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Man beats woman. In shock.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 385 ✭✭pontia


    theres nothing to say the woman wouldent turn on you and side with guy who was beating her,wouldent be the first time i heard of it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Madam_X wrote: »
    It's very simple really: they still love them and cling to the hope that they'll go back to being as lovely as when they first met them. Plus, they are so worn down and lacking in confidence that they don't reckon they deserve any better, so they become dependent on their abuser. Also there can be those cases of blackmail for leaving. "I'll kill you/myself if you leave me" etc.
    On the outside looking in, it looks ridiculous, but if you're in the situation, it makes sense. Leaving an abusive relationship requires a huge amount of courage. It most certainly is not the abused party's fault.

    Well said. :)

    See the last line of my sig' for how some mental thinking sometimes never changes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    So you sat there watchin some bloke hit a woman a couple of times and then gave out bout 5 lads that walked past?
    Seriously mate order a set of balls and don't come on this with **** like that
    You deserve a smack for watchin that like a coward
    Wonder if it was a child would you have done something?! Prob not

    You make my blood boil fcukin fairy

    I assumed the poster was female... either way no need to call him a "fairy". Plenty of gay lads can stand up for themselves.
    Wtf does callin someone a fairy have to do with someone being gay
    Where did I say anything bout being gay
    And who's the fairy that reported me for being uncivil?
    This is after hours for Christ sake!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    So you sat there watchin some bloke hit a woman a couple of times and then gave out bout 5 lads that walked past?
    Seriously mate order a set of balls and don't come on this with **** like that
    You deserve a smack for watchin that like a coward
    Wonder if it was a child would you have done something?! Prob not

    You make my blood boil fcukin fairy

    I assumed the poster was female... either way no need to call him a "fairy". Plenty of gay lads can stand up for themselves.
    Wtf does callin someone a fairy have to do with someone being gay
    Where did I say anything bout being gay
    And who's the fairy that reported me for being uncivil?
    This is after hours for Christ sake!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭pathtohome


    Why is assault on a female seen as an unprecedentedly more serious crime than assault on a male?
    Ireland is a sexist country


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Wtf does callin someone a fairy have to do with someone being gay
    Where did I say anything bout being gay
    And who's the fairy that reported me for being uncivil?
    This is after hours for Christ sake!!

    Wasn't me that reported you. I assumed you were calling him gay for not having the balls to do something about it. If you meant fairy in a non-homophobic way then fair enough, I'll take your word for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Not as sexist as Pakistan in fairness. Where is it said a woman beating a man isn't as bad as the reverse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Biggins wrote: »
    Well said. :)

    See the last line of my sig' for how some mental thinking sometimes never changes!

    Jesus Christ, that's shocking. I mean, it's seriously backward. I want to put him in a boxing ring with Katie Taylor for 5 minutes. Yeah, I know that violence solves nothing but it can sometimes give a nice, warm tingly feeling inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Wtf does callin someone a fairy have to do with someone being gay
    Where did I say anything bout being gay
    And who's the fairy that reported me for being uncivil?
    This is after hours for Christ sake!!

    Wasn't me that reported you. I assumed you were calling him gay for not having the balls to do something about it. If you meant fairy in a non-homophobic way then fair enough, I'll take your word for it.
    Nope fairy as in just being a little fairy nothing to do with gays
    Called him A fairy for not having the balls to do Something bout it and should be ashamed of himself over it
    I wouldn't be able to stand there and watch a bloke hit a woman whether he's a stranger to her or boyfriend/husband if step in dispute the result of what happens to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    pathtohome wrote: »
    Why is assault on a female seen as an unprecedentedly more serious crime than assault on a male?
    Ireland is a sexist country

    That's not how you use the word "unprecedentedly". And the reason that we're less keen on woman-beating than yourself is that it's pretty cowardly. Women are typically smaller than men. People who beat up people smaller than them are seen as cowardly scum. There's no sexism there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Yeh I wasn't aware it was a boys v girls competition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Yeh I wasn't aware it was a boys v girls competition.

