In defence of Bikers

Run_to_da_hills · 12-09-2012 10:39PM #1

Motorcyclists in Ireland often get treated like absolute dirt by some vehicle drivers on Irish roads particularly taxis.

I've been witness motorcyclists suffering intimidation who were forced off the road by a maniac caged drivers.

Motorcyclists don't even have the privilege of any designated lane, even bus lanes which are often vacant, they are forced to filter through traffic with idiots opening doors and also having to avoid cyclists that refuse to use designated lanes.

A lot of cage drivers take absolutely no precautions towards bikers and fail to treat a fellow road user as they would someone driving a cage.

Anyway its high time Bikers were treated with a bit of respect and understanding in Ireland.

BTW Bikers have now to put up with all sorts of fascist EU regulations unlike cyclists.

And those central median "cheese graters" that only Bikers have to fear.

Wazdakka · 12-09-2012 10:45PM

Agreed.

But....
And I say this as the proud owner of an XL600V...

There are a lot of complete nut jobs out there on bikes that drive like absolute cúnts!

Because I own a bike, when I'm in the tin can going to work I keep an eye out and try to give bikers space wherever I can.
But some of these fúckers are just nuts! :eek:

eth0 · 12-09-2012 10:46PM

Great bunch of lads, havn't a bad word to say about em.

Anyone who complains about bikers or wants to see their pastime further oppressed by government is a gobsh1te of the highest order

Turpentine · 12-09-2012 10:47PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Motorcyclists in Ireland often get treated like absolute dirt by some vehicle drivers on Irish roads particularly taxis.

I've been witness motorcyclists suffering intimidation who were forced off the road by a maniac caged drivers.

Motorcyclists don't even have the privilege of any designated lane, even bus lanes which are often vacant, they are forced to filter through traffic with idiots opening doors and also having to avoid cyclists that refuse to use designated lanes.

A lot of cage drivers take absolutely no precautions towards bikers and fail to treat a fellow road user as they would someone driving a cage.

Anyway its high time Bikers were treated with a bit of respect and understanding in Ireland.

BTW Bikers have now to put up with all sorts of fascist EU regulations unlike cyclists.

"Cage" driver? Lots of sharks on the M50 alright.

Run_to_da_hills · 12-09-2012 10:49PM

Wazdakka wrote: »

Agreed.

But....
And I say this as the proud owner of an XL600V...

There are a lot of complete nut jobs out there on bikes that drive like absolute cúnts!

Because I own a bike, when I'm in the can going to work I keep an eye out and try to give bikers space where I can.
But some of these fúckers are just nuts! :eek:

Oil cooled GZXR 750 L and Bros 400 here.

blacklilly · 12-09-2012 10:59PM

I was in Kerry recently and was delighted to see a group of bikers driving within the speed limit, I'm always conscious of bikers when out driving.
However there's a group of bikers who use my local road most Sundays and they're bloody nuts, I've no idea how there hasn't been a serious accident yet. Not long ago I was riding my horse on the road and the bikers gave absolutely no consideration, my horse spooked and I came off, she's usually very quiet and use to traffic.
There is s minority group of bikers that give the majority a bad name in saying that I've seen less bikers speeding lately

General General · 12-09-2012 11:01PM

It's those Charlie's Angles I don't like.

phasers · 12-09-2012 11:03PM

...they're called cars.

It's like you want motorists to hate you.

NegativeCreep · 12-09-2012 11:04PM

No issue with motorcyclists at all. Their cool, keep themselves to themselves.
It's those push-bike cyclists you have to look out for. Their sooo annoying!

Yamanoto · 12-09-2012 11:07PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Bikers have now to put up with all sorts of fascist EU regulations unlike cyclists.

Any details as to what horrors Oberst-Gruppenführer Barroso has inflicted upon you?

blacklilly · 12-09-2012 11:08PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

No issue with motorcyclists at all. Their cool, keep themselves to themselves.
It's those push-bike cyclists you have to look out for. Their sooo annoying!

