Death Camp Jigsaw Puzzle

Biggins · 30-09-2012 09:21PM

My name is URL wrote: »

What about this? - http://www.amazon.com/B-29-Enola-Gay-scale-model/dp/B0006N1PXM/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1349023674&sr=1-1&keywords=Atomic+bomb

That's the plane that was used to murder about 200,000 non-combatants in Japan. No such outrage over that being sold though.

All true.

We can only put it down to those people/countries involved and their particular sensitive feelings on the matter.

Some clearly are of a different outlook.

Myself although I would not rush out to buy such a jigsaw, I wouldn't start taking a position that just because some would hate them, they should be destroyed.
That was the route Hitler eventually took with the burning of books.

My name is URL · 30-09-2012 09:22PM

PC CDROM wrote: »

I prefer this. Like if you are going to cause controversy...

http://blog.balder.org/?p=880

Copy/Model of Auschwitz main gate allegedly made of gold teeth from Jews

Now that's macabre!

Grayson · 30-09-2012 09:35PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Now that's macabre!

This was weird.

http://blog.balder.org/billeder-blog/Auschwitz-Lego-Libera-Imitation-260.jpg

Dangerous Man · 30-09-2012 09:37PM

Grayson wrote: »

This was weird.

http://blog.balder.org/billeder-blog/Auschwitz-Lego-Libera-Imitation-260.jpg

That's Christmas sorted.

Grayson · 30-09-2012 09:37PM

Zab wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crematorium-concentration-Bavaria-Robert-Harding/dp/B004469WBY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349022202&sr=8-1

Does seem a bit odd to be honest.

Lots of brick coloured pieces. But the corners should be easy to find.

As a side note, I remember hearing that the crematoria were never used there. Or maybe it was just the gas chambers. I was there as a teenager, but that was over 20 years ago.

ScumLord · 30-09-2012 10:10PM

Jigsaw puzzle addicts don't even care what the picture is, all they see is jigsaw peices.

B.A._Baracus · 30-09-2012 10:29PM

My name is URL wrote: »

It's a jigsaw ffs, not a recruitment leaflet for the Nazi party. Plenty of jigsaws exist of other bloody and historical scenes. I remember having a puzzle depicting the Battle of Gettysburg as a kid.

You make a good point about other jigsaw pictures.
But the death camps of world war 2 were the largest mass murder in human history. Its in very bad taste for the picture to be that of the crematorium. Many people had a horrific death then just tossed inside to be burned to ashes.

I guess it would be like having a jigsaw of the twin towers. But instead of a nice normal picture of them remembering 911. The completed image shows a plane about to hit it.... its all about taste :P

Zebra3 · 01-10-2012 09:45AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

But the death camps of world war 2 were the largest mass murder in human history.

That's highly disputable.

Biggins · 01-10-2012 10:07AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

That's highly disputable.

Indeed.
Stalin has alone reported killed through the use of his once gulags in Siberia.
The numbers he killed in those alone was 1.7 million.
The total deaths cause by Stalin is numbered now at least 6 million combined, through his very own orders and personal instigated methods.
It wasn't till Nikita Khrushchev made a brave speech in his home country that his predecessor was exposed.
February 25th 1956, he made whats considered one of the bravest speeches (4 hours long) in the world of politics telling the world of what had happened and how so.

Zebra3 · 01-10-2012 10:17AM

Mao Zedong's "Great Leap Forward".

Somewhere between 20,000,000-43,000,000 murdered.

The holocaust of the natives of the Americas by Europeans is estimated to be around 100,000,000.

01-10-2012 10:24AM

Why would amazon be in trouble about it? They're not the ones making it

Zebra3 · 01-10-2012 11:11AM

bluewolf wrote: »

Why would amazon be in trouble about it? They're not the ones making it

Pressure groups target the big brand to publicise their own cause.

Sarky · 01-10-2012 11:15AM

I would buy one. It's an interesting scene. Morbid, perhaps, but interesting nonetheless.

Executive Steve · 01-10-2012 11:26AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

That's highly disputable.

Stalin would have given them a run for their money, and Pol Pot and Mao were bad too of course, but I think despite the numbers not quite reaching their heights that Hitler's crime still comes across as the most chilling.

The amount of ingenuity, innovation and planning; the labour and expense that were poured into it, the amount of unremarkable bureaucrats and civil servants slaving away in untold offices, the extra railways, the computerisation of it all using IBM analytical machines, the sheer single minded focus on thorough extermination while trying to shield what was a massive state undertaking from the public in as far as was deemed practical - it still floors me.

Stalin was no saint (obviously!) and he would probably have comfortably beaten Hitler on points even without the massive famines in the Ukraine and the grain shortages and the many millions of dead that resulted from the inefficiencies of a centrally planned economy in the pre-networked era; I think that the tendency in history in recent years has been to paint those famines as genocidal acts that bump up a score built over the course of a career that lasted decades as opposed to the side effects of incredibly misguided blunders wrought by an uncaring system and magnified by a lack of negative feedback travelling back up the chain of command; the holocaust was more of a single calculated project which makes it all the more inhuman and evil.

(assuming your "highly disputable" here refers to the relative magnitudes of 20th century genocide rather than a reluctance to believe it all took place to begin with, that is.)

Zab · 01-10-2012 02:26PM

The puzzle is now gone. I really do think this was just a mistake by the company due to the sheer number of pictures the were processing.

CruelCoin · 01-10-2012 03:08PM

Biggins wrote: »

2. How is making an image of a death camp considered now a good fun time game/puzzle?

The average person to consider jigsaws "fun times" are also the kind of people who are fascinated by history......

I'd be curious too.

Zab · 01-10-2012 03:11PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

The average person to consider jigsaws "fun times" are also the kind of people who are fascinated by history......

I'd be curious too.

You'd be curious about what it's like to do a jigsaw of Dachau?

Biggins · 01-10-2012 03:18PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

The average person to consider jigsaws "fun times" are also the kind of people who are fascinated by history......

I'd be curious too.

Google a picture and save a few quid!

CruelCoin · 01-10-2012 03:52PM

Zab wrote: »

You'd be curious about what it's like to do a jigsaw of Dachau?

Why not?

To ignore the history surrounding the camp and "lets pretend it never happened" is to my mind more insulting than the image itself.

In order to improve on the past, you must first know what happened in the past. Plastering over it helps nobody bar the terminally oversensitive

Zab · 01-10-2012 04:04PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Why not?

To ignore the history surrounding the camp and "lets pretend it never happened" is to my mind more insulting than the image itself.e

Ignore the history? Pretend it didn't happen? Who said anything about doing any of that?

This conversation is silly. The jigsaw was decidedly odd. Now it's gone.

Death Camp Jigsaw Puzzle

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