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Riot at FoxConn Factory

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  • 24-09-2012 4:49pm
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    eth0
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    http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/23/foxconn-taiyuan-riot/

    I thought these factories were full to the brim of people who were delighted to get a job and queued up for days hoping for vacancies, or at least thats what people who buy iProducts keep telling themselves. All to make the disposable shoite spoilt children over here get for christmas to play silly games on, do facebooking and show off to their friends.

    Another time they woke up a few thousand workers in the middle of the night to adjust the machines because some fool in California made a last minute change to the design.

    I'm surprised there are no Fairtrade Organic phones available yet because if there were all the hipsters would have to buy them regardless of cost. If someone got a beating like this at their place of work in Ireland there would be massive outrage and self-loathing but these Chinese commie savages just have no shame at all, even trying to censor it after it got reported.
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    Mickey Dazzler
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    If they fight as hard as they work it must have been some scrap.


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    MagicMarker
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    I'm picturing the scene out of the Big Boss with the giant ice cubes....


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    seamus
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    You think all of the other manufacturers pay their workers in BMWs and give then twenty hour work weeks?

    iHipsters love to iHate.


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    MidlandsM
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    idon't care



    see what i did there?


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    speedboatchase
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    Some facts for the uninformed OP:

    Every tech company you can think of has manufacturing at Foxconn - Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Acer, Cisco, Dell, Nokia, Intel. Not just Apple, but headlines usually begin with Apple because people will read the articles if they do.

    Who makes your phone? I bet they have staff working on it at Foxconn right now.

    As for the work at Foxconn, employees had their salaries doubled a few months ago and the monthly salary is nearly twice the Chinese average industrial wage http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/05/28/apples-foxconn-to-double-wages-again/

    As for why there are no 'Fairtrade Organic phones' available yet, that's because no-one in their right minds would charge into a loss-making business venture in the fastest moving, most competitive industry in the world.


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    Scioch
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    seamus wrote: »
    You think all of the other manufacturers pay their workers in BMWs and give then twenty hour work weeks?

    iHipsters love to iHate.

    Thinly veiled "I was hatin before it was cool" post. :rolleyes:


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    vicwatson
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    I'd say the workers are peed off with their 5 dollars a month salary! meantime Apple wonder what will they do with the 98 billion dollars they have in cash sitting a bank :(


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    -( i )- Wicker
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    I'll only buy free-range iPhones


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    eth0
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    seamus wrote: »
    You think all of the other manufacturers pay their workers in BMWs and give then twenty hour work weeks?

    iHipsters love to iHate.

    I'd hope not, ould BMW used to be a fancy car, now its something iPhone-toting office workers with a house in the Burbs buy to save on car tax..


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    Ghandee
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    IPhone manufacturers.


    Great bunch of lads.


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    Scioch
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    As for why there are no 'Fairtrade Organic phones' available yet, that's because no-one in their right minds would charge into a loss-making business venture in the fastest moving, most competitive industry in the world.

    Me spots a gap in the market !! Lets pool our money lads and build ourselves an techmological company !!


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    books4sale
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    The poor Chinese .......with all these high end branded westernised goods.

    Your naiviety is laughable OP.
    vicwatson wrote: »
    I'd say the workers are peed off with their 5 dollars a month salary! meantime Apple wonder what will they do with the 98 billion dollars they have in cash sitting a bank

    They'll probably move and invest it in a Chinese bank where they'll get a better return. I mean who can afford to buy Apple products these days?

    ...oh yeah, the Chinese.


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    Where To
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    No one cares.

    They are poor and foreign. They should be grateful to have a job and take pride in the fact their work enables us to have twenty different weather forecasts on our phones.


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    juan.kerr
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    Scioch wrote: »
    Thinly veiled "I was hatin before it was cool" post. :rolleyes:

    I love these 'thinly veiled' posts.


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    dr.bollocko
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    Major customers of Foxconn currently include:
    Acer Inc. (Taiwan)[41]
    Amazon.com (United States)[7]
    Apple Inc. (United States)[42]
    Cisco (United States)[43]
    Dell (United States)[44]
    Hewlett-Packard (United States)[45]
    Intel (United States)[46]
    Microsoft (United States)[9]
    Motorola Mobility (United States)[44]
    Nintendo (Japan)[47]
    Nokia (Finland)[42]
    Sony (Japan)[8]
    Toshiba (Japan) [48]
    Vizio (United States)[49]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

    So the apple bashing is a bit off as pretty much, if you are using a computer, it probably came from foxconn.


