Stolen iPad

Muir · 19-09-2012 10:22PM

jonon9 wrote: »

That reminds me a secondary school in Ennis introduced a new thing in this year that was passed by the 1st year students's parents that all 1st yrs were to have iPad 3 believe it or not its true I was disgusted by this, 600 quid for an iPad and 350 quid for the books that go on it, I remember talking to some parents that voted against it and they were outraged by this say they couldn't even afford that price. now I'm a techy guy but I honestly think this is ridiculous
it might be somewhat acceptable for 3 to 5 yr but not 1st yrs

In Crumlin they brought this in but the parents pay €150 a year & the students can keep the iPads. Very reasonable since my niece's books for 1st year alone cost over €450. One of the big reasons behind it is the weight of the books students are carrying.

keith16 · 19-09-2012 10:26PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

It would be for people who want to help. It's not buying someone an ipad as a gift, it's replacing an ipad which was stolen in school

If you hear of someone's car being stolen do you say the same thing? Or their house broken into?
It was stolen, she wasn't using it as a frisbee and accidentally threw it too far

If she did leave it in her bag and it was nicked from there then I'm not sure it should be replaced. The school should have a policy that any valuables should be left somewhere secure if not being used (even lockers are probably not up to the job).

Schools are big places, especially when everyone is outside on break.

frozenfrozen · 19-09-2012 10:27PM

strobe wrote: »

Where'd a 13 year old get a 400 euro iPad in the first place? Some person obviously has more money than sense... can't the same person just dish out another 400?

Same deal as buying a 13 year old moving half way across the world a laptop, just it's an ipad, so they can talk to their family

My name is URL · 19-09-2012 10:30PM

Gyalist wrote: »

I don't see what's so strange about it.

You don't see what's strange about a 12 year old kid being shipped off to a foreign country (sans famille) to learn the language? English ain't all that greatly teached here to begin with in anyways =p

I dunno.. guess I'm just odd. I'd never send my 12 year old kid off to China to live with a strange family just to learn how to speak Mandarin, and it's probably a more useful one to be proficient in at this point in time!

kowloon · 19-09-2012 10:31PM

Muir wrote: »

In Crumlin they brought this in but the parents pay €150 a year & the students can keep the iPads. Very reasonable since my niece's books for 1st year alone cost over €450. One of the big reasons behind it is the weight of the books students are carrying.

Do they need to have the expensive fashionable tablet though? They need it no more than they need prada schoolbags. It's not fair on the people who have to pay for it.

Cookie_Monster · 19-09-2012 10:35PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

I was trying to think of a way to replace this

insurance claim...

BillyMitchel · 19-09-2012 10:35PM

I used to teach in Korea and the English names they'd give themselves would be focking hilarious. It would all be video game characters or the latest superhero in a movie. Had a kid who wouldn't do anything until he was called bumblebee!!

Never heard of a Korean kid been sent off abroad. Standard of education in Korea is extremely high and most would have a good standard of English by first year plus families are mental about kids learning American english. Sucks to be a Korean kid student, they even spend their holidays doing extra classes and some wouldn't stop till 10 at night!

OP get a letter from the principle and go to an apple shop and maybe they could help, most high brands have a certain amount that they can give to charity and might knock a good percentage off and pack bags in the local supermarket for the rest.

frozenfrozen · 19-09-2012 10:35PM

kowloon wrote: »

Do they need to have the expensive fashionable tablet though? They need it no more than they need prada schoolbags. It's not fair on the people who have to pay for it.

iPad charging and docking stations are a huge reason for schools to go for it, iOS has a lot of developers behind it.

and if everyone has an ipad, then everyone has an ipad. Every week there could be the newest and best android tablet out and that would be more prada-schoolbag-ish than paying extra for an ipad.

keith16 · 19-09-2012 10:41PM

BillyMitchel wrote: »

OP get a letter from the principle and go to an apple shop and maybe they could help, most high brands have a certain amount that they can give to charity and might knock a good percentage off and pack bags in the local supermarket for the rest.

