Hi-tech CCTV can recognise faces from half a mile away.

eth0 · 03-10-2012 11:41PM

cronin_j wrote: »

If your doing nothing wrong whats the harm? CCTV caught the guy who killed Jill in Melbourne for example.

Everyone does something wrong, also the definition of 'wrong' changes according to politician's whims.

Duggy747 · 03-10-2012 11:41PM

CCTV was quite handy in apprehending the scum during the London riots last year.

partyatmygaff · 03-10-2012 11:49PM

eth0 wrote: »

The guard might not give a damn but this thing will most likely create a record of where you've been spotted. Which would be fierce handy for anyone trying to "build a case" against you for whatever reason.

That sounds completely ridiculous.

If somebody wanted to "build a case against you for whatever reason" they'd send someone out to film you rather than rely on CCTV. Not only that but being spotted in one of the many public locations that a CCTV camera points at isn't enough to make a case against anyone of doing anything.

eth0 · 03-10-2012 11:51PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

That sounds completely ridiculous.

If somebody wanted to "build a case against you for whatever reason" they'd send someone out to film you rather than rely on CCTV. Not only that but being spotted in one of the many public locations that a CCTV camera points at isn't enough to make a case against anyone of doing anything.

If they have enough cameras as they do in England then that saves them a whole lot of bother, and means they can afford to build a whole lot more cases against people

Wee Willy Harris · 03-10-2012 11:54PM

And that, is why I keep my head down and just ignore em.

Cos they can speak too you know... or whatever sad bastard; it is watching every step of my 5 mile route in case I stop for breath aka 'loiter'. That's what it's coming to, fitted with speakers and mics

woodoo · 03-10-2012 11:55PM

I would be happy to see those cameras on every street corner. It would keep a good eye on the riff raff.

Capt'n Midnight · 03-10-2012 11:59PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"High–definition CCTV cameras that can identify and track faces from half–a–mile away could turn Britain into a Big Brother society if left unregulated, the first surveillance commissioner has warned.

Biggins wrote: »

I've been in a Louth Garda station CCTV room and I can say that similar cameras can possess same high quality resolution/clarity.

Well back in the 80's it was accepted that the British Army Cameras could read car reg plates in Dundalk.

Also software can ID people from body language so they don't even need to see your face. And besides almost all of us carry personal tracking devices.

GalwayGuy2 · 04-10-2012 12:01AM

If they have enough cameras as they do in England then that saves them a whole lot of bother, and means they can afford to build a whole lot more cases against people

And open themselves up to a crazy amount of crap, privacy, freedom, etc.

or whatever sad bastard; it is watching every step of my 5 mile route in case I stop for breath aka 'loiter'. That's what it's coming to, fitted with speakers and mics

an angry east-London accent would get anybody moving:P

Wee Willy Harris · 04-10-2012 12:03AM

It's fantastic tech; no doubt but when used for impervious means to the point of voyeurism it just makes willy wilt

partyatmygaff · 04-10-2012 12:04AM

eth0 wrote: »

If they have enough cameras as they do in England then that saves them a whole lot of bother, and means they can afford to build a whole lot more cases against people

I'm sure the British police are recruiting more officers for their "case-making unit" dedicated to watching the entire country via CCTV cameras for the sole purpose of "building cases" against random people.

On CCTV, a person not breaking any laws is no more than background noise, easily tuned out if you've been watching for a while.

I really don't see the issue or need for concern. They're not installing CCTV cameras in people's homes, they're installing CCTV cameras in the public places they're meant to police.

Rigol · 04-10-2012 12:19AM

Sure the number plate readers have long been used here anyway by the Garda traffic unit.
I got pulled over by a garda car with one days after I had bought a car, hadn't taxed it yet, so their database is pretty sharp.

eth0 · 04-10-2012 12:33AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

I'm sure the British police are recruiting more officers for their "case-making unit" dedicated to watching the entire country via CCTV cameras for the sole purpose of "building cases" against random people.

On CCTV, a person not breaking any laws is no more than background noise, easily tuned out if you've been watching for a while.

I really don't see the issue or need for concern. They're not installing CCTV cameras in people's homes, they're installing CCTV cameras in the public places they're meant to police.

Wouldn't put it past them, they were on about putting cameras in the homes of parents with 'troublesome' children a while back when Labour was still in power. They are also known to hassle people who attend protests and what have you

Capt'n Midnight · 04-10-2012 12:51AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

On CCTV, a person not breaking any laws is no more than background noise, easily tuned out if you've been watching for a while.

Every one breaks laws. Egro someone who doesn't break any laws is suspect.

Capt'n Midnight · 04-10-2012 01:45AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16358851

US Army unveils 1.8 gigapixel camera helicopter drone
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The army said that was enough to track people and vehicles from altitudes above 20,000 feet (6.1km) across almost 65 square miles (168 sq km).

In addition, operators on the ground can select up to 65 steerable "windows" following separate targets to be "stared at". Vehicles, people and other objects can be tracked even if they move in different directions.

Sindri · 04-10-2012 01:55AM

bobmac27 wrote: »

It is funny how Orwell 's book was set in 1984 and London. This is how it is playing out.

I lol'd. The "playing out bit" coupled with the "1984" bit was funji. The "and London" bit makes the sentence all the more significant and accurate in such a way that it could not possibly be conceived as in any way nonfactual.

FanadMan · 04-10-2012 03:30AM

.........Holds up sign saying "Hi Mum"

Davidth88 · 04-10-2012 08:40AM

I bet if your car/bike or whatever is stolen , the camera will still be ' pointing the wrong way ' , or ' sorry we didn't pick that up '

CCTV ......waste of time if you are mugged etc , somehow it never works.

On a separate note, I once did a project working with the guys who developed the facial recognition stuff developed for the British Gvmt ... it was pretty amazing stuff . We used it in set top boxes so if you were watching a film and you couldn't remember a actors' name you could use it to search the net for other films etc with the same person in it.

It worked amazingly well.

wendell borton · 04-10-2012 10:26AM

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

And that, is why I keep my head down and just ignore em.

Cos they can speak too you know... or whatever sad bastard; it is watching every step of my 5 mile route in case I stop for breath aka 'loiter'. That's what it's coming to, fitted with speakers and mics

:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al8rm3nX_80&t=1m51s

Run_to_da_hills · 04-10-2012 10:33AM

Davidth88 wrote: »

I bet if your car/bike or whatever is stolen , the camera will still be ' pointing the wrong way ' , or ' sorry we didn't pick that up '

CCTV ......waste of time if you are mugged etc , somehow it never works.

On a separate note, I once did a project working with the guys who developed the facial recognition stuff developed for the British Gvmt ... it was pretty amazing stuff . We used it in set top boxes so if you were watching a film and you couldn't remember a actors' name you could use it to search the net for other films etc with the same person in it.

It worked amazingly well.

Facial Recognition System Checks 50% Of World's Population In 90 Seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiFx39WHYlI

Hi-tech CCTV can recognise faces from half a mile away.

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