Garda Catch Brothers with €20000 worth of bikes

safetyboy · 04-10-2012 10:34AM #1

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/1004/1224324837949.html

So do we get our bikes back now, is there any way of checking the bikes?

AGC · 04-10-2012 10:38AM

The worrying thing is the suspended sentances in both cases.

If you walked into a bank and stole 20k im sure you would be looking at more than a suspended sentance.

Not much of a deterrent

buffalo · 04-10-2012 10:38AM

I imagine if you've already reported your bike as stolen to the Gardaí and given them the serial number, they'll have been in touch.

If the sentencing is happening now, the bikes must've been recovered a while ago, right?

Roddy23 · 04-10-2012 10:39AM

I can't believe that sh1t. Suspended sentences after been caught with €20,000 worth of stolen goods. No deterrent for these scumbags out robbing off hard working people. Having had a few bikes robbed from me over the years this really boils my blood.

safetyboy · 04-10-2012 10:41AM

Yeah I reported it with serial, there must be a lot of bikes to go through though, fingers crossed.

seamus · 04-10-2012 10:41AM

€20k worth of bikes and posing as wholesalers - are these possibly the guys who stole the shipment of bikes to cycle superstore a while back?

I can't see two guys trying to pass off €20k of stolen second-hand bikes as "wholesale".

Hermy · 04-10-2012 10:45AM

...both have clean criminal records...

What the fup does that mean?

buffalo · 04-10-2012 10:47AM

Hermy wrote: »

What the fup does that mean?

They were only involved in money laundering.

GEDDIT? Clean... laundering? I made a funny!

Lusk Doyle · 04-10-2012 10:51AM

buffalo wrote: »

They were only involved in money laundering.

GEDDIT? Clean... laundering? I made a funny!

No you didn't

Junior · 04-10-2012 11:38AM

So of the 3 of them that were convicted, if the brothers weren't the ring leaders who the f**k was ?

cup of tea · 04-10-2012 11:41AM

Junior wrote: »

So of the 3 of them that were convicted, if the brothers weren't the ring leaders who the f**k was ?

Gardaí are having a tough time figuring out who the wheels of the operation was.

super_furry · 04-10-2012 11:43AM

€20,000 worth of theft and they avoid jail? Mental.

ckeego · 04-10-2012 12:19PM

super_furry wrote: »

€20,000 worth of theft and they avoid jail? Mental.

....And the guy importing the garlic gets 6 years...World gone mad.:mad:

dited · 04-10-2012 12:56PM

ckeego wrote: »

....And the guy importing the garlic gets 6 years...World gone mad.:mad:

Same judge in both cases :rolleyes:

Lumen · 04-10-2012 01:08PM

Property crime, first offence, not surprised they got suspended sentences.

A suspended sentence isn't being let off. You have a criminal record and if you get caught again you're going down.

People also avoid jail for quite serious offences against the person. Get some perspective!

Wibbs · 04-10-2012 01:35PM

Lumen wrote: »

Get some perspective!

Fcuk all to do with "perspective" L, everything to do with the regularity of daft sentences for all sorts of crimes handed down by wooly headed judges. Never mind the lack of consistency at times. The list is long. This judge let another bloke off who was involved in the same case last year too. As AGC noted "If you walked into a bank and stole 20k im sure you would be looking at more than a suspended sentence". And yes in actuality a suspended sentence is for all intents and purposes being let off.

I wonder how many bikes were involved? They say "high end bikes". Is this journo speak for any racer with red stripes and a price tag over 300 quid or are we talking 4 5 grand bikes?

Mycroft H · 04-10-2012 01:40PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Fcuk all to do with "perspective" L, everything to do with the regularity of daft sentences for all sorts of crimes handed down by wooly headed judges. Never mind the lack of consistency at times. The list is long. This judge let another bloke off who was involved in the same case last year too. As AGC noted "If you walked into a bank and stole 20k im sure you would be looking at more than a suspended sentence". And yes in actuality a suspended sentence is for all intents and purposes being let off.

I wonder how many bikes were involved? They say "high end bikes". Is this journo speak for any racer with red stripes and a price tag over 300 quid or are we talking 4 5 grand bikes?

Totally agree.

