Kissinger: Obama Will Create A New World Order

JustinDee · 28-09-2012 07:55AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Again.

Israeli Science Website: Former Netanyahu Adviser: Obama Birth Certificate Forged.

Crazy fantasies aside, kiddo, the term you should have used is 'Israeli'. Not "The Jews".
Israeli.
The conspiracy theorist you mention has been on a pro-agendaic rant since Obama first won primaries. All of which is dismissable pap, hence his not being taken seriously.
Its a hobby for the likes of he and you, except he is making serious money from it. You just remain a moniker of anonymity on the web.

Monty Burnz · 28-09-2012 10:05AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I edit the above sweeping statement.

Not everyone in Israel would have access to such sophisticated technical and laboratory equipment to be able to carry out a detail analysis of a document.

Or the lack of understanding of Adobe software to fall for the 'layers' canard.

By the way, why did Obama wait for 4 years before deciding to morph into the new Hitler?

Run_to_da_hills · 28-09-2012 10:07AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Even the Jews have doubts about Barack Obama's birth authenticity

I edit the above sweeping statement.

Not everyone in Israel would have access to laboratories with the sophisticated technical equipment to be able to carry out a detail scientific analysis of a document such as a birth certificate.

gibraltar · 28-09-2012 01:23PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I edit the above sweeping statement.

Not everyone in Israel would have access to laboratories with the sophisticated technical equipment to be able to carry out a detail scientific analysis of a document such as a birth certificate.

How difficult do you think it is to create a fake birth cert?

Could you detail what you believe to be the process required please.

endacl · 28-09-2012 01:32PM

The Bishop! wrote: »

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

'Skeptics' on here sometimes. They think they can click their fingers, throw out loads of questions and expect to be entertained.:rolleyes:

S'ok You don't need to answer. Answers aren't the entertaining part. Watching the posters wriggling out of answering is the entertaining part.

endacl · 28-09-2012 01:35PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Still a few more hurdles to go, the big one being the US election, something interesting should happen soon.

Catchphrase!

Run_to_da_hills · 28-09-2012 03:40PM

gibraltar wrote: »

How difficult do you think it is to create a fake birth cert?

Could you detail what you believe to be the process required please.

Simple if you have all the resources and clout of the US government behind you.

For Joe Blogs on the street it would be virtually impossible.

Monty Burnz · 28-09-2012 03:47PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Simple if you have all the resources and clout of the US government behind you.

Ok, so here's another huge logical hole in your theory.

Explain this:

1. Obama - you say - was not born in the US.
2. He is asked to provide a birth cert.
3. He could provide a perfect fake - which is "Simple if you have all the resources and clout of the US government behind you."
4. He does not, and releases the standard electronic version.

Why does he not simply release the paper fake? You say it would be simple to do so.

endacl · 29-09-2012 12:10AM

I'm confused. What happens if romney wins? Will he be Hitler then? Or will he have to pick another despot? We might as well get started now. What's romney been up to all these years, and how is he connected to ........

....... whoever else is in on the big plan.

parrai · 29-09-2012 12:18AM

In all fairness, cts aside, Romney is a serious liar. A second Bush I fear.

Brown Bomber · 29-09-2012 12:25AM

endacl wrote: »

I'm confused. What happens if romney wins? Will he be Hitler then? Or will he have to pick another despot? We might as well get started now. What's romney been up to all these years,

Business partners with the families of Salvadorian right-wing death squads

endacl wrote: »

and how is he connected to ........

....... whoever else is in on the big plan.

Neo-Zionist Sheldon Adelson owns Romney. Like he owned Gingrich before him. If you don't know this already you probably shouldn't be so smug.

Brown Bomber · 29-09-2012 12:26AM

parrai wrote: »

In all fairness, cts aside, Romney is a serious liar. A second Bush I fear.

The third Bush surely?

parrai · 29-09-2012 12:29AM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

The third Bush surely?

Hahaha that escaped me for a minute, very true.:cool:

endacl · 29-09-2012 12:33AM

parrai wrote: »

In all fairness, cts aside, Romney is a serious liar. A second Bush I fear.

Agreed.

endacl · 29-09-2012 12:40AM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

endacl wrote: »

I'm confused. What happens if romney wins? Will he be Hitler then? Or will he have to pick another despot? We might as well get started now. What's romney been up to all these years,

Business partners with the families of Salvadorian right-wing death squads

endacl wrote: »

and how is he connected to ........

....... whoever else is in on the big plan.

Neo-Zionist Sheldon Adelson owns Romney. Like he owned Gingrich before him. If you don't know this already you probably shouldn't be so smug.

I did know this already. I've earned my smugness.

Ruthless money does business with unscrupulous money? That's not conspiracy. That's reality...

Was bertie part of the conspiracy too, or was he not big time enough?

endacl · 29-09-2012 12:43AM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

parrai wrote: »

In all fairness, cts aside, Romney is a serious liar. A second Bush I fear.

The third Bush surely?

Fourth. Don't forget the burning one in the bible. Some people do weave that ancient work of fiction into the delusional tapestry.

