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Chris O'Dowd's correction of interviewer who called him "British"

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  • #182
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    conorhal wrote: »
    TheRealist101 wrote: »
    Countries mean nothing.

    I laugh when people say they are proud to be Irish.How can you be proud of something you had no effect on whatsoever?

    So what are you doing on boards.ie?

    You don't have to be "proud to be Irish" to be interested in the affairs of your region. Living in Ireland, you'll usually find Irish discussions more relevant than discussions on UK, French or Aussie message boards.

    Anyway I thought Chris O'Dowd also handled the thing very well; very grown up. No triumphalism, straight to the point, good work.


  • #183
    MakeEmLaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    MajorMax wrote: »
    The weird thing about the revisions is that both ip addresses are Irish, 1 with a ip with eircom in Galway and one with an ip with Vodafone in an unknown location. So it's 2 paddys arguing about whether another Paddy is irish or not :o

    This doesn't really surprise me. Many people who live in Ireland are very possessive over what it means to be Irish, and have advanced their own narrow view of Irish identity.

    They sneer at athletes like Michael Conlan and Paddy Barnes representing Ireland in the Olympics, because they were born outside of the Republic.

    They sneer when the likes of Shane MacGowan or Dermot O'Leary define themselves as Irish, because both were born in England.

    And they also sneer at Irish-born people who emigrate from Ireland for the sake of their livelihood. This list includes Dara O Briain, Graham Norton, Terry Wogan, Graham Linehan, Eamonn Andrews, Dave Allen, Una Healy and now Chris O'Dowd.

    Well, how Chris O'Dowd defines himself is much more important than some anonymous internet troll, and as can be seen in this video, he defines himself as Irish.


  • #184
    later12
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    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    And they also sneer at Irish-born people who emigrate from Ireland for the sake of their livelihood. This list includes Dara O Briain, Graham Norton, Terry Wogan, Graham Linehan, Eamonn Andrews, Dave Allen, Una Healy and now Chris O'Dowd.

    Who actually does that:confused:


  • #185
    MakeEmLaugh
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    later12 wrote: »
    Who actually does that:confused:

    Well, look at the previous comments. Some people - Irish people too, mind - are accusing Chris O'Dowd of not really being Irish because he lives and works in England.

    When Terry Wogan was voted the Greatest Living Irish Broadcaster, many people called in to Joe Duffy saying he wasn't really Irish, because he earned his money in England.

    And Dara O Briain, when he last appeared on the Late Late Show, spoke of internet trolls on twitter attacking him with the prefix "Wogan's heir", as if being an Irish presenter working in Britain was something to be ashamed of.

    I've seen and heard it several times.


  • #186
    MHalberstram
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    I had to look up imdb to find out who this guy is. Have never seen anything he was in.


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  • #187
    later12
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    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    Well, look at the previous comments. Some people - Irish people too, mind - are accusing Chris O'Dowd of not really being Irish because he lives and works in England.
    No they're not.

    People have mentioned that you could understand the woman's mistake, because she associates him with British TV, and that's where he's made his name.

    Nobody is sneering at him for working in the UK; nobody is claiming that makes him less Irish.
    When Terry Wogan was voted the Greatest Living Irish Broadcaster, many people called in to Joe Duffy saying he wasn't really Irish, because he earned his money in England.
    I think the argument was that he wasn't a working broadcaster in Ireland, not that he isn't Irish.

    I don't know anything about the Dara O'Briain situation you cited, but you also cited lots of other Irish people working in entertainment industry in the UK or internationally & I have never heard anybody "sneer" at them for doing so. I think people just wish them well and get on with it.


  • #188
    MakeEmLaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    later12 wrote: »
    No they're not.

    People have mentioned that you could understand the woman's mistake, because she associates him with British TV, and that's where he's made his name.

    Nobody is sneering at him for working in the UK; nobody is claiming that makes him less Irish.

    I think the argument was that he wasn't a working broadcaster in Ireland, not that he isn't Irish.

    I don't know anything about the Dara O'Briain situation you cited, but you also cited lots of other Irish people working in entertainment industry in the UK or internationally & I have never heard anybody "sneer" at them for doing so. I think people just wish them well and get on with it.

    Take a look at post #53. It reads "I assumed [Chris O'Dowd] got the job because he was mates with fellow Brit and londoner Graham Linehan they formed a friendship when they where introduced by the British talkshow host Grahan Norton or it might have been sir Terry Wogan."

    Perhaps you haven't heard people sneer at the likes of Eamonn Andrews, Dave Allen, Una Healy, Ed Byrne and so on, but I have both heard it in conversation and seen it posted on websites like boards.ie.

    This snide attitude towards Irish people who move to England does exist, whether you've witnessed it or not.


  • #189
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    After Hours should be renamed the nationalistic identity insecurity forum, seems to be nothing but endless obsession over what the british think and say about it. It's pathetic.


  • #190
    Border-Rat
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    Director John McTiernan (Die Hard, Hunt for Red October, Predator etc) is fiercely proud of his Irish ancestry. He said he turned down directing Patriot Games because it portrayed the IRA too negatively.


  • #191
    Ash.J.Williams
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    Border-Rat wrote: »
    Director John McTiernan (Die Hard, Hunt for Red October, Predator etc) is fiercely proud of his Irish ancestry. He said he turned down directing Patriot Games because it portrayed the IRA too negatively.
    that makes him a dick does it not?


