How Ireland treats its Asylum Seekers exposed by the Guardian

Chinasea · 04-10-2012 06:47PM #1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/asylum-seekers-ireland-magdalene-laundries

The above link is from The Guardian outlining the hideous way we manage the asylum seekers that end up on our shores. I find it shameful. In particular the paragraph I have extracted below.

Unable to access education, employment or frequently even to cook for themselves, asylum-seekers are accommodated and fed, and granted an adult weekly allowance of €19.10 (rates that have not changed in real terms since their introduction over a decade ago).

Hande hoche! · 04-10-2012 06:51PM

The Guardian is gospel?

mgbgt1978 · 04-10-2012 06:53PM

Perhaps they should seek asylum in any one of the dozens of countries they passed over/through on their way here.....
Apart from that UK Guardian readers are considered very, very xenophobic so it would seem odd that this particular paper is attempting to make a case for asylum seekers.

feelpablo · 04-10-2012 06:53PM

seems to be more about the laundrys....which all asylum seekers would be provided with!

davet82 · 04-10-2012 06:54PM

sure are they not all havin a grand aul time down in mosney

humbert · 04-10-2012 06:54PM

It's a rather maudlin piece but the speed at which applications are processed is very difficult to justify, particularly since it must be costing the state an absolute fortune.

Run_to_da_hills · 04-10-2012 06:54PM

I would have little pity for those that are continuously coming over here looking for opportunities when they know that the country is currently in bits.

smash · 04-10-2012 06:55PM

Free food, somewhere to live and a bit of cash.... They get enough!

Mr McBoatface · 04-10-2012 06:55PM

They are fed and accommodated, most claim they come from hell like places so food and relatively safe accommodation must be like heaven for them, what's the problem?

latenia · 04-10-2012 06:56PM

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Apart from that UK Guardian readers are considered very, very xenophobic so it would seem odd that this particular paper is attempting to make a case for asylum seekers.

Another well informed individual

Cossax · 04-10-2012 06:57PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would have little pity for those that are continuously coming over here looking for opportunities when they know that the country is currently in bits.

Someone obviously doesn't understand the asylum process.

Youssef Chippo · 04-10-2012 06:58PM

I wonder what an Irish person would get off say the Nigerian Government if they decided to turn up in their country.

I can guarantee they wouldn't get free housing, free food, free electricity, free heating, free clothes and €19.10 p/w like they do here. They should all be shipped back to wherever they came from.

davet82 · 04-10-2012 06:59PM

who else has 20 euro left over after food light heat and rent these days?

asherbassad · 04-10-2012 06:59PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The Guardian is gospel?

No, the Guardian is the truth.
Everything in the Bible, gospels included, is bullsh!t :pac:

Lumbo · 04-10-2012 07:00PM

Youssef Chippo wrote: »

I wonder what an Irish person would get off say the Nigerian Government if they decided to turn up in their country.

I can guarantee they wouldn't get free housing, free food, free electricity, free heating, free clothes and €19.10 p/w like they do here. They should all be shipped back to wherever they came from.

Bertie gets €40grand for a few hours work.

04-10-2012 07:00PM

Chinasea wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/asylum-seekers-ireland-magdalene-laundries

The above link is from The Guardian outlining the hideous way we manage the asylum seekers that end up on our shores. I find it shameful. In particular the paragraph I have extracted below.

Unable to access education, employment or frequently even to cook for themselves, asylum-seekers are accommodated and fed, and granted an adult weekly allowance of €19.10 (rates that have not changed in real terms since their introduction over a decade ago).

Walk around O'Connell street at 3pm any week day and look at the amount of Africans hanging around the gpo in brand new clothes and 150 euro Nike runners, I call bull****. They must do shift work :rolleyes:

feelpablo · 04-10-2012 07:02PM

Ricky Whining Fig wrote: »

Walk around O'Connell street at 3pm and look at the amount of Africans in brand new clothes and 150 euro Nike runners I call bull****. They must do shift work :rolleyes:

Sure all Africans are asylum seekers...... oh oh oh are us Paddy's not all alcho's too!!!!

wp_rathead · 04-10-2012 07:03PM

afraid no point posting this in AH chinasea

mikemac1 · 04-10-2012 07:04PM

humbert wrote: »

the speed at which applications are processed is very difficult to justify, particularly since it must be costing the state an absolute fortune.

True

It could be helped if you got your case heard and then one appeal and then that was that

That Pamela Izevbekhai from Sligo went through 4 sets of lawyers and years of appeals with her forged documents and her many lies

If you keep letting people appeal no wonder it takes years to make a decision

Boombastic · 04-10-2012 07:04PM

The article didn't mention the amount of money spent on prams, therefore I don't believe a word of it. They're all up in mosney having great craic, bad a all drogheda is it's better than being in a warzone & they make plenty of money busking on the main street:)

Nodin · 04-10-2012 07:05PM

Ricky Whining Fig wrote: »

Walk around O'Connell street at 3pm any week day and look at the amount of Africans hanging around the gpo in brand new clothes and 150 euro Nike runners, I call bull****. They must do shift work :rolleyes:

...all Africans are asylum seekers waiting to be processed now?