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    Duggys Housemate
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    Some facts for the uninformed OP:

    Every tech company you can think of has manufacturing at Foxconn - Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Acer, Cisco, Dell, Nokia, Intel. Not just Apple, but headlines usually begin with Apple because people will read the articles if they do.

    Who makes your phone? I bet they have staff working on it at Foxconn right now.

    As for the work at Foxconn, employees had their salaries doubled a few months ago and the monthly salary is nearly twice the Chinese average industrial wage http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/05/28/apples-foxconn-to-double-wages-again/

    As for why there are no 'Fairtrade Organic phones' available yet, that's because no-one in their right minds would charge into a loss-making business venture in the fastest moving, most competitive industry in the world.

    FoxConn have seen their wages double every two years. Thats where your pay rises are going, by the way.

    In any case you are assuming that the OP is an honest poster and is actually concerned about conditions in a plant which may, or may not be, producing Apple goods, but is certainly producing something he owns. He isn't. Its been pointed out on these boards and every other board in the country, and every other news outlet, time and time again whenever anything happens at FoxConn, that the company - which has a million employees - produces for every electronic manufacturer, not just Apple. If you wanted to see this story die, and the concern for the Chinese employees dissipate, then Apple just need to move to another company, and FoxConn can start flaying their employees alive to provide the skins for the cheap Dells, and HTC devices which the OP probably buys.

    The proof of the pie is in the eating, Apple didn't sell very much in Ireland when it was a major manufacturing presence in Cork, with good wages and great conditions. The "concerned for Apple employees" loonies were buying their Acer built by Foxconn, and they had a different reason to hate Apple.


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    Squ
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    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    the apple bashing is a bit off as pretty much, if you are using a computer, it probably came from foxconn.
    The fact that the op called Foxconn "the iproduct factory" shows how much interest he has in being on or off the mark..

    I had a quick run around the gaff there and there's not one item with a plug that wasn't made in china..

    Does that mean i've to feel guilty every time i use my Fleshlight Turbo?

    I think not.


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    #19
    General General
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    Some just found out Steve Jobs died & didn't resurrect.

    It was a lieeeeeee...


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    #20
    My name is URL
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    Foxconn isn't even a Chinese company ffs!


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    juan.kerr
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Foxconn isn't even a Chinese company ffs!

    The Chinese government might not agree.


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    Chuck Stone
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    As for the work at Foxconn, employees had their salaries doubled a few months ago and the monthly salary is nearly twice the Chinese average industrial wage

    You should read the articles you quote properly.
    Foxconn will double the minimum monthly salary of its workers in mainland China by the end of next year*

    *2013.

    Also, there were other Foxcon riots because of wage promises being withheld - promises promises.

    Also, it should be noted that salary increases promised are due to a shortage of labour rather than employer benevolence or worker agitation.


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    #23
    My name is URL
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    juan.kerr wrote: »
    The Chinese government might not agree.

    Some Dutch and Japanese may not either, but there you go!


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    ejmaztec
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Foxconn isn't even a Chinese company f foxsake!

    fixed


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    #25
    books4sale
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    I remember there was riots outside Chinese Apple stores a while back when some new Apple product went on sale.

    Apple didn't have enough product to meet demand on the day and a great bunch of lads went cracked.


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    #26
    Rigol
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    Stories with riot videos never ever live up to expectations.

    any minute now there'll be loads of clearly filmed individual fights with k.o's and counters and takedowns......but nae....just a load of shouting, some running and a siren.


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    #27
    HerrScheisse
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    They are having mass brawls because they have no other alternative since they signed contracts not to commit suicide.


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    Cienciano
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    Some facts for the uninformed OP:

    Every tech company you can think of has manufacturing at Foxconn - Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Acer, Cisco, Dell, Nokia, Intel. Not just Apple, but headlines usually begin with Apple because people will read the articles if they do.

    Who makes your phone? I bet they have staff working on it at Foxconn right now.

    As for the work at Foxconn, employees had their salaries doubled a few months ago and the monthly salary is nearly twice the Chinese average industrial wage http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/05/28/apples-foxconn-to-double-wages-again/

    As for why there are no 'Fairtrade Organic phones' available yet, that's because no-one in their right minds would charge into a loss-making business venture in the fastest moving, most competitive industry in the world.
    Not loss making, but less profit. For instance, they were making a huge profit on the iphone when it was made in USA. Production is moved to china not because it's making a loss, it's because they make bigger profit.


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    wendell borton
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    Great the chinese people have finally throw off the flithy capitalist yoke of tryranny now they can start a workers rebublic ......oh wait hasn't that already supposed to have happened?


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