2013 NFL DRAFT

Paully D · 19-07-2012 04:50PM #1

Dates: 25-27 April 2013
Location: Radio City Music Hall, NYC
TV: ESPN and NFL Network

Yes, it's way too early but I'm bored so thought I might as well create this thread and see how it develops over the coming year.

Wikipedia has some good information about draft picks which have been traded and forfeited picks - Wikipedia Link

Here's a few 2013 mock drafts (they're a bit too long to copy and paste so I'll just put the links). It will be interesting to see how they change over time as we find out the order of which team will be picking in what spot:

Sports Illustrated Mock Draft

Walter Football Mock Draft

Matt Miller Power Ranking The Top 50 Players

Drafttek Mock Draft

Fox Sports Mock Draft

Any thoughts, predictions, hopes etc fire away

davyjose · 19-07-2012 06:00PM

Hmm Barkley 3rd QB on the board? Colts drafting an offensive lineman with the 2nd pick? Someone needs to quit their day job.

Mr. Guappa · 19-07-2012 06:07PM

Only 30 picks in the 2nd round following the Saints bountygate punishment and the Browns supplemental pick.

Also, the Patriots have no extra picks :eek:

JaMarcus Hustle · 19-07-2012 06:17PM

Loving Paully's transition into full-blown draft nerd

Apart from that handsome chap in my signature, my favourite prospects this year are Star Lotulelei (by far the most talented overall in the draft imo), Manti Te'o and of course Marcus Lattimore. The two junior defensive ends from LSU are pretty damn awesome as well, just like a couple of pitbulls either side of the defensive line.

mikemac1 · 19-07-2012 06:18PM

25. Baltimore Ravens -- Ray-Ray Armstrong, S, Miami

I say yay to this

Edit, huge need at left tackle too, that has to be looked at too.

JaMarcus Hustle · 19-07-2012 06:21PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I say yay to this

Ol' Ray-Ray was kicked off the team yesterday :pac:

TaosHum · 19-07-2012 06:24PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I say yay to this

Edit, huge need at left tackle too, that has to be looked at too.

Wouldn't have him in the 1st round at the moment. Where he transfers to will be vital (if he transfers at all).

mikemac1 · 19-07-2012 06:41PM

Oh dear, I wasn't aware he was dismissed from the program

I take it back so

Give my Ravens an offensive tackle! :cool:

UCD AFC · 19-07-2012 08:14PM

Will he transfer to a different college soon? Or could he become a supplemental draft guy?

HigginsJ · 19-07-2012 08:47PM

Barkley a lock to go 1st with the talent around him.

Be interesting to see where the HoneyBadger gets drafted. If he plays like the season just gone he could crack the top 5 imo. Size is an issue (as well as off-field distractions) but overall he is too talented to fall too far.

Personally will hold fire on my judgement of Lattimore. If he bounces back from injury he'll be top 10.

Barrett Jones is moving to centre for Alabama this year. If he plays well he will have played OG, LT and C in 4 years. On pure talent and "safe" pick Jones is a lock to be an NFL All-Pro line-man. Only question is where someone is drafting him for. Had he stayed at LT for another year and played as well he could have been top 5. Not sure how high someone would draft an OG or C but irregardless whoever picks him will be happy.

JaMarcus Hustle · 19-07-2012 09:08PM

UCD AFC wrote: »

Will he transfer to a different college soon? Or could he become a supplemental draft guy?

Well there's only one supplemental draft a year, so he's too late to enter it this year. He'll go into next years regular draft. To be fair, Miami have handled this with a lot of class. They've allowed him to stay on at the university with his full scholarship, but they'll also grant him a full release if that's what he wants. He'll definitely transfer, no question about it really.

