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Shock as calves are mauled to death in Donegal

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    I'm inclined to think it was dogs. A pack of dogs can do a hell of a lot of damage and a calf could easily break ribs when brought down at pace or trying to jump a bank or ditch or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 216 ✭✭Geri Male


    Has to be animal-rights activists or hunt sabs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Pet dogs sometimes don't bother killing a creature before dining especially when in a pack. Two family pet dogs from a neighbouring house polished off the hind leg of the last of my dad's pet goats a few Christmases ago without going for it's jugular. Poor Fiona died a nasty death from blood loss after they'd finished with her. The second to last goat that he had was killed fairly cleanly by the same two animals a year or so before that.

    Nobody in authority gives a shit about pet livestock. Sure they couldn't do anything because there was no proof that it was those dogs apart from the fact that we'd all seen them worrying the poor animals on a regular basis. The wee pets now sit on the side of the road outside that house watching people making their way up and down the road. Funny how they don't bother going for the bullocks though. One of these days my car won't miss. :mad:


  • Site Banned Posts: 224 ✭✭SubBusted


    One of those grabbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Light Switch


    Few lads coming home from the pub id say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Its the Aliens!!!!


    Where's Mulder and Scully when you need them??!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Pet dogs sometimes don't bother killing a creature before dining especially when in a pack. Two family pet dogs from a neighbouring house polished off the hind leg of the last of my dad's pet goats a few Christmases ago without going for it's jugular. Poor Fiona died a nasty death from blood loss after they'd finished with her. The second to last goat that he had was killed fairly cleanly by the same two animals a year or so before that.

    Nobody in authority gives a shit about pet livestock. Sure they couldn't do anything because there was no proof that it was those dogs apart from the fact that we'd all seen them worrying the poor animals on a regular basis. The wee pets now sit on the side of the road outside that house watching people making their way up and down the road. Funny how they don't bother going for the bullocks though. One of these days my car won't miss. :mad:

    Trap the dogs, throw them in your boot and hang them from a local tree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,353 ✭✭✭✭Heroditas


    My money's on a spider baby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭maddragon


    Rigol wrote: »
    is obviously the new world order at it again.
    wake up you sheeples.

    29th september.....9....and 2. 1 day left in september.
    1. 2 times = 1.1.

    9/11. those calves were only recently insured, you'll find the burnt flesh was consistent with thermite.

    I blame Declan Kidney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Mr Gregg had the animals removed and disposed of.

    That makes little sense to me. Why dispose of the carcasses before running tests etc to find out what happened?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    could a black hole do this type of damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    That makes little sense to me. Why dispose of the carcasses before running tests etc to find out what happened?
    I think the carcasses were distressing his wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    I think the carcasses were distressing his wife.

    but they were dead.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    That makes little sense to me. Why dispose of the carcasses before running tests etc to find out what happened?

    becuase he probably has other animals on his land and leaving a dead rotting animal in the field runs the risk of the others getting sick.


    Common ****ing sense really.

    Also, em, the law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    That makes little sense to me. Why dispose of the carcasses before running tests etc to find out what happened?

    You're talking about a country that has a police force that wouldn't finger print a crime scene.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Sounds like that Animal Rites crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Seaneh wrote: »
    becuase he probably has other animals on his land and leaving a dead rotting animal in the field runs the risk of the others getting sick.


    Common ****ing sense really.

    Also, em, the law.

    Who said anything about leaving it rotting in a field?

    Yeah, sounds like real common sense to destroy the carcases before any tests are conducted to try and find out which animal was responsible. And why then go to the media with the story causing people to speculate? If they arranged for a forensic examination of the animal it could have shone a light on what happened.. not least because it could be a potential crime and some psychopath that done it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    http://www.donegaldaily.com/2012/09/28/family-fear-mystery-animal-killed-their-calves/

    I wonder if a big dog like a rottweiler might be capable of inflicting the injuries described, or if this really is evidence of a big cat being around.
    Scioch wrote: »
    I'm inclined to think it was dogs. A pack of dogs can do a hell of a lot of damage and a calf could easily break ribs when brought down at pace or trying to jump a bank or ditch or something.

    Only dog I can think of that could break those ribs itself would be a mastiff. They have the strongest bite of all canines. Or the calves could have broken them when they fell or in their panic. But it would have to be a pack of big dogs to take down two calves and they would't bother going after two, they'd focus only on one. Two calves would be extremely difficult to take down and even one would have injured the dogs. And a pack of mastiffs would have been noticed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Could be an escaped or breeding bigcat. We would need to see how it was killed to be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Shryke wrote: »
    You have no idea what you're talking about and clearly have no idea what it would take to do this to these animals. Bluffer.
    Considering no one knows what happened and I didn't claim to know what happened either, I don't see my bluff.

    Unless you're suggesting it was some cult ritual or aliens, it more than likely was a nutjob with a big knife or a big animal of some kind. Owing to the fact the calves' ribs were broken it may well have been some kind of big animal. Something to note and fret about if you're a farmer in Donegal but hardly even news-worthy if you're anyone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    kraggy wrote: »
    Sounds like that Animal Rites crowd.
    Thats bs frankly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    kraggy wrote: »
    Sounds like that Animal Rites crowd.
    Thats bs frankly.
    Not really
    Animal rights crowd have been known to actually kill animals and do terrible things to show a protest
    They're dirt bags
    They've released pets that they thought shouldn't be pets
    They've stolen animals aswell I know this as I was told about a fella in cork who had bops and they released 2 on him stolen 1 and hung the other with a note
    They were caught 2 days later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    kraggy wrote: »
    Sounds like that Animal Rites crowd.
    Thats bs frankly.


    Not really
    Animal rights crowd have been known to actually kill animals and do terrible things to show a protest
    They're dirt bags
    They've released pets that they thought shouldn't be pets
    They've stolen animals aswell I know this as I was told about a fella in cork who had bops and they released 2 on him stolen 1 and hung the other with a note
    They were caught 2 days later


    I agree in the past groups like peta have deystroyed wildlife and I think they are loons. The release of the mink was idiocy and has a massive enviromental impact but this doesnt carry their hallmark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Thats bs frankly.

    Joke went over your head obviously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    I thought the animal rights crowd suggestions were jokes.

    Even to the most warped mind, there is no way brutally killing calves could be seen as any sort of protest for their rights. It's an absurd suggestion.

    Also, most of the animal rights crowd dont do anything destructive at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Nothis doesn't sound like them but iwas just pointing out what they have done in the past
    The mink situation was a lot more than stupid and idiocy
    "let's release all these poor mink and save them and the mink will live happily ever after in harmony with our own native animals"
    Great plan idiots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    kraggy wrote: »
    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Thats bs frankly.

    Joke went over your head obviously.

    Sorry I apologise but I have heard farmers accusing them of killing the golden eagles before (ironic considering who was doing the accussing I know). I have heard the view before and the people holding it werent joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Cattle and sheep are being stolen to order all over the country. Sometimes they are slaughtered on the spot and the meat removed. I remember a case involving bullocks in Tipperary only last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Could be an escaped or breeding bigcat. We would need to see how it was killed to be sure.
    I wouldn't think cat
    In the wild all cats go for the throat and eat from neck down mostly
    In this case the back end was eatin more so shows signs of canine attack like wolves and such all eat prey alive and start from the back


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭rubadubduba


    Its circus season, was there any circus near by, would be a good place to start.
    Could of been one of the lion handlers taking them out for a late night snack.
    Also is'nt there a badger cull going on, it could be some badgers geting there own back.:P


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