Wallace is keeping his €41k payment.. for research !

bbam · 11-09-2012 08:21AM #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/mick-wallace-leaders-allowance-dail-591354-Sep2012/

The feckin cheek of this fella... Whet the hell would this guy spend this on..

“The money is not for my personal use but will be used mostly for research into different issues that concern the people of Ireland. If I don’t claim it, when all the others do, I am at a disadvantage”

I'd say the folks that voted for him in Wexford are proud now...

squod · 11-09-2012 08:31AM

bbam wrote: »

Whet the hell would this guy spend this on..

His hair.

Anyone else seen what that lad drives? 41k is running costs for that yoke.

jaykay74 · 11-09-2012 08:34AM

I don't mind him taking it as he is entitled to it. If he could stop with the spoofing though it'd be nice. "Research" & the giving up half his Dail salary to pay back debts.... All that rubbish.

If he came out and said "I'm taking it because I'm entitled to it" I would have a bit more respect for the guy.

PogMoThoin · 11-09-2012 08:37AM

squod wrote: »

His hair.

Because he's worth it :pac:

Littlehorny · 11-09-2012 08:39AM

Typical response, didnt take him long to adopt the mentality of a TD, sure everybody else is claiming it and i want my piece of the pie.

conorhal · 11-09-2012 08:41AM

What's he researching? How many expensive dinners it will take in One Pico it will take to get into Claire Daily's panties?

Procrastastudy · 11-09-2012 08:43AM

Will be be able to afford a razor now?

panda100 · 11-09-2012 08:43AM

Td's expenses are out of control.I say they don't pay for anything out of their own salary.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 11-09-2012 08:44AM

jaykay74 wrote: »

If he came out and said "I'm taking it because I'm entitled to it" I would have a bit more respect for the guy.

Nothing that scruffy crook would make me have respect for him. I have utter contempt for him, he deserves nothing but the worst.

MagicMarker · 11-09-2012 08:44AM

jaykay74 wrote: »

I don't mind him taking it as he is entitled to it. If he could stop with the spoofing though it'd be nice. "Research" & the giving up half his Dail salary to pay back debts.... All that rubbish.

If he came out and said "I'm taking it because I'm entitled to it" I would have a bit more respect for the guy.

"Entitled" is probably not the word I'd use.

Biggins · 11-09-2012 08:46AM

conorhal wrote: »

What's he researching? How many expensive dinners it will take in One Pico it will take to get into Claire Daily's panties?

Research area: "How to help screw the system!"

Procrastastudy · 11-09-2012 08:46AM

panda100 wrote: »

Td's expenses are out of control.I say they don't pay for anything out of their own salary.

I would actually do this:

Pay then a decent salary and pension etc. Whole package worth about €100K then give them an expenses allowance. If they can't get the job done within the allowance then that would be a good reason not to vote fro them next time. All these payments etc when they leave or what not should be stopped. If you were in for 5 years you get 5 years worth of a pension thats it.

Gummy Panda · 11-09-2012 08:50AM

conorhal wrote: »

What's he researching? How many expensive dinners it will take in One Pico it will take to get into Claire Daily's panties?

Ewwww...

*shudders*

donalg1 · 11-09-2012 08:55AM

Procrastastudy wrote: »

I would actually do this:

Pay then a decent salary and pension etc. Whole package worth about €100K then give them an expenses allowance. If they can't get the job done within the allowance then that would be a good reason not to vote fro them next time. All these payments etc when they leave or what not should be stopped. If you were in for 5 years you get 5 years worth of a pension thats it.

If they have a package worh €100k they do not need an expenses allowance, if you ask me they should be paid about €40k a year and then have an expense account that is strictly monitored and audited regularly. These lads dont have any personal costs as everything they get is claimed on expenses so therefore do not need a huge salary. They get paid more than POTUS ffs.

CruelCoin · 11-09-2012 08:55AM

jaykay74 wrote: »

I don't mind him taking it as he is entitled to it. If he could stop with the spoofing though it'd be nice. "Research" & the giving up half his Dail salary to pay back debts.... All that rubbish.

If he came out and said "I'm taking it because I'm entitled to it" I would have a bit more respect for the guy.

Aye. Frank "brick to the head" honesty is badly needed here.

Littlehorny · 11-09-2012 08:56AM

panda100 wrote: »

Td's expenses are out of control.I say they don't pay for anything out of their own salary.