;-)

Brown Bomber · 29-09-2012 12:45AM

endacl wrote: »

Was bertie part of the conspiracy too, or was he not big time enough?

I have no idea what you are talking about... but if you already knew why did you ask???

Actually nevermind.

A Primal Nut · 29-09-2012 01:53AM

Good article for those looking for evidence of Kissinger's bad side: (by Christopher Hitchens)

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/12/mr_kissinger_have_you_no_shame.html

This is one of the worst quotes of all time:

The pair's open support for the Pakistani army's 1971 genocide in Bangladesh, of the architect of which, Gen. Yahya Khan, Kissinger was able to say: "Yahya hasn't had so much fun since the last Hindu massacre."

People make jokes about these kinds of things all the time (Frankie Boyle for example) but for a supporter and decision-maker of Khan, it is just pure evil.

Another one:

http://hurryupharry.org/2010/12/16/nixons-opening-to-china-the-dark-side/

I'm as anti-communism as they come by the way, but somehow Kissiner managed to replace it with something worse in any country he touched (genocide, fascism, concentration camps, you name it).

gibraltar · 29-09-2012 08:23AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Simple if you have all the resources and clout of the US government behind you.

For Joe Blogs on the street it would be virtually impossible.

You think its simple to fake a birth cert but you also think that obama and the new world order are incapable of doing it.

Makes zero sense, good work.

parrai · 29-09-2012 11:41AM

gibraltar wrote: »

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Simple if you have all the resources and clout of the US government behind you.

For Joe Blogs on the street it would be virtually impossible.

You think its simple to fake a birth cert but you also think that obama and the new world order are incapable of doing it.

Makes zero sense, good work.

That makes zero sense!

Agent Mug · 29-09-2012 08:29PM

From what I'm reading here I'm just wondering are some of yous living in the real world, this New World Order has been going on even before they found out the planet was round and not flat, and as for war, you use the best weapons you have and be thankful they did, otherwise we probably wouldn't be having this communication with each other, and remember the war for a better future is still going on, so maybe its time some of yous took your heads out of your own arses so you can see the real world for a change.

Father Damo · 29-09-2012 11:49PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I have serious distrust issues with Obama and had him well sussed out five years ago and this was before there was any wind of his controversial EO's AKA The indefinite internment of US Citizens without trial and his ability to take control of all resources even private property in a the state of emergency, and the killing of without trial

If he has given himself all of these evil powers, why does he not use them to silence critics like you? Why not kill Alex Jones? (which in truth would hardly be a bad thing). Why not have you killed, if you have him sussed? As far as I can see he uses them in circumstances where clearly guilty people are plotting attacks from the safety of places with non existant or sympathetic law enforcement. People who have often implicated themselves in their activities with released speeches and statements.

One wonders if Obama watches or reads the opinions of mentally challenged fcukwits like Alex Jones and Dave Mustaine and has a little laugh to himself. Like, if someone was accusing me, me myself, of being the anti christ and resembling Hitler, I would find it quite amusing tbh!

Run_to_da_hills · 30-09-2012 10:36AM

Father Damo wrote: »

If he has given himself all of these evil powers, why does he not use them to silence critics like you? Why not kill Alex Jones? (which in truth would hardly be a bad thing). Why not have you killed, if you have him sussed? As far as I can see he uses them in circumstances where clearly guilty people are plotting attacks from the safety of places with non existant or sympathetic law enforcement. People who have often implicated themselves in their activities with released speeches and statements.

One wonders if Obama watches or reads the opinions of mentally challenged fcukwits like Alex Jones and Dave Mustaine and has a little laugh to himself. Like, if someone was accusing me, me myself, of being the anti christ and resembling Hitler, I would find it quite amusing tbh!

He has those evil powers and no doubt he will use them, this is why he has the whole country at ransom and prepared with concentration camps. He is just waiting for the opportunity of sending his Gestapo team AKA DHS and TSA to round up his subversives just as Adolph Hitler did when he made moves on the ghettos.

Obama won't do it now because he would be afraid to rock the pre election boat and scare away all his gullible flock. Thank God I made the wise decision not to remain in the US as a migrant when I had the opportunity.

Yes Obama would love to silence Alex Jones, this is because he exposes Obama for what he actually is, ie a lying fake and a war criminal.

Interesting as you mention.

The NDAA and Obama’s secret ‘Kill List’—are you on it?

Jonny7 · 30-09-2012 10:48AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

He has those evil powers and no doubt he will use them, this is why he has the whole country at ransom and prepared with concentration camps. He is just waiting for the opportunity of sending his Gestapo team AKA DHS and TSA to round up his subversives just as Adolph Hitler did when he made moves on the ghettos.

Obama won't do it now because he would be afraid to rock the pre election boat and scare away all his gullible flock. Thank God I made the wise decision not to remain in the US as a migrant when I had the opportunity.

Yes Obama would love to silence Alex Jones, this is because he exposes Obama for what he actually is, ie a lying fake and a war criminal.

Interesting as you mention.

The NDAA and Obama’s secret ‘Kill List’—are you on it?

Well November is fast approaching, that's your prediction date for all this.

