9 11 and all that

Run_to_da_hills · 11-09-2012 11:44AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I was wondering when you'd arrive.... :pac:

Not the first time on this thread, I thought i'd give some more input since it's the 11th anniversary.

Not sure if this has been posted.

President of Italy’s Supreme Court to Refer 9/11 Crimes To International Criminal Court.

He says that 9/11 was “False Flag” Terror, Just Like the Strategy of Tension in Italy

Ferdinando Imposimato is the honorary President of the Supreme Court of Italy, and former Senior Investigative Judge, Italy.

Imposimato presided over several terrorism-related cases, including the kidnapping and ultimate assassination of President Aldo Moro, the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II, other political assassinations and kidnapping cases and several cases against the Mafia. He is a former Senator who served on the Anti-Mafia Commission in three administrations.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/11/president-of-italys-supreme-court-to-refer-911-crimes-to-international-criminal-court/

ButtersSuki · 11-09-2012 01:26PM

Scráib wrote: »

If you want to read genuine discussion about the disparity between American/Western/Infidel/etc etc etc. outrage at 2000 of their civilians being killed versus 200,000 of someone elses then look for Noam Chompsky's work. We studied the guy in college, interesting stuff.

That said, when one country owns or drives most of the mainstream media that we see then obviously any coverage of something like 9/11 will be skewed towards them if for no reason than it's easier for Sky to put a camera in downtown New York instead of the Sudan.

I did post this on page 2:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Terror...7353914&sr=8-1

A fascinating read.

Overheal · 11-09-2012 02:28PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

which is why they are vilified. americans carpet bombed apparently to liberate.

They were vilified for the holocaust...

Border-Rat · 11-09-2012 02:36PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

today the world remembers the victims but continues to ignore innocent civilians murdered by America. you reap what you sow and the terror America so willingly spread throughout the world came home to visit them. that was an unprecedented shock.immediately after it the Americans bombed Afghanistan and killed thousands of innocents but they must have been inferior beings cos nobody cares.

The average American didn't ask for 9/11. 1/3 of the victims were Irish Diaspora. I demand an investigation into 9/11.

Andy!! · 11-09-2012 02:38PM

Overheal wrote: »

They were vilified for the holocaust...

No, they are vilified because the people who are actually responsible for 9/11 try very hard to vilify them and make sure they are still demonized to this day...

brianbaru · 11-09-2012 02:42PM

What happened was awful but at the end of the day, the US has been bombing the hell out of countries all over the world for the last 70 years and killing millions. I think there will be less of an appetite for war now they understand what it's like to live in terror.

AnonoBoy · 11-09-2012 02:56PM

brianbaru wrote: »

I think there will be less of an appetite for war now they understand what it's like to live in terror.

Eh..... Where have you been hiding the past 11 years?

brianbaru · 11-09-2012 03:04PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Eh..... Where have you been hiding the past 11 years?

What countries have the US invaded since 9/11? NONE. As part of a legallly recognised coalition, yes but not as a nation.

AnonoBoy · 11-09-2012 03:06PM

brianbaru wrote: »

What countries have the US invaded since 9/11? NONE. As part of a legallly recognised coalition, yes but not as a nation.

Okay then......

What countries did they invade in the years running up to 9/11?

OldNotWIse · 11-09-2012 03:08PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

today the world remembers the victims but continues to ignore innocent civilians murdered by America. you reap what you sow and the terror America so willingly spread throughout the world came home to visit them. that was an unprecedented shock.immediately after it the Americans bombed Afghanistan and killed thousands of innocents but they must have been inferior beings cos nobody cares.

you're right...all those innocent people had a hand in the killing of innocent civilians in Afghanistan :rolleyes:

Andrewf20 · 11-09-2012 03:14PM

wonderfullife · 11-09-2012 03:19PM

Don't shoot just thinking out loud on this but.......

Would the World Trade Center be considered a legitimate military target in a traditional war? I.e. would a place of trade in a country historically be a legitimate military target? In wars you get all sorts of targets, bridges, planes, airfields, communication towers etc would a huge trade hub be a target?

Fromthetrees · 11-09-2012 03:20PM

September 11th was a very sad day.

Siege of Malta (1565)

OurLadyofKnock · 11-09-2012 03:21PM

This is a bit creepy mind.

http://homeandgarden.craftgossip.com/911-crafts/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+craftgossip%2FxQGh+%28Craft+Gossip%29

Musiconomist · 11-09-2012 03:43PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Don't shoot just thinking out loud on this but.......

Would the World Trade Center be considered a legitimate military target in a traditional war? I.e. would a place of trade in a country historically be a legitimate military target? In wars you get all sorts of targets, bridges, planes, airfields, communication towers etc would a huge trade hub be a target?

