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Father shoots dead own son

  • 28-09-2012 12:18PM
    #1
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭


    This is a really sad story, can you imagine being in the father's place right now?
    A 15-year-old Connecticut boy was shot dead by his father on Thursday, as he tried to break into his aunt's home, police said.

    His face hidden beneath a black ski mask, Tyler Giuliano was spotted by his aunt, Alexis Scocozz, as he set about what officers believe was an attempted late-night burglary.
    Source: Daily Mail

    The guy got a phonecall from his sister that someone was attempting to break in to her house, he goes over there and discovers this guy in a ski-mask, who apparently lunged at him with "something shiny". He opens fire, killing the guy, only to discover afterwards that it was his own son.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Tragic

    Father did the right thing though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    That usually stops them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The man decided he was justified in shooting an intruder, so he did. I think it's irrelevant who the intruder was, as every intruder is someone's son.

    Hard for the father, but that's the risk you take when you pull the trigger.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Tragic. If it wasn't his son, he'd be put up as some sort of hero though.

    S'pose the kid broke into his Aunts because he knew the layout and where stuff would be to steal. But once his Dad was there he should've just given up instead of lunging at him, while his old man was holding a gun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Feel sorry for the father but the kid was an idiot to break into the house and then lunge at an armed man.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    How long was he robbing the house for . The father got a call got his gun and came over .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    NRA Nut wrote:
    "If only the son had a gun as well then he would have been able to shoot back and then it'd have evened out the stand-off eh..... wait what am I saying?"

    .


  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Like father, like son.



    Too soon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    This is a really sad story.

    I can't be the only person that laughed when he read the headline? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Am I mis reading this or did the son try and break into his aunts house??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    "Father shoots own son dead" is correct English.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mike65 wrote: »
    "Father shoots own son dead" is correct English.

    Does it really matter?

    @Cereal,
    yeah - it seems like he was breaking into his aunts' house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Unlimited Bacon


    A story fit for Greek myth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    I don't feel sorry for either of them. Father is prepared to kill someone and too bad it's his own son. The son is 15 yrs out robbing from his own family little scumbag.
    Father should have brought him up a bit better.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Originally Posted by NRA Nut
    "If only the son had a gun as well then he would have been able to shoot back and then it'd have evened out the stand-off eh..... wait what am I saying?"
    .

    I thought the NRA's pro gun agenda is based on scare mongering people into needing them to protect themselves, not to go out and attack others?
    So I'm pretty sure they'd be of the opinion that the kid ideally shouldn't have been trying to break into another persons property as well as acting in a threatening manner.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 50 ✭✭rockclover1


    nothing could be more tragic for a house break in situation like this RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Am I mis reading this or did the son try and break into his aunts house??

    No - you read it correctly.

    Which leaves one question unanswered - what was the father doing there in the middle of the night in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Am I mis reading this or did the son try and break into his aunts house??[/QUOTE

    No - you read it correctly.

    Which leaves one question unanswered - what was the father doing there in the middle of the night in the first place?


    ...maybe you should read the rest of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,831 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    No - you read it correctly.

    Which leaves one question unanswered - what was the father doing there in the middle of the night in the first place?

    His sister rang him and asked him to come over as there was a burgular. Its in the OP.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    And the award for Least Empathy Ever goes to ...
    I don't feel sorry for either of them. Father is prepared to kill someone and too bad it's his own son. The son is 15 yrs out robbing from his own family little scumbag.
    Father should have brought him up a bit better.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    No - you read it correctly.

    Which leaves one question unanswered - what was the father doing there in the middle of the night in the first place?

    Someone needs to go to specsavers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    seamus wrote: »
    Hard for the father, but that's the risk you take when you pull the trigger break into someones house.

    FYP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    Ok, so it's not funny, but this one is

    http://www.followingthenerd.com/ftn_news/boy-shoots-himself-at-school-dressed-as-two-face/

    I hope he wasn't bullied coz that's horrible, I know plenty about it from my school days but why in the name of batman Jesus *insert appropriate gawd name here would he dress up as harvey feckin dent?

    Yanks are a strange bunch. Yes, a broad sweeping generalisation, but it's true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    stevenmu wrote: »
    And the award for Least Empathy Ever goes to ...

    Who are you feeling more sorry for the killer or the burglar ?

    Forget it's father and son.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Why do they feel the need to immediately shoot to kill without exception? Yeah he's breaking into your house, but If it was me I'd shoot him in the legs, if he was unarmed that is.
    I just think gun control and gun mentality in America is too loose and engrained in them. It's right to be able to defend yourself and your family but a lot of the time it's dangerous and ends badly IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,831 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Ok, so it's not funny, but this one is

    http://www.followingthenerd.com/ftn_news/boy-shoots-himself-at-school-dressed-as-two-face/

    I hope he wasn't bullied coz that's horrible, I know plenty about it from my school days but why in the name of batman Jesus *insert appropriate gawd name here would he dress up as harvey feckin dent?

    Yanks are a strange bunch. Yes, a broad sweeping generalisation, but it's true.

    No that one was not funny either someone died. Why did he dress as him who knows maybe as it was the charity drive and he was one of his favorite characters who knows but no not funny


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Who are you feeling more sorry for the killer or the burglar ?

    Forget it's father and son.
    Why would I forget that when it's a critical part of the whole thing?

    I feel more sorry for the killer (a.k.a the father). He not only lost his son, but he is the one who killed him, and he has to live with that.

    I do think that he did the correct thing given the circumstances and information available at the time, but given how it worked out I don't see how any body could not feel sorry for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    stevenmu wrote: »
    Why would I forget that when it's a critical part of the whole thing?

    I feel more sorry for the killer (a.k.a the father). He not only lost his son, but he is the one who killed him, and he has to live with that.

    I do think that he did the correct thing given the circumstances and information available at the time, but given how it worked out I don't see how any body could not feel sorry for him.

    Would it be ok if he shot someone else's son ?
    I would have to feel more sorry for the son who for wherever reason was out robbing houses at 15yrs of age and robbing from his own aunt, maybe he thought this was better than breaking into someone else's house.

    I would question why he was out robbing houses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Tragic case.

    But the father did the right thing.

    When you believe you are under immediate and serious threat of bodily harm and/or death, the last thing you do is stop to try reason with the intruder.

    Shotgun to the head puts paid to that problem nicely.

    Not sure why the son "lunged" at him though. Whether the son was startled or not, the father had no mask on....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Why do they feel the need to immediately shoot to kill without exception? Yeah he's breaking into your house, but If it was me I'd shoot him in the legs, if he was unarmed that is.
    I just think gun control and gun mentality in America is too loose and engrained in them. It's right to be able to defend yourself and your family but a lot of the time it's dangerous and ends badly IMO.

    The son "lunged" at the father with something shiny.

    In that case, split second instinct kicks in and you aim for the largest target available; the torso.
    Unless he had military/security training, it's unlikely the father would have been able to calmly aim at the legs.


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