I would say they don't, remember one TD was named and shamed a few years ago because he claimed for a packet of mints, he said it was because he didnt want to meet people with smelly breath.

Procrastastudy · 11-09-2012 09:11AM

donalg1 wrote: »

If they have a package worh €100k they do not need an expenses allowance, if you ask me they should be paid about €40k a year and then have an expense account that is strictly monitored and audited regularly. These lads dont have any personal costs as everything they get is claimed on expenses so therefore do not need a huge salary. They get paid more than POTUS ffs.

40K puts them in assistant manager at Tesco bracket. I'm all for keeping them under control but the salary has to be realistic.

I'm not dising retail - worked in it myself for many years. I just don't see how a TD would be on the same salary.

dj jarvis · 11-09-2012 09:19AM

ok

so he was legally elected to the dail, and due what pay and perks that come with being a independent TD - people , if you have a problem with that, then petition your elected member to change it , until then, HE IS DOING NOTHING WRONG ( legally )

as for his tax dealings - is it not correct that revenue and the director of corporate enforcement has said he has no case to answer ? that no legal action is due ?

so to sum up , he is entitled to it, and he has no legal action pending with revenue?
in the eyes of the law he is doing NOTHING wrong?

i suggest if the windbags pontificating on this thread have a issue with this, they should get onto the relevant people and petition to have the law changed
** none have YET - this apply s to the hordes of outraged, but ever so lazy b2st2ds to come **
you get what you vote for - and wexford got him

now if you ask is he morally entitled - he is in his bollix , the man is morally bankrupt - but that is not a crime

so - instead of blowing hot air in this thread - find the number of your local TD's office and complain to him/her , or higher up , knock yourself out
but if your not willing - then shut the f"ck up - he is legally entitled to it

bbam · 11-09-2012 09:26AM

Get the fukc down of your high horse there mate.

This guy got elected based on his campaign fore new politics, Change the system, get the ordinary man in control.
Since getting into office he had done nothing but bring his position and indeed the whole notion of honest politics into disrepute. He lay down with dogs and now has the fleas of corrupt office. People are damn right to come on and express their disgust at his behaviour. Remember, this is After Hours not the Politics forum.

dj jarvis wrote: »

ok

so he was legally elected to the dail, and due what pay and perks that come with being a independent TD - people , if you have a problem with that, then petition your elected member to change it , until then, HE IS DOING NOTHING WRONG ( legally )

as for his tax dealings - is it not correct that revenue and the director of corporate enforcement has said he has no case to answer ? that no legal action is due ?

so to sum up , he is entitled to it, and he has no legal action pending with revenue?
in the eyes of the law he is doing NOTHING wrong?

i suggest if the windbags pontificating on this thread have a issue with this, they should get onto the relevant people and petition to have the law changed

you get what you vote for - and wexford got him

now if you ask is he morally entitled - he is in his bollix , the man is morally bankrupt - but that is not a crime

so - instead of blowing hot air in this thread - find the number of your local TD's office and complain to him/her , or higher up , knock yourself out
but if your not willing - then shut the f"ck up - he is legally entitled to it

Uriel. · 11-09-2012 09:27AM

donalg1 wrote: »

if you ask me they should be paid about €40k

To be honest, no I don't believe they should be paid that low of a salary. Most TDs have a thankless job 7 days a week.
Now, I do think you could potentially reduce their current salaries by a smaller amount and remove them from constituency work completely (leaving that to the locally elected politicians.

The whole political and representative system needs to be overhauled here imo

donalg1 wrote: »

They get paid more than POTUS ffs.

Really? Are you sure about that? :rolleyes:

holystungun9 · 11-09-2012 09:31AM

conorhal wrote: »

What's he researching? How many expensive dinners it will take in One Pico it will take to get into Claire Daily's panties?

Please say you are American or Canadian. I hope this word isn't making its way into our vocabulary.

mcko · 11-09-2012 09:36AM

One word really

SCUM

L.Jenkins · 11-09-2012 09:39AM

bbam wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/mick-wallace-leaders-allowance-dail-591354-Sep2012/

The feckin cheek of this fella... Whet the hell would this guy spend this on..

“The money is not for my personal use but will be used mostly for research into different issues that concern the people of Ireland. If I don’t claim it, when all the others do, I am at a disadvantage”

I'd say the folks that voted for him in Wexford are proud now...

