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Child Allowance - What's it there for ?

  • 05-10-2012 09:23PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭


    Or as they call it in Germany "Kindergeld"

    Ireland has the highest birthrate in the EU.

    Germany has the lowest birthrate in the EU.

    In Germany they give child benefit to encourage people to have children, this is to combat issues with pensions in later years when you don't have enough young people contributing into the system to pay for the pensioners.

    In Ireland they give Child benefit to .......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭foxy06


    Or as they call it in Germany "Kindergeld"

    Ireland has the highest birthrate in the EU.

    Germany has the lowest birthrate in the EU.

    In Germany they give child benefit to encourage people to have children, this is to combat issues with pensions in later years when you don't have enough young people contributing into the system to pay for the pensioners.

    In Ireland they give Child benefit to .......

    Give people in after hours something to moan about


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Our birth rate is dropping, and is down this year again compared to last year.
    These children will be paying your pension, so be nice to them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭noxqs


    To encourage a high birth rate. As the pension scheme is basically arrange as a pyramid scheme that can only work if you get more new tax payers in at the bottom as the top refuses to die and grow older, you need a pretty high birth rate to maintain it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    It's so you can buy your child what they need. Clothes, food and other things that would take forever to mention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    The clue is in the title.....??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    I know this one - it's to pay the finance on the second car apparently - according to a lad I spoke to yesterday. People come in to buy a car based on how much they can afford from the Childrens allowance. Was a new one on me too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    my holiday 2weeks in the sunshine away from the children :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    In Ireland they give Child benefit to .......

    ....to help with the costs associated with raising children? :confused:

    Is this a trick question?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Pottler wrote: »
    I know this one - it's to pay the finance on the second car apparently - according to a lad I spoke to yesterday. People come in to buy a car based on how much they can afford from the Childrens allowance. Was a new one on me too.

    €140 per month gets you a pretty **** car to be honest, what was it, a 98 Punto?

    Feck, that wouldnt even get tou a decent CBoardman bike on the drip :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Or as they call it in Germany "Kindergeld"

    Ireland has the highest birthrate in the EU.

    Germany has the lowest birthrate in the EU.

    In Germany they give child benefit to encourage people to have children, this is to combat issues with pensions in later years when you don't have enough young people contributing into the system to pay for the pensioners.

    In Ireland they give Child benefit to
    .......

    Help the parents pay for the unbelievable expense involved in raising a child in Ireland.

    Yes, not all parents need it, hence why I believe it should be means tested, but when a family on middle income, mortgage swallowing half of one salary, the other salary reduced due yo maternity pay, that child benefit doesn't half come inn handy.

    Incidentally, this child, may hopefully one day become a wage earning tax payer, where they'll put in a lot more than was taken out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    For people to spend on taxis. I love kids.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Boombastic wrote: »
    my holiday 2weeks in the sunshine away from the children :cool:

    I think the fact that the OP is thanking these kind of responces, shows us what kind of thread he wants, i suppose it is AH afterall.


    heres one for ya

    "I use it to go out drinking"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    noxqs wrote: »
    To encourage a high birth rate. As the pension scheme is basically arrange as a pyramid scheme that can only work if you get more new tax payers in at the bottom as the top refuses to die and grow older, you need a pretty high birth rate to maintain it.

    Fock sake ... maybe we should rename Ireland to YAPS (Yet Another Pyramid Scheme)

    :pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    20 quid to pay jacinta from down de road to watch Corey and Jayden while I spend de other 250 trying to find dem a new da in coppers


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I think it is so there so that dead beat parents have enough money for drink and cigarettes.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Fock sake ... maybe we should rename Ireland to YAPS (Yet Another Pyramid Scheme)

    :pac::pac::pac::pac:

    And Afetr Hours to YAST (Yet Another Shit Thread) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭samina


    Pottler wrote: »
    I know this one - it's to pay the finance on the second car apparently - according to a lad I spoke to yesterday. People come in to buy a car based on how much they can afford from the Childrens allowance. Was a new one on me too.

    I actually know a couple of people who pay their car finance with it. Both would still get it if it were means tested but that's for another thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Help the parents pay for the unbelievable expense involved in raising a child in Ireland.

    Yes, not all parents need it, hence why I believe it should be means tested, but when a family on middle income, mortgage swallowing half of one salary, the other salary reduced due yo maternity pay, that child benefit doesn't half come inn handy.

    Incidentally, this child, may hopefully one day become a wage earning tax payer, where they'll put in a lot more than was taken out.

    Well .. yeh .. but tbh I wouldn't have kids until I was in a position to support them financially without relying on some sort of state aid.

    I mean its not like we live in the US or the UK where they have crazy fees for education :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭EdanHewittt


    In Ireland they give Child benefit to .......

    Yummy Mummies of such high regard for brands they will happily fork out €3.50 for a four pack of overly priced, Mini Munch Bunch yogurts for their kids.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I mean its not like we live in the US or the UK where they have crazy fees for education :confused:

    seriously, are you trolling?
    Maybe you should also read up on childcare and school costs before you have that child too ;)
    samina wrote: »
    I actually know a couple of people who pay their car finance with it. Both would still get it if it were means tested but that's for another thread!

    im sure their kids are well looked after using their monthly wages though?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭EdanHewittt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    So that single mothers can go out an get 6 cans for 10 quid every day and 20 John blue and maybe bit of blow or somethin or maybe that's just in Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Well .. yeh .. but tbh I wouldn't have kids until I was in a position to support them financially without relying on some sort of state aid.

    I mean its not like we live in the US or the UK where they have crazy fees for education :confused:
    In fairness you can be spending over a grand per kid to send them to secondary now because of ridiculous book and uniform prices. And don't even get me started on 'voluntary contributions'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    it should be scrapped, and another method, say those unemployed getting so much extra per child, and those on the lower wage be allowed tax breaks and gp visits and a certain percent on prescriotion,

    it is gone out of proportion,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Bustler


    Children are not legally allowed to work or earn money. As a result, children's allowance is essentially a state benefit paid to children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Well .. yeh .. but tbh I wouldn't have kids until I was in a position to support them financially without relying on some sort of state aid.

    I mean its not like we live in the US or the UK where they have crazy fees for education :confused:

    In the UK and the north, its generally free education you know?
    This includes school transport, (for all pupils)

    and free school dinners for some pupils, heavily subsidised for the others. (depending if the parents are on sw or low earners)

    They also don't pay each time they bring the new baby to see the doctor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I put it in my kid's Post Office account. At the current rate, by the time she's 16, there'll be around €26k in savings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    buster thinks it is the babies wages,

    that is why they have parents, who are supposed to work to feed clothe and educate them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    kceire wrote: »
    €140 per month gets you a pretty **** car to be honest, what was it, a 98 Punto?

    Feck, that wouldnt even get tou a decent CBoardman bike on the drip :D
    Try having more kids.:D €280.00 - now you're getting there:D I was actually surprised at this myself, but apparently it's what a lot of people do, change the car using the kiddie-dough. Like I said, new one on me, but very common apparently.. lad was a salesman in a Toyota garage btw and not a spoofer either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I put it in my kid's Post Office account. At the current rate, by the time she's 16, there'll be around 26k in savings.

    Are post office accounts still a thing?


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