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  • #192
    later12
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    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    Take a look at post #53. It reads "I assumed [Chris O'Dowd] got the job because he was mates with fellow Brit and londoner Graham Linehan they formed a friendship when they where introduced by the British talkshow host Grahan Norton or it might have been sir Terry Wogan."
    I'm pretty sure that poster was making a statement about Irish people being mistaken as British, not actually "sneering" at Irish people who work in Britain. I think you've picked him up completely wrongly.

    edit: no, it was Colmustard trolling. Colmustard was not sneering at them because they work in Britain, he says he considers himself a "West Brit".
    Perhaps you haven't heard people sneer at the likes of Eamonn Andrews, Dave Allen, Una Healy, Ed Byrne and so on, but I have both heard it in conversation and seen it posted on websites like boards.ie.
    Yeah I have heard people expressing dislike for one or two of these, but not because they live in the UK ffs.


  • #193
    LordSutch
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    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    Many people who live in Ireland are very possessive over what it means to be Irish, and have advanced their own narrow view of Irish identity.

    As somebody who has lived and worked outside the state for many years I can confirm this to be very true, and sadly the longer I am back here the more I seem to be blending in and conforming (at least publicly) to the 'narrow norm', for the sake of a less bumpy ride . . .


  • #194
    Border-Rat
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    that makes him a dick does it not?

    If it does, then everyone who celebrated the actions of the IRA in Dublin in 2006 are also dicks.


  • #195
    Helix
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    Colmustard wrote: »
    why does this only seem to matter to the Irish.

    it doesnt

    try calling a canadian an american and see how it goes down


  • #196
    LordSutch
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    Helix wrote: »
    it doesnt

    try calling a canadian an american and see how it goes down

    Here's an answer I already made, earlier in this thread > http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80676853&postcount=158


  • #197
    dark crystal
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    Helix wrote: »
    it doesnt

    try calling a canadian an american and see how it goes down

    Or a New Zealander an Australian.


  • #198
    Sound of Silence
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    As somebody who has lived and worked outside the state for many years I can confirm this to be very true, and sadly the longer I am back here the more I seem to be blending in and conforming (at least publicly) to the 'narrow norm', for the sake of a less bumpy ride . . .

    I don't know if an Anglophile World view qualifies as an identity, as much as appreciating Roman ingenuity makes me a different sort of Irishman.

    I think it comes down to whether or not someone would actually want to identify themselves as Irish. From reading some of your previous posts, I'm not sure you qualify in that regard, as I'm sure you're more embarrassed to be Irish than anything else.

    In regards to Rory, he's obviously made his own decision, as every person in Northern Ireland subconsciously does. While I'm sure he's alienated more than a few fans, In the end I believe it's better that he plays for the UK rather than Ireland, as ultimately I'd much rather an Athlete that actually has a desire and drive to play for his chosen squad rather than someone who is simply resigned to the role.


  • #199
    languagenerd
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    I think many people here missed the point of the OP - was he not saying that O'Dowd has the right idea and this is how we should go about it? (i.e. not getting overly angry or aggressive, just correcting them firmly and politely?)

    If someone called me British, I would correct them the same way I've corrected people who have mistaken me for American, French, Canadian and Arabic (that was a weird one, I have red hair ffs! :P) in the past. It's not a big deal unless you make it one. Unfortunately, people are sensitive about being called British because of our history - and I think we'll know the day that we've moved on as a nation when everyone's able to correct people who mistake their identity without thinking anything major about it.

    That said, it does grate on me when bands say "Hello, UK!" or "It's our first time touring Britain!" on-stage. You're being paid to be here, at least know where "here" is! :pac:


  • #200
    MakeEmLaugh
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    Sound of Silence wrote: »
    In regards to Rory, he's obviously made his own decision, as every person in Northern Ireland subconsciously does. While I'm sure he's alienated more than a few fans, In the end I believe it's better that he plays for the UK rather than Ireland, as ultimately I'd much rather an Athlete that actually has a desire and drive to play for his chosen squad rather than someone who is simply resigned to the role.

    Think you've got the wrong thread, mate.


  • #201
    Wacker The Attacker
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    I was mistaken for a cork person once even though i have a fairly strong dublin accent.

    I didnt correct them, I punched them


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  • #202
    jellygems
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    Quorum wrote: »
    Shane McGowan IS British.

    good haha


  • #203
    admiralofthefleet
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    sure lady gaga said at the aviva at the weekend 'its great to be back in the uk' before being corrected
    they dont teach geography in us and a


  • #204
    efb
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    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    sure lady gaga said at the aviva at the weekend 'its great to be back in the uk' before being corrected
    they dont teach geography in us and a

    when did she say that? I didnt hear it.


  • #205
    admiralofthefleet
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    efb wrote: »
    when did she say that? I didnt hear it.

    it was in the sun today


  • #206
    MakeEmLaugh
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    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    sure lady gaga said at the aviva at the weekend 'its great to be back in the uk' before being corrected
    they dont teach geography in us and a

    In fairness, Lady Gaga also brandished the Tricolour in Belfast before, much to her audience's dismay. She really isn't the most knowledgeable when it comes to this island.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/blazing-row-over-lady-gagas-irish-flag-stunt-14992993.html


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