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RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

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  • #1022
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    davet82 wrote: »
    one of Alan Ryans victims - Michael Kelly
    Michael ‘Micka’ Kelly died in a hail of bullets in broad daylight as he was targeted by two ruthless brothers who control the Real IRA in Dublin.

    Kelly – who loved fast cars and women – had barely any major criminal convictions and never served any jail time


    so another innocent man was murdered for no reason? :rolleyes:

    the evidence is the same for mika kelly rings through for alan ryan, it was common knowledge he profited from drugs although not directly in the dealing

    can we just cut the bullshít
    " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc


  • #1023
    Kevvv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Kevvv


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    You are denying that he made a living from crime? This is hardly a random question.

    Are you a politician by any chance? Its really hard to put a straight question to you and get a straight answer from it.

    I'll answer your question as if I had put it to you,

    "You are denying that he made a living from a means other than crime?"


  • #1024
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc
    Why did he not sue? He would have made hundreds of thousands.
    Because it was true that he was criminal scum


  • #1025
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc

    the same thing goes for targeting 'drug dealers', most of these guys dont have any convictions to do with drugs but from " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc" as you put it, but it didnt stop alan ryan extorting money from them and murdering them!


  • #1026
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Kevvv wrote: »
    Are you a politician by any chance? Its really hard to put a straight question to you and get a straight answer from it.

    I'll answer your question as if I had put it to you,

    "You are denying that he made a living from a means other than crime?"
    Yes, I am denying that. Evidence: nobody has mentioned that he even had a job. Further evidence: history of arrests for crime.

    Now - your turn: evidence that he did have a job? (other than crime)


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  • #1027
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    davet82 wrote: »
    the same thing goes for targeting 'drug dealers', most of these guys dont have any convictions to do with drugs but from " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc" as you put it, but it didnt stop alan ryan extorting money from them and murdering them!
    Stop confusing these people with your fancy correct use of logic.


  • #1028
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    So if someone doesnt sue a paper when they make false accusations it means they are true?

    Heard it all now


  • #1029
    AEDIC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    Fair enough, you didn't call him a drug dealer but you did infer that I "rejoice in the life of and support a criminal." in a previous post. It seems my crime is that I pointed out that the turn out by the local community he lived in shows he was far from been the character portrayed by Dr Sir O'Reilly's toilet papers.


    I actually countered your claim that anyone having negative comments on the funeral for any reason was not a republican. You see how that works?


  • #1030
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    So if someone doesnt sue a paper when they make false accusations it means they are true?

    Heard it all now
    So you have no explanation for why he didn't collect a fortune from the rags that were 'libelling' him?

    Your version of events sounds - almost - unbelievable...

    But you still believe in your heart that this man was a noble Robin Hood figure, fighting injustice, making the country safe for children and small animals, fighting our evil oppressors, the British...what a f*cking hero!


  • #1031
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    davet82 wrote: »
    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc

    the same thing goes for targeting 'drug dealers', most of these guys dont have any convictions to do with drugs but from " it was common knowledge ", BS talk, pub talk, boards.ie talk, Dr Sir Tony O'Reilly's fairytale reporters etc" as you put it, but it didnt stop alan ryan extorting money from them and murdering them!

    Sure one of these big drug dealers told him he wasn't making money anymore because of the recession,seems it wasn't hard to find out the truth,when the drug dealers themselves were admitting it!!

    What a clever bunch ay.


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  • #1032
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    If this thread shows anything it is how brain dead his supporters are


  • #1033
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Boombastic wrote: »
    If this thread shows anything it is how brain dead his supporters are
    Morons, like death and taxes, will always be with us.


  • #1034
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    So you have no explanation for why he didn't collect a fortune from the rags that were 'libelling' him?

    Your version of events sounds - almost - unbelievable...

    But you still believe in your heart that this man was a noble Robin Hood figure, fighting injustice, making the country safe for children and small animals, fighting our evil oppressors, the British...what a f*cking hero!

    No I don't believe that. I said at the beginning that the person who killed him was probably as bad as he was.

    So because he didnt sue, it means its true?


  • #1035
    Bergkamp 10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Bergkamp 10


    The only morons here are those slandering a dead man. The same names as usual.

    It's funny it's so common knowledge of these supposed crimes AR committed. How come he was so loved by everyone who knew him , and how come most importantly, there is NO evidence he committed these crimes?

    If it is common knowledge then the Gardai would know everything about it. Yet he was never charged? The gardai would have loved nothing better than to remove AR from the streets, yet none of these alleged crimes could ever be proven? And make no mistake when the Gardai want to put someone behind bars they will find the truth out. Obviously the truth was nowhere near as bad as some wannabe Paul Williams' here truely think.

    RIP


  • #1036
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Why did he not sue? He would have made hundreds of thousands.
    Because it was true that he was criminal scum
    The dead cannot sue.


  • #1037
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Bergkamp 10 wrote: »
    If it is common knowledge then the Gardai would know everything about it. Yet he was never charged?
    He was due to appear in court on charges of extortion when he was killed.
    The gardai would have loved nothing better than to remove AR from the streets, yet none of these alleged crimes could ever be proven?
    Gotta love the mental gymnastics here.

    If the Gardai would have loved nothing more than to remove him, then clearly he's involved in something? Otherwise the Gardai wouldn't give a crap?

    If he was an innocent man causing no trouble, then surely the Gardai would have left him alone?


  • #1038
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    seamus wrote: »
    Bergkamp 10 wrote: »
    If it is common knowledge then the Gardai would know everything about it. Yet he was never charged?
    He was due to appear in court on charges of extortion when he was killed.
    The gardai would have loved nothing better than to remove AR from the streets, yet none of these alleged crimes could ever be proven?
    Gotta love the mental gymnastics here.