In fairness, even disregarding the casualties, it was an ingenius choice for an attack. The fact that it disrupted trading in America was probably the primary reason for choosing it. Beyond that, it impacted the flight industry in America, probably forever.

marcsignal · 11-09-2012 03:50PM

wes wrote: »

War was brought to plenty of peoples "front doors" in the last 60-70 years. Maybe not people in the West, but plenty of people in the rest of the world had war brought to their "front door".

+1

Like on September 11th 1973

...that was a Tuesday as well.

wes · 11-09-2012 03:50PM

Andrewf20 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cik8KYlzKmw

Kind of hard to take such criticism seriously from an Iraq war cheerleader. The Neocon aren't exactly any better than the other guy imho, considering there own insane war mongers, and all the blood on there hands.

Nodin · 11-09-2012 03:54PM

brianbaru wrote: »

What countries have the US invaded since 9/11? NONE. As part of a legallly recognised coalition, yes but not as a nation.

Iraq was carried out without UN sanction.

the_syco · 11-09-2012 03:59PM

leonidas83 wrote: »

their continuing support of Isreal no matter what they seem to do have turned an entire region of the world against them

They need an airfield, and Israel provided one. The airfield in Turkey cannot always be used.

Fuinseog wrote: »

which is why they are vilified. americans carpet bombed apparently to liberate.

Dresden was an important military route, had 110 factories making aircraft components. poison gas, gun, optical goods and electrical and X-ray apparatus as well as barracks and a munitions storage depot being located there. 25,000 people died, and once the bombing was finished, "Dresden's industrial recovery from the bombings was rapid" (The Last Days of the Third Reich. London, Michael O' Mara Books: 106).

El Weirdo · 11-09-2012 04:10PM

the_syco wrote: »

(The Last Days of the Third Reich. London, Michael O' Mara Books: 106).

Sorry, but we only use the Harvard system of referencing in these here parts.

C-

bluecode · 11-09-2012 04:23PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

yawn yourself. nobody asked you to participate.

You posted, that's an invitation to take part. Why don't you get a moderator to get me banned?

rgmmg · 11-09-2012 04:25PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I had gone to a girls that afternoon with the intention of getting the shift. why oh why did we flick on the fúcking TV... :mad::(

You should have flicked the other box to 'on' instead :pac:

Martonio · 11-09-2012 04:28PM

FatherLen wrote: »

this attack was led by george bush who should be tried for war crimes.

George Bush and Tony Blair have been tried for war crimes and were found guilty in Malaysian Courts, yet the world is not aware of this nor will Bush and Blair ever be brought to the Hague as in the eyes of the elite, they did as they were told to do.

El Weirdo · 11-09-2012 04:29PM

bluecode wrote: »

You posted, that's an invitation to take part. Why don't you get a moderator to get me banned?

I'll do it of my own volition, thank you very much.

Banned.

Fuinseog · 11-09-2012 05:32PM

Musiconomist wrote: »

In fairness, even disregarding the casualties, it was an ingenius choice for an attack. The fact that it disrupted trading in America was probably the primary reason for choosing it. Beyond that, it impacted the flight industry in America, probably forever.

and introduced silly rules like not being allowed to bring your own liquids on board a plane

Fuinseog · 11-09-2012 05:35PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Sorry, but we only use the Harvard system of referencing in these here parts.

C-

???

Piste · 11-09-2012 05:36PM

The Harvard system is a style of referencing used in the humanities for citing sources in papers or essays.

SamHarris · 11-09-2012 05:42PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

there seems to be a differentiation between flying a plane full of innocents into a building and dropping bombs from ahigh on civilian targets.

Intent is a massive part of war. If it came to light that the US lined up 3000 civilians and killed them, you can guarantee there would be a different attitude.

Also stop trying to pretend youcare more about others being killed than Americans on account of morality. Its politics, plain and simple. Your view is no different than right wing nutbags who would love to see a full on massacre of Muslims in retaliation.

SamHarris · 11-09-2012 05:49PM

Border-Rat wrote: »

The average American didn't ask for 9/11. 1/3 of the victims were Irish Diaspora. I demand an investigation into 9/11.

There was an investigation, the biggest criminal investigation of all time in fact.

You just want an investigation that reaches the conclusions you want it to, very different thing.

SamHarris · 11-09-2012 05:50PM

wes wrote: »

This is not to say that 9/11 wasn't awful, but large number of civilians being killed is hardly unique to 9/11, and certainly wasn't something unique in other parts of the world. The unique thing was that it was the US who was attacked, in a spectacular fashion.

The other unique thing was the amount killed in a single incident in a single day.

9 11 and all that

Comments