I agree, people do need to be motivated to speak the language, but its also about having information there for people to actually have general interest in the language also. Yes TG4 is ticking along, whilst Radio is doing quite well too, especially Raidió Na Life.

There is a lot of advertisement, but my question is how could you make it better? Believe it or not there are people out there that want to learn Irish from scratch, now it may not be yourself but be open to the thought that other people do.

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:30PM

cml387 wrote: »

Force people to learn it in school?
Make all the road signs bilibgual?
Have a special television channel and radio station?
Spend millions translating all documents into Irish?

obviously not a fan, but thanks for your positive input

gobnaitolunacy · 08-10-2012 01:32PM

Wonder what would happen if all the funding 'crutches' were removed?

Would it walk or fall flat on its face?

IMO the whole Seacthain na Gaelige thing is preaching to the converted. There are a few good docus on TG4 (I'll just cheat and read the subtitles) but Radio Na G has diddy diddle music and little else anytime I scan thru.

DyldeBrill · 08-10-2012 01:33PM

MJ23 wrote: »

Let it go. People are living in the past. It would much more beneficial to be taught European languages from an early age. What good would being able to speak Irish if you were working for a large multinational company?
Just let it go, in a few years, it'll be like Latin, only a handful of people able to speak it. And what for?

Why let it go when indeed it is a growing language. What about the people who speak it? Just because you don't speak it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

I never asked your views on how its thought in schools or anything like that....

Your dealing with a different argument altogether.Maybe deal with the subject in hand.

ahnowbrowncow · 08-10-2012 01:34PM

cml387 wrote: »

Force people to learn it in school?
Make all the road signs bilibgual?
Have a special television channel and radio station?
Spend millions translating all documents into Irish?

Yeah not sure what more can be done to help a language that's past it's best before date.

As someone else said let it run it's own course and stop forcing it on people.

Dravokivich · 08-10-2012 01:35PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

There is a lot of advertisement, but my question is how could you make it better? Believe it or not there are people out there that want to learn Irish from scratch, now it may not be yourself but be open to the thought that other people do.

I can only answer for myself and it was in that context that I did. Just as much as there are people with an interest to learn it from scratch, there are many people who don't like seeing it "being pushed upon them." I understand it's not always the intention, but it can be a consequence and impression that is easily picked up.

AnonoBoy · 08-10-2012 01:36PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

and in your view, what would increase the usage of Irish in public?

Prizes?

An Coilean · 08-10-2012 01:38PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

Yes I agree, people do need to be motivated to speak the language, but its also about having information there for people to actually have general interest in the language also. Yes TG4 is ticking along, whilst Radio is doing quite well too, especially Raidió Na Life.

There is a lot of advertisement, but my question is how could you make it better? Believe it or not there are people out there that want to learn Irish from scratch, now it may not be yourself but be open to the thought that other people do.

We have Seachtain na Gaeilge, but all to often that just promotes the Cúpla Focal culture, and tokenism.
I would like to see a Seachtain gan Béarla, like the campaign they run in UCD every year, people taking part refuse to speak English for the week, its along the lines of a 24 hour fast, except no English instead of no food.

That way the use of Irish would be much more visible around the country, even if only for a week.

SilverScreen · 08-10-2012 01:41PM

What would help the Irish language? Putting it out of it's misery. There's no point trying to save a dying language just for a false sense of national pride. The Irish language is about as useful as playing snooker with a rope at the moment.

Also instead of teaching kids Irish in school (and religion) more time could be given to teaching them more important stuff like science.

pablomakaveli · 08-10-2012 01:41PM

Stop trying to teach a language through the medium of ****e poetry and literature would be a good start.

cml387 · 08-10-2012 01:46PM

DyldeBrill wrote: »

obviously not a fan, but thanks for your positive input

So you only want posts supporting your point? Best of luck with that.

Dravokivich · 08-10-2012 01:47PM

An Coilean wrote: »

We have Seachtain na Gaeilge, but all to often that just promotes the Cúpla Focal culture, and tokenism.
I would like to see a Seachtain gan Béarla, like the campaign they run in UCD every year, people taking part refuse to speak English for the week, its along the lines of a 24 hour fast, except no English instead of no food.

That way the use of Irish would be much more visible around the country, even if only for a week.

This would be an example of expecting people who don't speak Irish, wanting to be able to.

Making it an exclusive event does nothing to promote it.

What would help the Irish Language In Todays Media?

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