I see he's stirring up a bit of controversy as of late, regarding attire in the Dail. So it wouldn't be anything new if his attitude is somewhat flippant.

squod wrote: »

His hair.

Anyone else seen what that lad drives? 41k is running costs for that yoke.

Give them all smart cars at the very most. If they want to lead, then they should set the example.

suicide_circus · 11-09-2012 09:52AM

Perhaps he is researching the merits of paying ones taxes?

He should concentrate on his Twisted Sister tribute band

http://s2.jrnl.ie/media/2012/06/673-Dail-activities-390x285.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/1/13/20110411150118!Dee_Snider_at_PMRC_Senate_Hearing_2.ogv/mid-Dee_Snider_at_PMRC_Senate_Hearing_2.ogv.jpg

donalg1 · 11-09-2012 10:00AM

Uriel. wrote: »

To be honest, no I don't believe they should be paid that low of a salary. Most TDs have a thankless job 7 days a week.
Now, I do think you could potentially reduce their current salaries by a smaller amount and remove them from constituency work completely (leaving that to the locally elected politicians.

The whole political and representative system needs to be overhauled here imo

Really? Are you sure about that? :rolleyes:

Nah not too sure about it, but they definitely earn a lot more than most of the leaders of european countries. Especially considering the 92k salary and then the 41k and then all the expenses. And I wouldnt say even one of them is worth anywhere near that.

Thats why I think with the expenses they claim a salary of €40k is more than enough for them.

Peanut2011 · 11-09-2012 10:06AM

Uriel. wrote: »

To be honest, no I don't believe they should be paid that low of a salary. Most TDs have a thankless job 7 days a week.

What happened with going in to politics for bettering your own country, not your own pocket?

These cronies are all there for personal gain and Mick just proved it. They get paid a salary + expenses and this €41k leaders allowance (no questions asked) is just yet another way of "rewarding themselves"!

If you have the passion for the job and want to make the difference than you should go forward not cos you want better pay packet!

I am sure none of us cared how much they were paying themselves when the money was floating around, that is partially why we are in the mess we are in. When the times are tough they should be the people we look up to and say look at the sacrifice they are making to make the Ireland a better place.

Instead every time we look up we see more and more ways they are milking us all!

So much for all of their promises! Also, it is interesting that the person who DEFRAUDED this country from millions is now one of the decision makers! Any other employer would have sacked the employee and have them in front of the court! But when it comes to the Dáil, all they can do is voice their concern!

La di da!!!

Jaysoose · 11-09-2012 10:07AM

So this known tax evader is claiming a 41k expense to perform some deluded vox-pop poll down the country.

He really is a damning example of what is wrong with this country and anybody that voted for this failure of a man should hang there heads in shame.

donalg1 · 11-09-2012 10:23AM

Jaysoose wrote: »

So this known tax evader is claiming a 41k expense to perform some deluded vox-pop poll down the country.

He really is a damning example of what is wrong with this country and anybody that voted for this failure of a man should hang there heads in shame.

Best thing is he was so quick to get on TV and in the Papers to let people know that he was giving half his salary back, yet at the same time he was claiming this which he forgot to mention.

Boombastic · 11-09-2012 10:46AM

How quick he forgets the values he stood for at election time. At least the others didn't pretend to be working for the good of the 'common people' and then turn around and kick them in the nuts

Jaysoose · 11-09-2012 10:55AM

Boombastic wrote: »

How quick he forgets the values he stood for at election time. At least the others didn't pretend to be working for the good of the 'common people' and then turn around and kick them in the nuts

What values?

He was standing for election based on his connection with the common people of wexford who viewed him fondly due to his past record. the dogs in the street could have seen he was out for himself and its very convenient it took him to lose his bollox before he felt this "calling" to politics.

So transparent its actually sickening that we have to look at his false mug on telly or in the papers.

Thanks wexford you really played a blinder electing this guy.

Uriel. · 11-09-2012 11:23AM

donalg1 wrote: »

Nah not too sure about it, but they definitely earn a lot more than most of the leaders of european countries. Especially considering the 92k salary and then the 41k and then all the expenses. And I wouldnt say even one of them is worth anywhere near that.

Thats why I think with the expenses they claim a salary of €40k is more than enough for them.

The 41k as I understand it, is only available to independents because they don't have the resources of a political party behind them.

You seemed very sure that they earn more than POTUS in your previous post. Are you also equally sure that they earn more than most leaders of European countries?

Wallace is keeping his €41k payment.. for research !

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