    Fair point. There was no need for the whataboutery earlier (I don't mean you, btw).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Fair point. There was no need for the whataboutery earlier (I don't mean you, btw).
    Oh hell no I wasn't aiming that at you! A few such "what about the reverse?" comments have popped up in this and the rape thread. It's just tiresome that some people feel the need to resort to such agenda-pushing when it's not relevant. If they want to discuss reverse scenarios I just wonder why they dont therefore start such threads - I'm sure they would make for very interesting and insightful discussions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 blueyes12


    Oh my god! That's truly awful, how could anyone stand by and watch that happen?

    Yes it's true that some victims of domestic violence, be it male or female, do not follow through with pressing charges or else they drop them for various reasons! Regardless of this I can't believe men and women walked by while this was happening, shocking.

    As for the guards making a joke of this violent attack. Thats just awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    I'd call the guards, no way would I intervene. Would all here who complain about those who didn't intervene do so themselves?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭LincolnsBeard


    suplad wrote: »
    As I walked towards him to intervene, a garda van pulled up and arrested a man for something else which I do not know.

    How convenient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 blueyes12


    Madam_X wrote: »
    I'd call the guards, no way would I intervene. Would all here who complain about those who didn't intervene do so themselves?

    Yes I most certainly would intervene as I was a victim of domestic violence for a number of years!

    The person that intervend for me, when I was getting strangled by the throat by my ex, I am eternally gratefull as I went straight to guards, pressed chargers, which followed a barring ordering removing him from the home. That was 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

    Ive since trained in working with victims of domestic violence. Both male and female.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    suplad wrote: »
    The title is supposed to attract attention.

    I was waiting for a taxi after a night out, I did notice a very agitated man standing near me. All of a sudden I see him leap towards a women walking past him. He punched her knocking her to the ground, he pulled her to her feet by her head and continued to punch her in the face about 5 times knocking her onto a wall. He continued to punch her using both hands about 10 times. The noise actually echoed through a nearby car park.

    5 men walked past and did not try to stop the attack. I called the gards strait away. As I walked towards him to intervene, a garda van pulled up and arrested a man for something else which I do not know. I thought the van came to arrest the woman beater. I told the gards in the van of what just happened. They had no interest at all and told me to call the station and they will send out someone is 5-10 minutes. When the garda car arrived about 10 minutes later (after about 2 minutes of circulating the scene) they said there is nothing they can do unless the victim talks to them and wants to press charges. They made no effort to search for the suspect even thought 3 people gave detailed descriptions. The two gards in the car had a great laugh ripping the piss out of the whole situation and saying that they get 10 phone calls a night about situations like this, and that they have bigger problems to worry about.

    I met some other witness' that told me it was better to stay out of it than get involved with something that was not their business

    It makes my blood boil. Does anybody else find this shocking?

    cool story bru


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    I'm seriously sick of the guards. I was assaulted and according to them 'I should have known better.' They refused to take a statement in the ten times I went into them.
    After I was assaulted again, I went into them and wouldn't leave till they took a statement. Now, a year later, they have 'lost' the statement. I think I will have to go over them to get justice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    blueyes12 wrote: »
    Yes I most certainly would intervene as I was a victim of domestic violence for a number of years!

    The person that intervend for me, when I was getting strangled by the throat by my ex, I am eternally gratefull as I went straight to guards, pressed chargers, which followed a barring ordering removing him from the home. That was 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

    Ive since trained in working with victims of domestic violence. Both male and female.
    Fair play to both you and that person who saved you - remarkably brave.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 blueyes12


    blueyes12 wrote: »
    Madam_X wrote: »
    I'd call the guards, no way would I intervene. Would all here who complain about those who didn't intervene do so themselves?

    Yes I most certainly would intervene as I was a victim of domestic violence for a number of years!

    The person that intervend for me, when I was getting strangled by the throat by my ex, I am eternally gratefull as I went straight to guards, pressed chargers, which followed a barring ordering removing him from the home. That was 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

    Ive since trained in working with victims of domestic violence. Both male and female.