Especially when they cycle on some of the most dangerous, narrow, bendy roads, 2 abreast or worse still, when they're so unfit they can barely make it up a hill on a narrow, bendy road and you're stuck behind them infatuated with the way in which their arse moves

Sir Pompous Righteousness · 12-09-2012 11:09PM

Bikers in Ireland should really attach a skull to their handlebars and have a face that screams death metal. Then there'll be no messin' I tell ye.

Ghandee · 12-09-2012 11:10PM

Bikers?

Right turn Clyde!

helimachoptor · 12-09-2012 11:10PM

Seen a guy txting while on a motorbike a while back, while cycling or driving and doing it is stupid doing it at 60kph on a bike with essentially leather protecting you is dumb.

In saying that I'd love a Harley

Turpentine · 12-09-2012 11:11PM

General General wrote: »

It's those Charlie's Angles I don't like.

That's right, they're an obscure bunch alright. Very obtuse.

TeddyTedson · 12-09-2012 11:12PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

No issue with motorcyclists at all. Their cool, keep themselves to themselves.
It's those push-bike cyclists you have to look out for. Their sooo annoying!

I absolutely love blocking off their cycle lane when I get stuck in traffic and they have to actually obey traffic lights for a change.

Although I did feel sorry for one girl a few days ago who was looking to cross over from the lane veering left to the lane going straight on. Nobody would let her cross over the lane while she had her arm out and she ended up getting stuck and had to stop.

Mully_2011 · 12-09-2012 11:13PM

I like bikers

Its those damn kids out on there Pogo sticks that grind my gears

oppenheimer1 · 12-09-2012 11:15PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Motorcyclists in Ireland often get treated like absolute dirt by some vehicle drivers on Irish roads particularly taxis.

I've been witness motorcyclists suffering intimidation who were forced off the road by a maniac caged drivers.

Motorcyclists don't even have the privilege of any designated lane, even bus lanes which are often vacant, they are forced to filter through traffic with idiots opening doors and also having to avoid cyclists that refuse to use designated lanes.

A lot of cage drivers take absolutely no precautions towards bikers and fail to treat a fellow road user as they would someone driving a cage.

Anyway its high time Bikers were treated with a bit of respect and understanding in Ireland.

BTW Bikers have now to put up with all sorts of fascist EU regulations unlike cyclists.

You do know motor cyclists are not really meant to weave through traffic and they are never "forced" to. Its a risk taken when you're impatient.

Quorum · 12-09-2012 11:19PM

Bikers who take it easy, no problem. Bikers who speed and weave in and out of traffic while doing so can fúck right off. But you can say the same of careless drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.

Shryke · 12-09-2012 11:19PM

I would fancy a bike but I won't get one while living in Ireland. The roads I drive on are appalling. Silly bends, narrow roads, bad/dangerous motorists, wet weather, terrible surfaces, pot holes everywhere. Every time I get behind the wheel of my car I feel pain for my tyres. Paying road tax disgusts me.

Motorist · 12-09-2012 11:23PM

Quorum wrote: »

Bikers who take it easy, no problem. Bikers who speed and weave in and out of traffic while doing so can fúck right off. But you can say the same of careless drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.

Admit it, you're just pi$$ed you have to sit in rotten traffic while bikers get to the top of queue every time.

mikemac1 · 12-09-2012 11:23PM

Remember a time when bikers held you up in city centre traffic?
Nope, you can't remember a time as it never happened

If every biker in Ireland decided to take the cage to work tomorrow the traffic would crawl, they are doing you a favor!

Get out your cage, get a bike

Doesn't have to be a big bike, starting off on a 50cc scooter is a good way to start :cool:

Run_to_da_hills · 12-09-2012 11:23PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You do know motor cyclists are not really meant to weave through traffic and they are never "forced" to. Its a risk taken when you're impatient.