You can fcuk right off if you think I'm letting some kids near my groceries because some little dear was foolish enough to leave her i-pad lying around.

For fcuks sake. Woe betide me if I came home from school without so much as a football I brought in got nicked.

Let this be a valuable life lesson for her. The school should have a hard think about how it can prevent this kind of petty theft too, it's not rocket science.

hearny · 19-09-2012 10:44PM

Did somebody try to locate the ipad using the inbuilt app "Find my iphone".

Have the child login to https://www.icloud.com/
with their Apple ID and see if it can be traced.

jonon9 · 19-09-2012 10:44PM

I can understand the schoolbag weight issue but I really think this will lead to more and more Ipad theft if this really hits schools big time, seems books are becoming obsolete then?

starbelgrade · 19-09-2012 10:45PM

Back in my day, the girls in school would be lucky if they had gee pads, let alone iPads.

yoyo · 19-09-2012 10:46PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

iPad charging and docking stations are a huge reason for schools to go for it, iOS has a lot of developers behind it.

and if everyone has an ipad, then everyone has an ipad. Every week there could be the newest and best android tablet out and that would be more prada-schoolbag-ish than paying extra for an ipad.

Going to be expensive when the ipads need upgrading and then the docking stations either needing replacing or a pricey flimsy adaptor

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Nick

jonon9 · 19-09-2012 10:46PM

also forgot to add isn't that why schools have locker rooms to prevent over weight bags and carrying books thats not needed. My nephew had to pay for a locker (understandable) but then he had to pay for a lock for the locker :eek:

BillyMitchel · 19-09-2012 10:48PM

keith16 wrote: »

BillyMitchel wrote: »

OP get a letter from the principle and go to an apple shop and maybe they could help, most high brands have a certain amount that they can give to charity and might knock a good percentage off and pack bags in the local supermarket for the rest.

You can fcuk right off if you think I'm letting some kids near my groceries because some little dear was foolish enough to leave her i-pad lying around.

For fcuks sake. Woe betide me if I came home from school without so much as a football I brought in got nicked.

Let this be a valuable life lesson for her. The school should have a hard think about how it can prevent this kind of petty theft too, it's not rocket science.

Same here, when I was in school if something was stolen that was it. Teachers can only do so much but at the same time the most expensive thing kids had when I was in school was a nice pen!

BobbyPropane · 19-09-2012 10:49PM

Buy her a cheaper tablet, they all have Google translate.

On another note iPads in school is a poorly thought idea. Target for robbers not to mention it being a distraction itself as as well as having to charge it and control a class of teenagers with iPads. There are other reasons too

kowloon · 19-09-2012 10:54PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

iPad charging and docking stations are a huge reason for schools to go for it, iOS has a lot of developers behind it.

and if everyone has an ipad, then everyone has an ipad. Every week there could be the newest and best android tablet out and that would be more prada-schoolbag-ish than paying extra for an ipad.

At least there's some reasoning behind it I suppose, but if the school are forcing people to buy a particular model it should stop any of that tablet snobbery, or whatever you want to call it. Of course there is the issue of what happens when they get broken, but that problem would exist for an Apple tablet too.

It's just a massive expense when you have to pay for the books anyway, albeit in digital form. Having children starting secondary must be some serious stress on the parents, and their bank accounts.

eth0 · 19-09-2012 10:56PM

I don't consider helping fund some locked down closed source glued shut and designed to break after 2 years iProduct as a charity. Its a fooking luxury good ffs and for this child any ould half way decent laptop should do the job.

Really there should be a charity set up to help the poor sods who have to work in the Foxconn factory or to help the families of those who commited suicide. They're a lot worse off than some Korean beour living in Ireland

Fr_Dougal · 19-09-2012 11:02PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Back in my day, the girls in school would be lucky if they had gee pads, let alone iPads.

Back in my day we didn't have schools 'cos we worked down pit.

eth0 · 19-09-2012 11:04PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Back in my day we didn't have schools 'cos we worked down pit.

Back in my day we had no pit to work down.