GoldFour4 · 19-07-2012 09:10PM

I think its a bit early to be judging next years draft before the season. That said Marcus Lattimore is going to be a solid NFL guy provided South Carolina doesn't run him into the ground this year ! That first mock draft has Barkley going 8th which I just can't see. If he's still available after no.1 then someone will trade up for sure.

matthew8 · 19-07-2012 09:11PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I say yay to this

Edit, huge need at left tackle too, that has to be looked at too.

LT isn't too huge a need. Reid should be up to tackle by next year. If he can only play on the right, we can just shift Oher, again.

GoldFour4 · 19-07-2012 09:11PM

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Well there's only one supplemental draft a year, so he's too late to enter it this year. He'll go into next years regular draft. To be fair, Miami have handled this with a lot of class. They've allowed him to stay on at the university with his full scholarship, but they'll also grant him a full release if that's what he wants. He'll definitely transfer, no question about it really.

What did he do to get kicked out btw ?

JaMarcus Hustle · 19-07-2012 09:19PM

malachyscott wrote: »

What did he do to get kicked out btw ?

He was suspended for the first few games of the season for accepting benefits from a booster. Miami got a lot of heat over all the cash he gave to the team. Players were asked to be careful but Armstrong then went to dinner with a guy who owns a PR company who represent pro athletes (frowned upon by the NCAA). Miami are still under investigation over the whole booster affair so they obviously a) didn't trust Armstrong, or more likely, b) wanted to show the NCAA they were taking action themselves.

matthew8 · 19-07-2012 09:31PM

Baltimore's potential needs going into the 2013 draft. LT if Reid doesn't work out. C if Gradkowski doesn't work out. Always thinking about MLB too. If Streeter isn't good enough a third WR would be good, but not if Cameron keeps doing the same thing he usually does.

mikemac1 · 20-07-2012 12:55AM

matthew8 wrote: »

LT isn't too huge a need. Reid should be up to tackle by next year. If he can only play on the right, we can just shift Oher, again.

Jah Reid is slooooooooooow
He'll be a good RT but he's no LT, not from what I've seen

As for Oher, I wouldn't be suprised if the team let him walk. Zero confidence in big Mike at LT

It's a serious need, to be addressed next draft

matthew8 · 20-07-2012 02:04AM

I highly doubt the team will let 2 first round picks in a row walk. And there's no guarantee his replacement would be better either. He can block and move, I have no doubt about that.

Paully D · 20-07-2012 02:33AM

matthew8 wrote: »

I highly doubt the team will let 2 first round picks in a row walk. And there's no guarantee his replacement would be better either. He can block and move, I have no doubt about that.

Just had a quick look at the stats and Oher gave up 10 sacks, 7 hits and 43 hurries last season. He also gave up 11 penalties. He definitely needs to improve. He has showed some potential at times and he certainly can move, but he needs to get more consistent and quickly IMO.

At camp Oher played LT, Reid RT, but if McKinnie can get in shape then he'll more than likely play LT with Oher RT. Neither of them fill me with much confidence though, Oher has his problems as mentioned above and McKinnie, who it's a constant battle to keep in condition, can't run block, gave up 7 sacks, 9 hits and 39 hurries plus 7 penalties last season.

It is a problem position at the minute. It's a huge season coming up for all concerned which will tell us a lot.

That said we did have the 8th best O-Line statistically last year so we could be much worse off.

Paully D · 23-09-2012 05:30PM

So a few weeks into the 2012/2013 college season, who is impressing and disappointing you, with an early eye on the draft?

JaMarcus Hustle · 23-09-2012 05:32PM

Have a feeling that Geno Smith will challenge Barkley as the first overall pick.

Stev_o · 23-09-2012 05:32PM

Landry Jones stock is going down imo, guys like EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are really really impressive 1st round candidates.

SantryRed · 23-09-2012 05:43PM

Te'o is just looking better and better.

RGIII · 23-09-2012 09:27PM

Stev_o wrote: »

Landry Jones stock is going down imo, guys like EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are really really impressive 1st round candidates.