There is no punishment here at all, a criminal record means nothing to these scum. Should have been a 12 months minimum sentence

muckwarrior · 04-10-2012 01:44PM

I hope that Judge has all of his earthly belongings stolen.

Hungrycol · 04-10-2012 01:57PM

Suspended sentence? Woohoo, let the highend bike nicking commence.

Beasty I've had my eye on your "nice" bike for a while now

doozerie · 04-10-2012 02:13PM

As Lumen says, a suspended sentence is not being let off. Good luck to anyone trying to get a job with a criminal record, for example, it's not something that'll endear you to a potential employer. You may disagree with the severity of the sentence, but just because someone doesn't end up in jail does not mean the the convicted person walks away scot free.

Not to mention the fact that if everyone that ever got a suspended sentence was actually put in jail instead, how quickly would the already packed jails reach bursting point? And how much would our taxes have to increase by to fund keeping them all there? Etc.

Qualitymark · 04-10-2012 02:17PM

Maybe the ringleaders were drug pedalers?

If people are cross about the suspended sentences, what about a bike demo outside the courts, if there are several different examples of suspended sentences for this? (Three mentioned so far here - the two brothers and one other.)

Meanwhile, presumably the Gardaí will be keeping an eye on the Brothers Sava from now on, and if they happen to accidentally take the wrong bicycle home with them they'll be in the slammer.

Bunnyhopper · 04-10-2012 02:17PM

The Indo has a bit more information:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-louth-brothers-avoid-jail-terms-3249205.html

mickdw · 04-10-2012 02:20PM

Do you honestly think these type of people are worried about a record or not being very employable?
They are not going to be looking for a job anytime soon.
To me or any other normal citizen, a suspended sentence would be a big punishment but to your typical scumbag, a suspended sentence = got away with it.

Mycroft H · 04-10-2012 02:20PM

doozerie wrote: »

As Lumen says, a suspended sentence is not being let off. Good luck to anyone trying to get a job with a criminal record, for example, it's not something that'll endear you to a potential employer. You may disagree with the severity of the sentence, but just because someone doesn't end up in jail does not mean the the convicted person walks away scot free.

As I said, most of these scum don't care about a criminal record. They'll have other illegal sources of income, it's going to be of very little inconvenience to them.

EDIT: mick bet me to it.

DipStick McSwindler · 04-10-2012 02:20PM

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Hungrycol · 04-10-2012 02:31PM

Bunnyhopper wrote: »

The Indo has a bit more information:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-louth-brothers-avoid-jail-terms-3249205.html

€120 for a brand new (stolen) bike still in it's wrapper! The thieves who stole my hacker bike earlier this year probably only got €2 if that's the case!

buffalo · 04-10-2012 02:33PM

Bunnyhopper wrote: »

The Indo has a bit more information:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-louth-brothers-avoid-jail-terms-3249205.html

Judge Martin Nolan sentenced Constantin to two years suspended and Paul to five years suspended after noting both have clean criminal records and were not the ringleaders.

Last March Judge Nolan gave a suspended sentence to Raymond Kearney (40) of Preston Park, Julianstown, County Meath for the same offence. He was identified in court as the leader of the operation.

And according to http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-sold-stolen-bicycles-to-clear-debt-3053451.html

A MAN who was selling stolen bicycles worth a total of €25,000 so he could clear his debts has been given a five-year suspended sentence, writes Nicola Donnelly.

Raymond Kearney (40) and two accomplices got the 54 Trek bicycles after they were stolen from Central Limited at Bluebell Industrial Estate in Dublin.

So two guys get suspended sentences because they're not the ringleaders, but the guy who is the ringleader also gets a suspended sentence?

super_furry · 04-10-2012 02:33PM

I very much doubt that people that are involved in that level of criminal enterprise are all that bothered about their employability.

greenmat · 04-10-2012 02:46PM

Deport the F**kers.

Lumen · 04-10-2012 02:58PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Fcuk all to do with "perspective" L, everything to do with the regularity of daft sentences for all sorts of crimes handed down by wooly headed judges

There are limited spaces in jail. The judges are not responsible for building and staffing jails. If the jails are filled with people done for property crimes, that means the judges have to "let off" people who committed serious crimes against the person.

DipStick McSwindler · 04-10-2012 03:03PM

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Garda Catch Brothers with €20000 worth of bikes

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