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Wikileaks merge (Assange loses extradition appeal)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Perhaps you could stop personalizing the debate.I swear some people lose all run of themselves in any discussion about America.

    If wikileaks are putting classified information into the open then the US government will see them as a hostile organization this isnt in doubt. But theres no evidence they view them on the same level as Al-Qaeda. This is just an overreaction.

    "Doesn't take much intelligence.."

    "Seriously unable to grasp.."

    "Lose all run of themselves...."

    And I'm personalising the debate!!

    LOL good one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    karma_ wrote: »
    "Doesn't take much intelligence.."

    "Seriously unable to grasp.."

    "Lose all run of themselves...."

    And I'm personalising the debate!!

    LOL good one.

    When you respond with "That's insane, and a fat load of bollocks to be fúcking blunt." to a post you might get a more polite response especially when you agreed two posts later that what i had said about states wanting to protect their secrets was true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Has he handed himself in yet, or is he still hiding in the embassy?

    The guy seems to love the sound of his own voice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    The whiny whinger's only getting free board and lodgings because he's not publicising the Ecuadorian leaks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    The whiny whinger's only getting free board and lodgings because he's not publicising the Ecuadorian leaks.

    He probably should have chosen a better country to blackmail.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    UK Police have been guarding the Ecuadorian embassy 24/7 since June.
    The protection bill has cost the UK taxpayer a minimum of £3m so far.
    You'd think that the austerity-ridden UK had better things to spend money on.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279488/Julian-Assange-Fury-cost-fugitives-embassy-stand-soars.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    snubbleste wrote: »
    UK Police have been guarding the Ecuadorian embassy 24/7 since June.
    The protection bill has cost the UK taxpayer a minimum of £3m so far.
    You'd think that the austerity-ridden UK had better things to spend money on.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279488/Julian-Assange-Fury-cost-fugitives-embassy-stand-soars.html

    It would probably hurt them a lot more economically if they took those police away. Assange would leave for Equador or somewhere. This would greatly upset their overlords in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    I think he is hiding somethink and is just playing the US card


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I must say, I had forgotten about him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,008 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    really what britain should do is just allow a little lapse in the police presence, he gets away, make it look like a screw-up, nobodies any the wiser, he gets to leave britain, and britain no longer has to pay for the police presence, the sweeds will get over it, and the americans won't do anything as they won't want to upset one of their allis

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    really what britain should do is just allow a little lapse in the police presence, he gets away, make it look like a screw-up, nobodies any the wiser, he gets to leave britain, and britain no longer has to pay for the police presence, the sweeds will get over it, and the americans won't do anything as they won't want to upset one of their allis

    Does the potential rape victim get a say?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    really what britain should do is just allow a little lapse in the police presence, he gets away, make it look like a screw-up, nobodies any the wiser, he gets to leave britain, and britain no longer has to pay for the police presence, the sweeds will get over it, and the americans won't do anything as they won't want to upset one of their allis

    It has bloody nothing to do with America, ffs. The disinformation being spread around this case is hilarious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It would probably hurt them a lot more economically if they took those police away. Assange would leave for Equador or somewhere. This would greatly upset their overlords in the US.

    If they didn't want to upset the Americans they wouldn't bother with any extradition laws and would send whoever the Americans wanted on the next flight to Gitmo. They wouldn't have wasted years and millions trying to get shot of Abu Hamza.

    Assange is taking the piss, and the UK authorities dislike him as much as a lot of other international authorities do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    Read an article on Julian Assange today about him being in the embassy for a year now and it got me thinking is there any way they could sneak him out past the guard that is on the door 24/7 in cold war espionage style ?

    Surely over a period of time they could sneak a series of props in and change his appearance and sneak him out and onto mainland europe and to somewhere that would not extradite him.

    or is this not the point? and he wants to stay in the embassy to prove a point ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Does anybody care about him or his not very interesting revelations at this stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    i am not overly interested in him or his revelations, but i am interested in whether a man with such a following hasn't been hijacked out of there thus far unless he doesn't want to leave in such a manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭Wossack


    was snuck out in that manner over six months ago

    the papier mache model of him sitting in the window reading a newspaper is a dead give away - the paper is from 2012 ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Have a big fancy dress party at the embassy then at the end he can simply stroll out in a gorilla suit or dressed like Jack Sparrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    He could dress up as Larry murphy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Who cares, well except for his ex-supporters lost a few hundred thousands on his bail skipping stunt

    He seems to piss off most who he's worked with, so I'm fairly sure he'll eventually piss off the Ecudorians


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭mbur


    It's a big day for JA today with the Bradley Manning trial underway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    He's only been there 11 months and two weeks..not a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    snubbleste wrote: »
    He's only been there 11 months and two weeks..not a year.

    Julian... is that you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    danotroy wrote: »

    or is this not the point? and he wants to stay in the embassy to prove a point ?

    No accommodation costs, free food, personal office, why would he leave? And they're probably having p***-ups at the weekend too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭666irishguy


    I thought he could walk out the door if he got diplomatic messenger status or got full diplomat status, guess his hosts don't even regard him as important enough. He strikes me as an arrogant man, who enjoys being some kind of international man of mystery. Quite a pathetic figure at this stage. I also have zero pity for Manning, he joined the US military of his own accord and signed up for a security clearance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Do they have a permanent police presence outside the embassy? It would seem like a waste of a lot of man hours. Have a look at the embassy on Google Maps, it doesnt look like they have a back garden. Harrods is literally right across the road, plus a boozer a few doors down from him.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ecuadorian+Embassy,+Hans+Crescent,+London,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=51.499146,-0.159227&spn=0.003253,0.008122&sll=51.499096,-0.161362&layer=c&cid=5648896766503341332&cbp=13,212.73,,0,-0.07&cbll=51.49922,-0.161424&hq=Ecuadorian+Embassy,+Hans+Crescent,+London,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&panoid=0nOramrqevoJad8vnDRyxg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    kneemos wrote: »
    Does anybody care about him or his not very interesting revelations at this stage?

    Speak for yourself I thought the revelations were fascinating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    Do they have a permanent police presence outside the embassy? It would seem like a waste of a lot of man hours. Have a look at the embassy on Google Maps, it doesnt look like they have a back garden. Harrods is literally right across the road, plus a boozer a few doors down from him.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ecuadorian+Embassy,+Hans+Crescent,+London,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=51.499146,-0.159227&spn=0.003253,0.008122&sll=51.499096,-0.161362&layer=c&cid=5648896766503341332&cbp=13,212.73,,0,-0.07&cbll=51.49922,-0.161424&hq=Ecuadorian+Embassy,+Hans+Crescent,+London,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&panoid=0nOramrqevoJad8vnDRyxg

    ha.. yes the have spent millions on a 24 hour guard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    danotroy wrote: »
    ha.. yes the have spent millions on a 24 hour guard.

    Be a bummer if the guard took fourty winks and assange nipped off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    He'll be in there until the statute of limitation on rape runs out.


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