What will happen to Ireland and Irish people well the US declares martial law, throws people into FEMA camps and Obama rises as the anti-Christ..

Are you getting prepared? You could order stuff from the Alex Jones site, he seems to advertise a lot of survival gear.. niche market I guess.

Monty Burnz · 30-09-2012 10:54AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

He has those evil powers and no doubt he will use them, this is why he has the whole country at ransom and prepared with concentration camps. He is just waiting for the opportunity of sending his Gestapo team AKA DHS and TSA to round up his subversives just as Adolph Hitler did when he made moves on the ghettos.

Obama won't do it now because he would be afraid to rock the pre election boat and scare away all his gullible flock. Thank God I made the wise decision not to remain in the US as a migrant when I had the opportunity.

Yes Obama would love to silence Alex Jones, this is because he exposes Obama for what he actually is, ie a lying fake and a war criminal.

Interesting as you mention.

The NDAA and Obama’s secret ‘Kill List’—are you on it?

But why has he waited 4 years and risked another election cycle before turning in the new Hitler/Anti-Christ?

It doesn't make sense, does it?

Run_to_da_hills · 30-09-2012 11:01AM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

But why has he waited 4 years and risked another election cycle before turning in the new Hitler/Anti-Christ?

It doesn't make sense, does it?

Already explained.

Hitler took 7 years to come out of his shell.

Executive orders giving Obama these new fascist powers cannot be drafted in over night.

Monty Burnz · 30-09-2012 11:23AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Already explained.

No, you did not explain it. You said some stuff about him losing international goodwill (did not seem to bother Hitler) and about him building domestic support (which he has been steadily losing for four years).

So both of those explanations are clearly wrong.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Hitler took 7 years to come out of his shell.

How do you mean? Hitler 'came out of his shell' in 1923 - 10 years before he became chancellor. He was very much out of his shell throughout his rise to power.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Executive orders giving Obama these new fascist powers cannot be drafted in over night.

Why not? Why wait until you are in power to draft them?

It makes no sense at all, does it?

Corkfeen · 30-09-2012 03:12PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Already explained.

Hitler took 7 years to come out of his shell.

Executive orders giving Obama these new fascist powers cannot be drafted in over night.

Hitler was a couple of miles outside of his shell by the time he was elected as Chancellor. The enabling act came in shortly after him being given the role as Chancellor. While you may claim that Obama has his own, he doesn't. The persecution of Jews was ongoing.

In fact, the Nazis were doing horrible things from the very beginning(Jewish shops being boycotted etc) and he had far greater control than Hindenburg(his death fulfilling it), so he pretty much drafted in executive powers in far less than 4 years. This is well documented so if you're going to compare Hitler to people that have nothing in common with him, it is necessary to do some research.

Sarky · 30-09-2012 07:08PM

run_to_da_hills, is there any chance you could film yourself a few years from now when Obama leaves office without becoming the antichrist devil-worshipping baby eater you claim he is? I know you'll retcon your theories to fit whoever succeeds him within minutes, but I'd just like to see that one moment in your eyes when reality collides with belief.

Jenners! · 30-09-2012 11:30PM

JustinDee wrote: »

Kissinger's duplicity aside, the above is an all-too-simplistic 'summary' of East Timor's history since the 1970s.
Firstly East Timor was still in the eyes of the UN as being under Portuguese remittance.
The UN and the seven or eight countries of the EEC (there was no such thing as the EU back then) objected to Indonesia's invasion. That was it. Nothing else.
Not until 1999, was East Timor's governance taken over by anyone but the Portuguese or Indonesians (I was there with ABC Radio at the time). Soeharto was propped up during his reign for being vehemently anti-communist hence his cedence in actions over Indonesia's direct neighbour. It is only since the demise of the Soviet Union and communism, that Soeharto's regime was fair game for critique and reaction. The Indonesian oil resource is state-owned and is used more by the country itself than sold abroad ie. they are what is known as 'net importers' ie again. that they buy more than they flog. You'll find that East Timor's oil resources have always been in the eye of Australia as you'd find in the decades of ocean-boundaries debate between the two.
East Timor's tribalism within its own borders is as much as problem as any inherent post-independence fallout you attribute to its current situation.

Your figure of 200,000 dead is also double the actual accepted figures following of which approx 20,000 were actual killings. This doesn't justify anything. I just prefer to see a better grasp of the story than one side of it.

200,000 East Timorese did die, although it was from the invasion of 1974 up to 1991 I am counting from. I imagine you imply you were there for the initial invasion in 1974? In which case both of us are right, I suppose I should have clarified clearer there.

You are right that Australia was involved more so than America, my reference to East Timor however was an aspect that reflects Kissinger attitude.

In 1974 Portugal began the process of decolonisation and withdrew from the area and in 1975 it passed a law 7/75 allowing East Timor self-determination and a election to decide political power within the country. Indonesia tried covered up their invasion initially by killing Australian journalist Greg Shackleton and others, reporting on the Indo invasion.
Not only did Indonesia not have the right to try and govern East Timor, they were aware of it too.

Kissinger: Obama Will Create A New World Order

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