Would you be in favour of a tracking device for your child?

Mr.Crinklewood · 03-10-2012 10:09PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

No. I think it's a giant overreaction. The chances of you being abducted as a child is miniscule.

But the impact for the people involved is massive....

NegativeCreep · 03-10-2012 10:14PM

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

But the impact for the people involved is massive....

Yeah but I still think it's a rather huge action to take in order to prevent something that's not going to happen anyway.

NegativeCreep · 03-10-2012 10:17PM

Ghandee wrote: »

Firstly, a poster on this site, on another thread claims to know the family in question fairly well.
Secondly, you think its ok? Ok then. Seeing as its you and all, i take it back. :cool:

Fair enough. I obviously think it's terrible what's happened but I don't think we should stop discussion of a topic on a discussion forum because of it.

MadsL · 03-10-2012 10:19PM

a tracking device for my child. Hmm. I'm considering it, but could you up your offer have you anything else you could offer in exchange as well?

Wattle · 03-10-2012 10:21PM

But what if pervert mechanics develop some sort of blocking device? Paedo-gedden that's what.

Uriel. · 03-10-2012 10:22PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Ghandee wrote: »

Has this thread appeared on the back of a poor Childs abduction in Wales?

C'Mon guys, bit of respect.

What does that even mean? As far as I can see it's just a generic sentence people churn out in order to seem sensitive and sympathetic.

I highly doubt anyone close to that girl will ever see this thread so I think it's OK.

And even if they did see it, where is the lack of respect or where is the offence?

Strange comments alright. Very strange

peil · 03-10-2012 10:24PM

Nice way to wrap your child up in bubble wrap.
They'll be completely safe from paedos, and then they get raped when they're adults. Brilliant.

bbam · 03-10-2012 10:27PM

Wattle wrote: »

But what if pervert mechanics develop some sort of blocking device? Paedo-gedden that's what.

Done!

http://www.jammer4uk.com/car-gps-jammer-c-1.html

milhous · 03-10-2012 10:31PM

What size do they have gps tracking devices down to now? I'd imagine people would use them for all sorts of things if they were readily available with a long battery life and at a reasonable price.. bags, cars etc.?

rolion · 03-10-2012 10:32PM

We (my teens and I) agreed to install a tracking code on their smartphone.
That allow me /us to see instant position and daily tracks.
They were going out with phone and GPS on and never had any issues.
They lied few times that battery or coverage or signal,but u shown then the software indicates battery still ok,just they are messing around !

WHY...because some external factors (one of the kids suffered attack with knife and phone stolen,while other just to be on a safe side).

We used the system for a while,nothing serious,just calling and validating their position around in estate.
After a while,confidence in themselves (age) and trust build between us (they and me) we kind of let that go off and today i have no issues with their where abouts or they been scared to wander around estate.

Overall,i'll do it again with GPS and/or RFID for the little chap that is going missing for hours in the neighbours homes...

Mcirochips...i reckon is a little bit too far,at least in my estate !
Is very important that th ekids are not talking to strangers AND neighborhood is very alert and careful !It happened to me few times to see kids "lost" in shops and've stopped them asking for their mum/dad just to see that somebody said is with me (sometime like i was trying to do something bad).

Where To · 03-10-2012 10:32PM

I'd be comfortable with it. The CIA, FSB, Irish Secret Service, Google and even Angry ****ing Birds can track my location as I type, I don't see a problem with the same technology being used to protect children.

bbam · 03-10-2012 10:38PM

peil wrote: »

Nice way to wrap your child up in bubble wrap.
They'll be completely safe from paedos, and then they get raped when they're adults. Brilliant.

I think its awful the way that protective parents have been demonised on these threads..

If anything this case shows that being cautious about the whereabouts of your children is a good thing. Finding the right balance is the key.

If people think that their locality doesn't harbour people who are a danger to their children then they are very wrong and foolish.

say_who_now? · 03-10-2012 10:45PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Google latitude? What?

