why is Ireland so expensive?

dd972 · 06-10-2012 04:26PM #1

When you think of the infrastructure and jobs situation it rates somewhere about the level of Burnley.

If we were a country on a par with Canada or Australia even that would be understandable.

Look at the sort of nation Germany is as regards infrastructure, jobs, services, health, transport, the list goes on......and it's cheaper over there !!:eek:

ScumLord · 06-10-2012 04:26PM

We're a small island.

Casillas · 06-10-2012 04:30PM

dd972 wrote: »

When you think of the infrastructure and jobs situation it rates somewhere about the level of Burnley.

If we were a country on a par with Canada or Australia even that would be understandable.

Look at the sort of nation Germany is as regards infrastructure, jobs, services, health, transport, the list goes on......and it's cheaper over there !!:eek:

They have more tax-payers, industry etc.

Also councils have pushed up rates on business.

Things like electricity/heating etc. keep going up in price, driving down profit margins, which is rectified by increasing price.

Also we're an island so ships/planes are needed increasing transport costs, which isn't helped by high tax on fuel for trucking about the products when they arrive.

It's a mix of low populace/bad governance.

Washington Irving · 06-10-2012 04:30PM

How much do we cost?

marketty · 06-10-2012 04:31PM

Because you touch yourself at night

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 04:32PM

Simple. An exceptional appetite for greed at the top, and the attitude that those in the middle and bottom should always continue pay for this greed, no matter what.

Fishooks12 · 06-10-2012 04:32PM

Simplifying complex economics with lazy comparisons to other countries

Well done sir

mikemac1 · 06-10-2012 04:34PM

You should head over to politics forum OP

Plenty of others over there always running down this country and portraying Germany as some sort of paradise

374 euro for dole money per month may be one reason OP
It would have to be cheaper if you expect people to live on that

Dockington · 06-10-2012 04:39PM

marketty wrote: »

Because you touch yourself at night

you made me choke on my tea

Helix · 06-10-2012 04:40PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

Simple. An exceptional appetite for greed at the top, and the attitude that those in the middle and bottom should always continue pay for this greed, no matter what.

there's no more appetite for greed at the top in ireland than there is anywhere else. ireland is expensive because the wages are high, it's an island, and the people are happy to accept mediocrity because it requires less effort than doing something to demand better

ejmaztec · 06-10-2012 04:42PM

dd972 wrote: »

When you think of the infrastructure and jobs situation it rates somewhere about the level of Burnley.

If we were a country on a par with Canada or Australia even that would be understandable.

Look at the sort of nation Germany is as regards infrastructure, jobs, services, health, transport, the list goes on......and it's cheaper over there !!:eek:

Chalk and cheese.

squod · 06-10-2012 04:43PM

In before durka durr

06-10-2012 04:45PM

We are not very good at standing up for ourselves, and tend to take what we get

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 04:47PM

helix wrote:

ireland is expensive because the wages are high

There are quite a few thinly veiled shills on boards.ie that are desperate to prevent any cuts to the top or taxes for the rich.

Ordinary wages are higher, because the cost of living, after the golden circle and their crorrupt cronies get their fat cut, is much higher.

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 04:48PM

"There's no appitite for greed at the top of Ireland"

ROFL at the complete barefaced lies being spun here.

Helix · 06-10-2012 04:50PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

Ordinary wages are higher, because the cost of living, after the golden circle and their crorrupt cronies get their fat cut, is much higher.

explain that one to us, in detail, if you please

how many of those "corrupt cronies" do you reckon there are? must be hundreds of thousands of them to drive up the cost of living in the country so much. then many more hundreds of thousands of people who have no issue with it happening

Helix · 06-10-2012 04:50PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

"There's no appitite for greed at the top of Ireland"

ROFL at the complete barefaced lies being spun here.

you need to learn how to read. it said:

there's no more appetite for greed at the top in ireland than there is anywhere else

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 04:51PM

Read it and weep

http://www.tascnet.ie/upload/file/MtGC%20ISSU.pdf

Helix · 06-10-2012 04:53PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

Read it and weep

http://www.tascnet.ie/upload/file/MtGC%20ISSU.pdf

why would i weep? i dont live in ireland

so based on what that report says, you're claiming that 39 people are causing the inflated cost of living in ireland? 39 people? really?

and the irish public is letting those 39 people do it? well done, you should all be proud of yourselves

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 04:55PM

So where's your counter report ?