    If the Gardai would have loved nothing more than to remove him, then clearly he's involved in something? Otherwise the Gardai wouldn't give a crap?

    If he was an innocent man causing no trouble, then surely the Gardai would have left him alone?

    If you read up on that case,the judge told the gard investigating,that if she didn't come up with any evidence he would throw the case out,this was after numerous court appearances where there was no evidence produced.


  • #1039
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    Bergkamp 10 wrote: »
    The only morons here are those slandering a dead man. The same names as usual.

    It's funny it's so common knowledge of these supposed crimes AR committed. How come he was so loved by everyone who knew him , and how come most importantly, there is NO evidence he committed these crimes?

    If it is common knowledge then the Gardai would know everything about it. Yet he was never charged? The gardai would have loved nothing better than to remove AR from the streets, yet none of these alleged crimes could ever be proven? And make no mistake when the Gardai want to put someone behind bars they will find the truth out. Obviously the truth was nowhere near as bad as some wannabe Paul Williams' here truely think.

    RIP
    Well I don't think he was liked universally, but clearly by the turnout of ordinary people in his neighbourhood he was well respected and as I stated I'm not a supporter of the RIRA. As for the "the same names as usual " yeah, wonder where what unionist scumhole are they really from ? Portadown, Larne etc I suppose :rolleyes:


  • #1040
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    So because he didnt sue, it means its true?
    It is very strong evidence that it is true - unless you can explain why he turned up his nose at hundreds of thousands of euro?


  • #1041
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    seamus wrote: »
    He was due to appear in court on charges of extortion when he was killed.
    Gotta love the mental gymnastics here.

    If the Gardai would have loved nothing more than to remove him, then clearly he's involved in something? Otherwise the Gardai wouldn't give a crap?

    If he was an innocent man causing no trouble, then surely the Gardai would have left him alone?
    He was a republican aligned with the 32CSM, the garda are out to get like that, just the way it is. (even "casual" members, ie those who turn up every now and again to commemorations and do nothing else can still expect harassment from the garda)

    Sure you still get Sinn Fein members getting harassed by the garda.


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  • #1042
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    Well I don't think he was liked universally, but clearly by the turnout of ordinary people in his neighbourhood he was well respected and as I stated I'm not a supporter of the RIRA. As for the "the same names as usual " yeah, wonder where what unionist scumhole are they really from ? Portadown, Larne etc I suppose :rolleyes:
    Parity of esteem? Well played.


  • #1043
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    seamus wrote: »
    He was due to appear in court on charges of extortion when he was killed.
    Gotta love the mental gymnastics here.

    If the Gardai would have loved nothing more than to remove him, then clearly he's involved in something? Otherwise the Gardai wouldn't give a crap?

    If he was an innocent man causing no trouble, then surely the Gardai would have left him alone?
    The Gardai tried to frame up the McBrearty's and many others down the years - so don't give us that one. Just because coppers suspects or harrasses someone it doesn't mean anything, it's a pity they weren't as keen on investigating the banksters and the rest of them now isn't it :mad:


  • #1044
    Bergkamp 10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Bergkamp 10


    seamus wrote: »
    He was due to appear in court on charges of extortion when he was killed.
    Gotta love the mental gymnastics here.

    If the Gardai would have loved nothing more than to remove him, then clearly he's involved in something? Otherwise the Gardai wouldn't give a crap?

    If he was an innocent man causing no trouble, then surely the Gardai would have left him alone?

    No what I'm saying is, obviously he was a member of the 32csm and obviously the RIRA, and that is reason enough for Special Branch to be watching him 24/7 which they were (although conveniently not on the day of his death).

    But these pathetic rumours of his involvement in drugs and murders, claims nobody can prove. If he was he would be long in prison for it.

    I like to stick to the facts you see, unlike the Herald brigade on here. AR was in prison for Ira offences 13 years ago. He was due in court for extortion, but he was innocent until proven guilty like all accused.

    In fact if he was innocent of the extortion I wouldn't be surprised at all, considering he was innocent of other alleged crimes.

    I have to laugh at all the wannabe detective Columbos on here, you didnt know the man last week but now you know everything.

    Stick to the facts at hand, you wont go too far wrong.


  • #1045
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Parity of esteem? Well played.
    Couldn't care less about them, try wearing a GAA or ROI shirt around some unionist scumhole like Ballymena or Colreaine and then you'll see what unionist parity of esteem is.


  • #1046
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    The dead cannot sue.
    He wasn't always dead though, as I understand it.


  • #1047
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Bergkamp 10 wrote: »
    But these pathetic rumours of his involvement in drugs and murders, claims nobody can prove. If he was he would be long in prison for it.
    Like Micka Kelly was? :rolleyes: Like the Monk? Like the General?


  • #1048
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    He wasn't always dead though, as I understand it.
    Most of the allegations about been a drug dealer etc have come out since his murder as far as I can see.


  • #1049
    Bergkamp 10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Bergkamp 10


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Like Micka Kelly was? :rolleyes: Like the Monk? Like the General?

    Prove it. Throwing your toys out of the pram when your questioned on your lies I see.


  • #1050
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    He was a republican aligned with the 32CSM, the garda are out to get like that, just the way it is. (even "casual" members, ie those who turn up every now and again to commemorations and do nothing else can still expect harassment from the garda)

    Sure you still get Sinn Fein members getting harassed by the garda.
    Let me get this straight, Alan Ryan never did anything illegal, the gardai just harassed him because he's a republican? :D


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  • #1051
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    ...wonder where what unionist scumhole are they really from ? Portadown, Larne etc I suppose :rolleyes:
    Less of this crap, please.

    /mod


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