It's basically a feature of google maps that allows you to share your location-

Google Latitude

Richard Hillman · 03-10-2012 10:49PM

You're best off keeping them in your cellar for 20 or so years.

peil · 03-10-2012 10:53PM

bbam wrote: »

I think its awful the way that protective parents have been demonised on these threads..

If anything this case shows that being cautious about the whereabouts of your children is a good thing. Finding the right balance is the key.

If people think that their locality doesn't harbour people who are a danger to their children then they are very wrong and foolish.

My parents were extremely protective, as soon as I got a taste of freedom I went out looking for an adventure.

bbam · 03-10-2012 10:59PM

peil wrote: »

My parents were extremely protective, as soon as I got a taste of freedom I went out looking for an adventure.

Indeed, i said balance is the key..
Its still prudent to protect children in every way possible including controlling where they go without direct supervision.. Particularly at such young ages.. Its much more difficult to explain to a five year old why they shouldn't get into a car with a stranger, even if they have a puppy or a bag of sweets, their five, they just won't understand what could happen.

I would be much more in favour of making the sex offenders register a public database.. That way people would be aware of the risks in their areas. We are aware of the location of a previous sex offender in our area, that's just one, I'd like to know if there are any more.

Madam_X · 03-10-2012 11:02PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

I want more than that. Waiting to have kids until the tech from Ender's Game is developed and I can plug a camera into their optic nerves and a neural reader into their cerebral cortex.
I'll have eyes in the back of their heads!

:eek:
Yeh, cool! Minority Report eyeball-scanning - I want that sh1t too!

Ghandee wrote: »

Firstly, a poster on this site, on another thread claims to know the family in question fairly well.
Secondly, you think its ok? Ok then. Seeing as its you and all, i take it back. :cool:

How is this thread disrespectful to the family of that child?

bbam wrote: »

If people think that their locality doesn't harbour people who are a danger to their children then they are very wrong and foolish.

How do you know what every locality harbours? As said, it's extremely rare. Concern for child safety is obviously understandable, but maintaining there are paedos lurking all over the place is not rational. How come I didn't need a tracking device? Paedos always existed - if anything, child abuse was more commonplace back in the day - except in homes and schools and other institutions.

bbam · 03-10-2012 11:07PM

Madam_X wrote: »

How do you know what every locality harbours? As said, it's extremely rare. Concern for child safety is obviously understandable, but maintaining there are paedos lurking all over the place is not rational. How come I didn't need a tracking device? Paedos always existed - if anything, child abuse was more commonplace back in the day - except in homes and schools and other institutions.

That's a very innocent view of the world and foolish in my opinion..

I know children in my area who were abused, and not in institutions or by the church.. equally we know we have a convicted sex offender living in our town..

eth0 · 03-10-2012 11:28PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Such a pathetic way to try and get your point across.. make a point then do a pre-emptive strike on anyone who might tend to disagree by calling them bed wetting liberals who believe in paedos rights.

Way to go dude. That's the American way.

The lad also seems to have an obsession with "bed wetters"

wonder why

eth0 · 03-10-2012 11:39PM

Where To wrote: »

I'd be comfortable with it. The CIA, FSB, Irish Secret Service, Google and even Angry ****ing Birds can track my location as I type, I don't see a problem with the same technology being used to protect children.

Not that hard to prevent them and the private companies you mentioned use IP geolocation which is shoite unless you agree to share your GPS location with them and I dunno why in the feck you'd want to do that

Madam_X · 05-10-2012 12:52AM

bbam wrote: »

That's a very innocent view of the world and foolish in my opinion..

I know children in my area who were abused, and not in institutions or by the church.. equally we know we have a convicted sex offender living in our town..

Still doesn't mean there are countless paedos around. Buying into that red-top media fuelled notion is what's naive IMO.
It has also helped foster a culture of suspicion around many men, especially those who are single/working with children, which is frightening and depressing.

It also helps foster a culture of unnecessary fear - not fair to children.

