Hi-tech CCTV can recognise faces from half a mile away.

Run_to_da_hills · 03-10-2012 06:56PM #1

Interesting article and nothing that some of us already know about.

"High–definition CCTV cameras that can identify and track faces from half–a–mile away could turn Britain into a Big Brother society if left unregulated, the first surveillance commissioner has warned.

Andrew Rennison said new technology was being rolled out without public consultation.

It is so intrusive that Britain may be in breach of human rights laws, he warned, and most people are ignorant of how sophisticated technology has become.

"The technology has overtaken our ability to regulate it," Mr Rennison said. ""I'm convinced that if we don't regulate it properly - ie the technological ability to use millions of images we capture - there will be a huge public backlash. It is the Big Brother scenario playing out large. It's the ability to pick out your face in a crowd from a camera which is probably half a mile away."

The former police officer said he was concerned about high-definition cameras "popping up all over the place". He said the Home Office research into facial recognition had reached a 90 per cent success rate and it is improving by the day".

The actual clip art CCTV cam in the article is incorrectly illustrated and misleading, it is the old fashioned conventional type that are becoming almost obsolete.

These are the ones to be concerned about. . They are now appeared perched stands alone on poles at nearly every major intersection in Dublin and other cities and towns.

These cameras can fully pan, tilt and zoom 360°, can be fully upgradable to distant facial recognition and ANPR. (Automatic number plate recognition) They are the exact same type of cameras that are used on police surveylance vehicles at demonstrations.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9583251/Hi-tech-CCTV-can-recognise-faces-from-half-a-mile-away.html

srsly78 · 03-10-2012 06:58PM

Tin foil balaclava - sorted.

Youssef Chippo · 03-10-2012 06:58PM

But this is Ireland not Britain so therefore I don't give a fiddlers

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 03-10-2012 06:58PM

I have a pair of binos that can do that.

Ellis Dee · 03-10-2012 06:59PM

Since you're almost always on camera, you'd better keep smiling!:):):):)

Nodin · 03-10-2012 07:00PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Interesting article and nothing that some of us already know about.

"High–definition CCTV cameras that can identify and track faces from half–a–mile away .......................

...they'll easily see you waving your lad at them then so.

Biggins · 03-10-2012 07:06PM

Youssef Chippo wrote: »

But this is Ireland not Britain so therefore I don't give a fiddlers

I've been in a Louth Garda station CCTV room and I can say that similar cameras can possess same high quality resolution/clarity.

Hande hoche! · 03-10-2012 07:13PM

The idea of police drones creeps me out more.

gctest50 · 03-10-2012 07:13PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

These cameras can fully pan, tilt and zoom 360°, can be fully upgradable to distant facial recognition ......

All you'd have to do then is mate that yoke with a facebook interface and it could go something like this:

"Wanted person" spotted by shiny new camera

Cam gear dig through facebook and keeps an eye out for his facebook friends in area.

While its bored it can be poking at cellphone calls/txt messages of them.

Or to take a bit of load off the poor thing you could turn that on its head :

Use the cellphone location tricks to "alert" the camera in the area which wanted people it is most likely to see today.

Youssef Chippo · 03-10-2012 07:14PM

Biggins wrote: »

I've been in a Louth Garda station CCTV room and I can say that similar cameras can possess same high quality resolution/clarity.

I wouldn't be caught dead in Louth never mind alive.:pac:

Run_to_da_hills · 03-10-2012 07:15PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The idea of police drones creeps me out more.

Police Drones is just an extension of the fixed CCTV system, it won't be too long before they will be patrolling our back yards and bogs.

partyatmygaff · 03-10-2012 07:16PM

If the police/government/"NWO" or whatever other evil organisation is the flavour of the month these days in the CT world wants to track you and follow your movements, they will and they don't need CCTV cameras to do it either.

Nodin · 03-10-2012 07:17PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The idea of police drones creeps me out more.

'where-are-you-going-with-no-lights-on-your-bicycle' in a Robotron voice would be a bit different.

N64 · 03-10-2012 07:19PM

How come you always post the same sort of scaremongering ****e ?

PCPhoto · 03-10-2012 07:19PM

so the cops knew internal affairs were after them !!!

meh ! ... police/gardai need your face on file before it can be tracked by the CCTV .... so mainly crims who need to be worried ....I see no problem as long as databases from the passport office/driving licence peoples etc are not shared.

dont really see much of an issue with it - facial recognition cameras will make it easier to identify crims in the event of a theft/robbery/assault, they will also assist in tracking the movements of known crims and suspects - makes life easier for the gardai/police.

What are the chances they dont have a database to store the feed and its live only !!

Where To · 03-10-2012 07:21PM

And this is a bad thing because. . . . . . . . ?

eth0 · 03-10-2012 07:22PM

Where To wrote: »

And this is a bad thing because. . . . . . . . ?

Ould government sh1tbags invading our privacy again.

Hande hoche! · 03-10-2012 07:28PM

Nodin wrote: »

'where-are-you-going-with-no-lights-on-your-bicycle' in a Robotron voice would be a bit different.

Will probably end up with an ED 209.

partyatmygaff · 03-10-2012 07:36PM

eth0 wrote: »

Ould government sh1tbags invading our privacy again.

Would a guard standing on a street corner watching a crowd of people be invading people's privacy?

If not, why would someone sitting in a remote room doing that very same thing be any different? Unless they've got a very good reason, no one is going to care enough to even notice you out of the many other thousands of people that will pass in front of the lens.

Pottler · 03-10-2012 07:43PM

Meh, that's nothing. I can spot a good looking bird at 600m in light drizzle. Beat that robocam.

ScumLord · 03-10-2012 07:48PM

Camera version of this.

kincsem · 03-10-2012 08:03PM

Thanks for the tip. I'm selling my shares in the binocular company.

kincsem · 03-10-2012 08:04PM

And buying shares in the false beard company.

minidazzler · 03-10-2012 08:05PM

"Could" turn Britain into a Big Brother society? But they already are!

bobmac27 · 03-10-2012 08:07PM

It is funny how Orwell 's book was set in 1984 and London. This is how it is playing out. Not sure if you guys have heard, UK police is also testing mini-drones for surveillance

Guy:Incognito · 03-10-2012 08:11PM

But RTDH have you not been telling us Britain has been a big brother society for years? But now its back to being in danger of becoming one again? Is it cos C4 ditched the show?

Maybe you need a conspiracy leader to vet all the stories and weed out any crossover?

eth0 wrote: »

Ould government sh1tbags invading our privacy again.

Privacy on a public street?

humbert · 03-10-2012 08:14PM

I really don't see the problem here. It's not an invasion of privacy as the cameras are all in public places. It's just a natural extension of their original purpose.

eth0 · 03-10-2012 11:34PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Would a guard standing on a street corner watching a crowd of people be invading people's privacy?

If not, why would someone sitting in a remote room doing that very same thing be any different? Unless they've got a very good reason, no one is going to care enough to even notice you out of the many other thousands of people that will pass in front of the lens.

The guard might not give a damn but this thing will most likely create a record of where you've been spotted. Which would be fierce handy for anyone trying to "build a case" against you for whatever reason.

ejmaztec · 03-10-2012 11:36PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Will probably end up with an ED 209.

More chance of a WD40.

Tefral · 03-10-2012 11:37PM

If your doing nothing wrong whats the harm? CCTV caught the guy who killed Jill in Melbourne for example.

Mr. CooL ICE · 03-10-2012 11:37PM

RTDH, please come to the AH beers

Hi-tech CCTV can recognise faces from half a mile away.

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