Filtering is not weaving and its actually a part of the Garda safe pass course.

rab!dmonkey · 12-09-2012 11:23PM

Shryke wrote: »

I would fancy a bike but I won't get one while living in Ireland. The roads I drive on are appalling. Silly bends, narrow roads, bad/dangerous motorists, wet weather, terrible surfaces, pot holes everywhere. Every time I get behind the wheel of my car I feel pain for my tyres. Paying road tax disgusts me.

Sounds like you've been had. There's no such thing as road tax in this country.

AlekSmart · 12-09-2012 11:24PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Motorcyclists don't even have the privilege of any designated lane, even bus lanes which are often vacant, they are forced to filter through traffic with idiots opening doors and also having to avoid cyclists that refuse to use designated lanes.

A lot of cage drivers take absolutely no precautions towards bikers and fail to treat a fellow road user as they would someone driving a cage.

BTW Bikers have now to put up with all sorts of fascist EU regulations unlike cyclists.

Hear Hear that Man !!!

Some really interesting stuff on this Irish Solicitors website....

http://www.motorbikelaw.ie/how-to-stay-safe/who-is-at-fault/

This caught my eye...

Interestingly, drivers of other vehicles who are also licensed to ride a motorbike are less likely to overlook a motorbike indicating that it is indeed a problem of awareness of motorbikes on the road.

Syllabus · 12-09-2012 11:26PM

phasers wrote: »

...they're called cars.

It's like you want motorists to hate you.

he can call them whatever he wants:rolleyes:

the fact that car drivers tend to view themselves as immortal when driving particularly towards bikers shows they dont care if the bikers hate them.

only this morning i had some clown think twice about pulling out in front of me only to just bleedin to it!! i had to jam on. had i been in car he would not have pulled out

mikemac1 · 12-09-2012 11:30PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I've been witness motorcyclists suffering intimidation who were forced off the road by a maniac caged drivers.

When I started on a bike I lacked confidence

And every day I see scooter riders in the cycle lane, in the gutter!

If you do that on a narrow road you are daring cage drivers to squeeze past you, almost brush your sleeze.

Have some confidence, get out of the gutter, defensive riding and take the lane.

If you are in the lane you own it, don't let anyone squeeze past you

Lack of confidence = no respect

And take some professional lessons, I recommend Dave Lyons in Wicklow and Dublin
I won't link as that would seem as schilling but have a browse of motorcycle forum and he is highly recommended.
Gets my vote too

Quorum · 12-09-2012 11:33PM

Motorist wrote: »

Admit it, you're just pi$$ed you have to sit in rotten traffic while bikers get to the top of queue every time.

I don't drive, I cycle. :cool: See you at the top of the queue!

Shryke · 12-09-2012 11:40PM

rab!dmonkey wrote: »

Shryke wrote: »

I would fancy a bike but I won't get one while living in Ireland. The roads I drive on are appalling. Silly bends, narrow roads, bad/dangerous motorists, wet weather, terrible surfaces, pot holes everywhere. Every time I get behind the wheel of my car I feel pain for my tyres. Paying road tax disgusts me.

Sounds like you've been had. There's no such thing as road tax in this country.

You know motor tax? That's road tax, same thing. And you know what I meant.

Gbear · 12-09-2012 11:41PM

That motorbikes are allowed on roads is utterly and totally farcical.
We have safety standards for cars. I wonder what NCAP rating a motorbike has?

To be entirely fair it's mostly the motorcyclists themselves who are in danger but having such an inherently unsafe device allowed on the roads is insane.

I wouldn't be surprised if in my lifetime humans are banned from driving altogether in favour of automated transportation. Motorbikes will probably be scrapped long before that.

Gran Hermano · 12-09-2012 11:44PM

Use of the term 'cage drivers' makes it hard to feel any empathy towards you OP or to kidney donors in general.

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