Helix · 06-10-2012 04:57PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

So where's your counter report ?

i wasn't aware i was required to have one

are we taking all reports to be true now? is that how it's working? they're infallible?

stink of conspiracy theorist off you

yes, ireland is corrupt, but like i said there's no more greed at the top in ireland than there is anywhere else. the difference is not those running the show, the difference is those being run. irish people won't do anything about corruption and bad governance beyond moaning a bit to their mates

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 05:00PM

You're quick enough to ask other people for detail yet typically fail to provide anything of your own.

Deny this : Are you yet another fat parasite tax exile who made his money on the backs of people in Ireland, and then fcked off before he had to pay anything ?

admiralofthefleet · 06-10-2012 05:01PM

In a business sense:

wages are high
rent is high
waste charges are high
insurance prices are high
water rates are high
gas and electricity prices are high

the list goes on

Hidalgo · 06-10-2012 05:02PM

OP compared Ireland to Australia and Canada.

One advantage both of those possess over Ireland is that both are rich in natural resources. Not much of a mining industry here compared to both of those.
These minerals/natural resources help create employment as well as bring in taxes etc which leaves both less vulnerable to what happens internationally. While the prices may rise and fall that they get for their resources,
they still got em

Helix · 06-10-2012 05:04PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

You're quick enough to ask other people for detail yet typically fail to provide anything of your own.

Deny this : Are you yet another fat parasite tax exile who made his money on the backs of people in Ireland, and then fcked off before he had to pay anything ?

bit of a leading question that isnt it? no im someone who left ireland at 26 after getting fed up with the lack of action by the irish people to actually do anything constructive to fix the country. i wasn't going to be raising my kids there, nor did i see any kind of future for productivity or creativity in the country. while i was in ireland i was never unemployed a day, never took anything from the state in terms of benefits, paid my taxes, saved until i could get out, and left like anyone with any common sense

shame on me for not buying a house there during the boom i suppose?

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 05:06PM

Still waiting for your detailed counter report on the golden cirlce . . . looks like we'll be waiting

Duggys Housemate · 06-10-2012 05:08PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

Still waiting for your detailed counter report on the golden cirlce . . . looks like we'll be waiting

You have to prove they push up prices? Are they buying all the food. I find Ireland about the same cost as the UK

Jellicoe · 06-10-2012 05:09PM

Some of us would rather expose the failings and corruption in Ireland so that they can be dealt with rather than slink off to another country and take smug pot shots from there.

Ted_YNWA · 06-10-2012 05:10PM

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

How much do we cost?

bout three fiddy

Logical Fallacy · 06-10-2012 05:11PM

dd972 wrote: »

When you think of the infrastructure and jobs situation it rates somewhere about the level of Burnley.

If we were a country on a par with Canada or Australia even that would be understandable.

Look at the sort of nation Germany is as regards infrastructure, jobs, services, health, transport, the list goes on......and it's cheaper over there !!:eek:

Economics of scale.

Helix · 06-10-2012 05:17PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

Some of us would rather expose the failings and corruption in Ireland so that they can be dealt with rather than slink off to another country and take smug pot shots from there.

posting a pdf someone else wrote isn't exposing anything. it's posting a bloody link. im terribly sorry if i don't have the time to compile an in depth analysis of the country's problems, but having lived there for 26 years im fairly well versed in the "ah sure it'll do" attitude that greatly magnifies any governance issues. if something is too expensive, don't buy it. if it doesn't sell, prices will drop. the 39 fat cats in that report you hold so dear are able to make so much money because people will pay whatever they're told to in ireland. they'll complain about it, they'll bitch and moan, but they'll do absolutely nothing to actually stop people who are overcharging making money

why is Ireland so expensive?

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