Renn · 19-09-2012 11:10PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

and if everyone has an ipad, then everyone has an ipad.

Nice to see that Apple have got you.

keith16 · 19-09-2012 11:13PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Back in my day we didn't have schools 'cos we worked down pit.

Lucky bastards, we dreamed of having a pit to work. Oh no, it was off to the swamp with us.

kowloon · 19-09-2012 11:17PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

OnTheCounter · 19-09-2012 11:25PM

Announce tomorrow that on friday you will be going from class to class selling raffle tickets for e2.

winner gets a new ipad.

korean gets an ipad.

remaining balance donated to local charity.

ipads delivered monday at school.

job done.

holystungun9 · 20-09-2012 12:35AM

phasers wrote: »

speaking from the point of view of a 13 year old, if I found out my school was using my hard earned pocket money to buy some other kid in the school an ipad i'd be pretty pissed off. If she can't look after it she shouldn't have one.

Buy her an android tablet yourself if you feel so bad for her.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

You're 13! Your join date in 06 so you were 7 when you joined boards!
Your poor mind must be in bits. I'm calling the services.

Canis Lupus · 20-09-2012 01:03AM

In two minds about this:

Firstly, it's nice to be nice. Foreign girl, lost something expensive and important, have a whip around and replace it.

However....

Foreign girl in Ireland with host family is probably from a wealthy family that can have it replaced for her as fast as it takes to get money into her account and yeah, she learns to keep an eye on it in future. Plus... an ipad is a luxury item regardless of how she uses it.. It's possibly a bit too much to ask people to pay to replace it regardless that it was stolen.

ringadingding · 20-09-2012 01:17AM

keith16 wrote: »

This happens a lot in large corporations that have Asian operations. The business language is English, and, so I've heard, the worker bees want to have "Western" names and often pick the names themselves.

I knew one bloke who's real name was Kim Po Something or other, but insisted we call him Noel :pac:

I worked with a crew of Chinese lads In kitchens a few years ago, all of them chose jackie as their English name after jackie chan.
We had tiny jack, little jack, middle jack and big jack. And one just jack.

Just jack had the most kudos of them all .....

wilkie2006 · 20-09-2012 01:31AM

I agree that it's really, really unfair and sad that this has happened to the girl. However, given the widespread poverty in South Korea (I assume she's not from North K), if her family can afford to send her to a school in Ireland and to buy her an Ipad they're probably very, very, very wealthy by both Irish and Korean standards. I'm not saying this should excuse the theft or that you shouldn't help her, I'm just saying that she's probably not in dire straits.

BOF666 · 20-09-2012 01:46AM

OnTheCounter wrote: »

Announce tomorrow that on friday you will be going from class to class selling raffle tickets for e2.

winner gets a new ipad.

Do you know a priest who owns an iPad you could borrow?

I might have an idea... :cool:

Scruffles · 20-09-2012 03:22AM

keith16 wrote: »

You can fcuk right off if you think I'm letting some kids near my groceries because some little dear was foolish enough to leave her i-pad lying around.

For fcuks sake. Woe betide me if I came home from school without so much as a football I brought in got nicked.

Let this be a valuable life lesson for her. The school should have a hard think about how it can prevent this kind of petty theft too, it's not rocket science.

indeed.

if was in the OPs position woud personaly rather do something that will have a profound effect on a child or adults life instead-campaigning for basic spec ipads with proloquo2go- for people such as profound autistic that have very limited if any communication beyond behaviors at all; that program allows people to communicate in pictures,voice and text-for some people;its for the first time their views are heard,it reduces their stress and behaviors as well as the stress in the family,makes them more independant and interactive.
one of the lads am living with has no useable language at all apart from 'door' when someone knocks and that program has changed his life-however if his mum hadnt been rich he woud never have been able to get either ipad or program.
no one campaigns for him or the many like him who cannot commuicate in text either so why shoud someone who doesnt need an ipad be fundraised for?

there are super cheap tablets she coud save for or be bought she doesnt need an ipad.

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