    Excuse the typos above using my phone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 blueyes12


    Madam_X wrote: »
    blueyes12 wrote: »
    Yes I most certainly would intervene as I was a victim of domestic violence for a number of years!

    The person that intervend for me, when I was getting strangled by the throat by my ex, I am eternally gratefull as I went straight to guards, pressed chargers, which followed a barring ordering removing him from the home. That was 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

    Ive since trained in working with victims of domestic violence. Both male and female.
    Fair play to both you and that person who saved you - remarkably brave.

    Yes most definetly it was a brave thing to do or some may call it stupid, either or it was what I needed to follow through and get him charged.

    So the victim in the original post mentioned may have had similar experience or not, regardless 5 guys walked by, they could have easily outnumbered the abuser?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 argirl


    Jesus the garda are getting worse.
    Some guy threatened to brick my sisters house windows and she called the guards who came 4 hours later when the window was already broken and scumbag got away.

    I live in the U.A.E. and you can call the police even if someone insults you, and they will come within 5 mins. Wish Ireland had some of the same laws, strict as they are, they work and the petty crime rate is very low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    event wrote: »
    Take the garda's number and report to ombudsmen if they won't help?

    what would you have had the guards do?

    seriously is that a joke?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    argirl wrote: »
    Jesus the garda are getting worse.
    Some guy threatened to brick my sisters house windows and she called the guards who came 4 hours later when the window was already broken and scumbag got away.

    I live in the U.A.E. and you can call the police even if someone insults you, and they will come within 5 mins. Wish Ireland had some of the same laws, strict as they are, they work and the petty crime rate is very low.

    Is that you again Aganica?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,492 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    blueyes12 wrote: »
    Yes I most certainly would intervene as I was a victim of domestic violence for a number of years!

    The person that intervend for me, when I was getting strangled by the throat by my ex, I am eternally gratefull as I went straight to guards, pressed chargers, which followed a barring ordering removing him from the home. That was 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

    Ive since trained in working with victims of domestic violence. Both male and female.

    You and the person who saved you are very brave people. I wouldn't have dreamed of a situation like that happening on another person. I think you are a wonderful person for being open.

    I wish you both well in your future work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 argirl


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Is that you again Aganica?

    eh?? No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat



    You make my blood boil fcukin fairy


    closet much ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    An assault I witnessed in Cork 3 months ago.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056683817&pp=15&page=1

    The Guards do not care. They prefer to catch the little fish. The easy target like car tax or drunk and disorderly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    suplad wrote: »
    The title is supposed to attract attention.

    I was waiting for a taxi after a night out, I did notice a very agitated man standing near me. All of a sudden I see him leap towards a women walking past him. He punched her knocking her to the ground, he pulled her to her feet by her head and continued to punch her in the face about 5 times knocking her onto a wall. He continued to punch her using both hands about 10 times. The noise actually echoed through a nearby car park.

    5 men walked past and did not try to stop the attack. I called the gards strait away. As I walked towards him to intervene, a garda van pulled up and arrested a man for something else which I do not know. I thought the van came to arrest the woman beater. I told the gards in the van of what just happened. They had no interest at all and told me to call the station and they will send out someone is 5-10 minutes. When the garda car arrived about 10 minutes later (after about 2 minutes of circulating the scene) they said there is nothing they can do unless the victim talks to them and wants to press charges. They made no effort to search for the suspect even thought 3 people gave detailed descriptions. The two gards in the car had a great laugh ripping the piss out of the whole situation and saying that they get 10 phone calls a night about situations like this, and that they have bigger problems to worry about.

    I met some other witness' that told me it was better to stay out of it than get involved with something that was not their business

    It makes my blood boil. Does anybody else find this shocking?


    i find it shocking that you were not in full sprint over to help her, and instead ran for the cops. FFS would you like if someone did that to a female of your family and some guy walks over to help, stops for the cops, then goes on AH to ask our opinion on the matter.


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