Manuel is an athlete playing QB. Doesn't really know how to play the QB position e.g. reading defenses, going through his progressions, anticipating routes. Late round project for me.

Bar Geno Smith, most of the top draftable QBs are looking poor. Could be a very weak class. Geno Smith #1 pick for me.

Stev_o · 23-09-2012 09:34PM

RGIII wrote: »

Manuel is an athlete playing QB. Doesn't really know how to play the QB position e.g. reading defenses, going through his progressions, anticipating routes. Late round project for me.

Bar Geno Smith, most of the top draftable QBs are looking poor. Could be a very weak class. Geno Smith #1 pick for me.

I disagree if you watched him vs Clemson he was very poised, operates from under the centre a lot more then Geno does. I think if the 'Noles continue their BCS run he could sneak into the first round. A team will like his Cam Newton esque qualities.

RGIII · 23-09-2012 09:52PM

Stev_o wrote: »

I disagree if you watched him vs Clemson he was very poised, operates from under the centre a lot more then Geno does. I think if the 'Noles continue their BCS run he could sneak into the first round. A team will like his Cam Newton esque qualities.

Smith played in a pro style offence his sophomore season and produced so the spread offence doesn't affect his stock much for me. Manuel had a great game but still didn't display any pro potential. I'll be shocked if he's a first round pick.

Stev_o · 23-09-2012 10:18PM

RGIII wrote: »

Smith played in a pro style offence his sophomore season and produced so the spread offence doesn't affect his stock much for me. Manuel had a great game but still didn't display any pro potential. I'll be shocked if he's a first round pick.

Tannehill got picked in the 1st for a lot less then what you'd get for Manuel. Though I do admit that he is very check down short yardage prone. I just think that come the combine you ll be hearing people gawp over his size and athleticism. He'll be a media 1st rounder.

JaMarcus Hustle · 23-09-2012 10:22PM

Tannehill was in a much more shallow QB class though.

EJ Manuel will have to compete with Barkley, Smith, Murray, Wilson and Bray amongst others (assuming they declare, though I doubt Murray and Bray will) who are all obviously better prospects than him. The likes of Logan Thomas and Landry Jones should salvage some of their stock this year you'd think, although again, I'd be shocked if Thomas declared.

Who'll be in the market for a 1st round QB anyway? There's not many. Raiders, Jets and Chiefs would be the only ones who could point to a QB as their number 1 need. There's a few other teams who have rookie/2nd year QBs who are unlikely to give up on them so soon (Cleveland, Jacksonville, Miami etc.)

RGIII · 24-09-2012 06:52AM

Tannehill showed he could read defences and look off the safeties though. Even though he had limited starts, he had the nuances of the QB position down. Can't see a team taking a huge risk on Manuel to develop when so many rookie QBs are starting these days.

Paully D · 18-10-2012 09:35PM

The Jaguars are the bookies favourite to land the #1 pick per Bovada. Chiefs and Browns 2nd and 3rd. Source below:

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2012/10/18/3521784/nfl-draft-2013-odds-first-pick-jaguars

Also, Walter Football has now updated their mock draft to be accurate as of 2 days ago. Quite a good read as they have a detailed description on each pick and go for 3 rounds. I've included the links to round 1 below:

Part 1 - http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php
Part 2 - http://walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php

eagle eye · 18-10-2012 10:15PM

Paully D wrote: »

The Jaguars are the bookies favourite to land the #1 pick per Bovada. Chiefs and Browns 2nd and 3rd. Source below:

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2012/10/18/3521784/nfl-draft-2013-odds-first-pick-jaguars

Also, Walter Football has now updated their mock draft to be accurate as of 2 days ago. Quite a good read as they have a detailed description on each pick and go for 3 rounds. I've included the links to round 1 below:

Part 1 - http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php
Part 2 - http://walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php

Its actually quite awful.

2013 NFL DRAFT

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