PapaQuebec · 04-10-2012 07:05PM

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Perhaps they should seek asylum in any one of the dozens of countries they passed over/through on their way here.....
Apart from that UK Guardian readers are considered very, very xenophobic so it would seem odd that this particular paper is attempting to make a case for asylum seekers.

You obviously dont read the Grauniad regularly!

I read the article last night via the Grauns iPhone app - dreadful soppy piece - and an insult to all those who endured the Magdalene laundries!

Boombastic · 04-10-2012 07:06PM

Nodin wrote: »

...all Africans are asylum seekers waiting to be processed now?

Not all, the others are waiting on their appeal to be heard;)

Nodin · 04-10-2012 07:07PM

PapaQuebec wrote: »

You obviously dont read the Grauniad regularly!

I read the article last night via the Grauns iPhone app - dreadful soppy piece - and an insult to all those who endured the Magdalene laundries!

Well you would say that, wouldn't you.

bbam · 04-10-2012 07:09PM

Youssef Chippo wrote: »

They should all be shipped back to wherever they came from.

No.
The cases found not to be genuine should be sent back.. the decision process just needs to speed up. Seriously some of these people need our help, surely we're not so inward looking that we can't see that.

04-10-2012 07:09PM

feelpablo wrote: »

Sure all Africans are asylum seekers...... oh oh oh are us Paddy's not all alcho's too!!!!

I would imagine 90% enter claiming asylum regardless of what part of Africa they are from.

walrusgumble · 04-10-2012 07:10PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The Guardian is gospel?

I have not read the piece, and to be honest have no intentions of doing so.

However, from what was stated by posters are factually true. They only get e19. But, they do get free accommodation. However, some places are utter dumps not fit for habitation, this has been proven! Some places have been closed down.some business have made loads of money providing for these places,at expense of the taxpayer, yet utterly failed in their duties. Some places are decent however, Limerick is suppose to be ok. They do get some travel expenses to see their doctors and lawyers, they get legal aid for some legal matters, they do get medical cards.

The major problem is the length of time one goes through th process, from entry, to appeals, to High Court (legitimate cases) and subsidiary protection cases. Geniune people may take 4 year to go through the process and even more.make worse, Fo those who are not in need of assistance that is 4 years o more o free living an delaying the inevitable.

However, the work proposal is utterly ridiculous! Goodbye to ever getting the. Them out of the country when they fail their cases. Asylum is for protection not for cheats.to get into the country illegally in order to work. Solve th problem by quicker processing by actual competent staff. No delays, less whinging.

While by all means their human right must be protected, it is rather funny, considering many o these precious people ha little or no comforts back in their country are complaining about food and provision of services.

Guardian, what a bunch of parasites. They would be better off focusing on their own country's system and work on stopping so many of them entering Ireland via Belfast (common route) Britain too have problems in this area.

wp_rathead · 04-10-2012 07:10PM

Ricky Whining Fig wrote: »

Walk around O'Connell street at 3pm any week day and look at the amount of Africans hanging around the gpo in brand new clothes and 150 euro Nike runners, I call bull****. They must do shift work :rolleyes:

ffs
so what, black people automatically equal asylum seekers?
even though I know to expect it, still amazes me how these threads manage to bring out the knuckledraggers

bbam · 04-10-2012 07:13PM

Ricky Whining Fig wrote: »

Walk around O'Connell street at 3pm any week day and look at the amount of Africans hanging around the gpo in brand new clothes and 150 euro Nike runners, I call bull****. They must do shift work :rolleyes:

This being AH I'm not a bit surprised by this post.. It's still a seriously ignorant, arrogant and downright racist post. Something really to be ashamed off.

smash · 04-10-2012 07:13PM

wprathead wrote: »

ffs
so what, black people automatically equal asylum seekers?
even though I know to expect it, still amazes me how these threads manage to bring out the knuckledraggers

I've met loads of Nigerian princes through email.

walrusgumble · 04-10-2012 07:15PM

Ricky Whining Fig wrote: »

Chinasea wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/asylum-seekers-ireland-magdalene-laundries

The above link is from The Guardian outlining the hideous way we manage the asylum seekers that end up on our shores. I find it shameful. In particular the paragraph I have extracted below.

Unable to access education, employment or frequently even to cook for themselves, asylum-seekers are accommodated and fed, and granted an adult weekly allowance of €19.10 (rates that have not changed in real terms since their introduction over a decade ago).

Walk around O'Connell street at 3pm any week day and look at the amount of Africans hanging around the gpo in brand new clothes and 150 euro Nike runners, I call bull****. They must do shift work :rolleyes:

Careful, they might be legal residents via our lovely Irish born child rule back in the day.( whether they are Irish, or their sibling is) They may no longer be asylum seekers.

So if they or mammy work,thus what they were is none of our business, however if Mr social welfare funds such tastes ......

XWho knows they might be fake Nike......

How Ireland treats its Asylum Seekers exposed by the Guardian

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