HeyThereDeliah · 05-10-2012 01:58AM

No would not be in favour of it I don't think it's the ways children should be reared,child abduction is not common.

anncoates · 05-10-2012 02:38AM

Despite all the homilies about the old days and the modern media-driven pedo-panics, child abduction is still very rare, The current case was some semi-rural village in Wales: not somewhere you would think is 'dangerous'. Maseline McCamm was taken from the same sort of the resort that thousands of us bring our kids to.

I have kids and my guts wrench at the thought of this case but it's still a rare occurrence, thankfully.

rab!dmonkey · 05-10-2012 02:45AM

rolion wrote: »

We (my teens and I) agreed to install a tracking code on their smartphone.
That allow me /us to see instant position and daily tracks.
They were going out with phone and GPS on and never had any issues.
They lied few times that battery or coverage or signal,but u shown then the software indicates battery still ok,just they are messing around !

WHY...because some external factors (one of the kids suffered attack with knife and phone stolen,while other just to be on a safe side).

We used the system for a while,nothing serious,just calling and validating their position around in estate.
After a while,confidence in themselves (age) and trust build between us (they and me) we kind of let that go off and today i have no issues with their where abouts or they been scared to wander around estate.

Overall,i'll do it again with GPS and/or RFID for the little chap that is going missing for hours in the neighbours homes...

Mcirochips...i reckon is a little bit too far,at least in my estate !
Is very important that th ekids are not talking to strangers AND neighborhood is very alert and careful !It happened to me few times to see kids "lost" in shops and've stopped them asking for their mum/dad just to see that somebody said is with me (sometime like i was trying to do something bad).

I think you'll agree that a voluntary agreement between a parent and a teen/young adult to use a tracking device - which can be disabled at will - in response to a well-defined threat is very different to implanting an electronic device into the body of a baby without consent (or perhaps even knowledge) to guard against some nebulous threat of abductors.

Da Shins Kelly · 05-10-2012 02:54AM

Madam_X wrote: »

Still doesn't mean there are countless paedos around. Buying into that red-top media fuelled notion is what's naive IMO.
It has also helped foster a culture of suspicion around many men, especially those who are single/working with children, which is frightening and depressing.

'Thou shalt not think that any male over the age of 30 who plays with a child that is not their own is a paedophile - some people are just nice'.

- 'Thou Shalt Always Kill' by Scroobius Pip

1ZRed · 05-10-2012 03:07AM

No because then parents would start to obsess about where their children are all the time and look it up through a convenient app no doubt.
What if you were looking after the child of a friend or family member, the parents could be checking up on where you took it/where you didn't. Never mind the child, it could take away from the privacy of people around it!

I'm probably seeing the the extreme overbearing patental side of things but it could well happen, easily.

opti0nal · 05-10-2012 07:06AM

bbam wrote: »

I would be much more in favour of making the sex offenders register a public database.. That way people would be aware of the risks in their areas. We are aware of the location of a previous sex offender in our area, that's just one, I'd like to know if there are any more.

You would be looking in the wrong direction. The greatest risk to children comes from within their own families.

Thumby · 05-10-2012 07:17AM

I would have said no until my eldest disappeared for a few hours yesterday. He didn't come home from school and didn't have his phone with him. I was going out of my mind with worry until we'd found him.

opti0nal · 05-10-2012 07:25AM

Thumby wrote: »

I would have said no until my eldest disappeared for a few hours yesterday. He didn't come home from school and didn't have his phone with him. I was going out of my mind with worry until we'd found him.

Who was more upset, you or him?

Maybe it's time to let go a bit.

Thumby · 05-10-2012 07:48AM

@optional, that's the thing, he has alot of freedom. He's just started first year and i feel its important that he has that. I have no problem with him not coming home straight after school once i know. When he didn't get in touch i started to worry as it completely out of character for him. At the end of the day he is still only 12 and no child that age should have total freedom to come and go as they please.

Would you be in favour of a tracking device for your child?

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