Tailgating and Road Rage

soundbyte · 09-09-2012 07:37PM

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

That's a childish attitude to have to be honest. I agree that the speed limit, is as it says, a limit and not a target. I am a cardiac first responder, if you don't know what that is, I am on call 10 hours a week and if someone has cardiac arrest or is choking, I will be paged and go to the scene and perform the Heinrich or do CPR until the paramedics arrive. If that was me behind your brother, then someone's life could be at risk. As I mentioned, I do agree that the speed limit is a limit and not a target. When I am driving, I will do the limit, and not 1KPH more, but I would feel very uncomfortable doing a lot less than the limit. Just think that the person behind you could really have somewhere important to be and by deliberately slowing down, your brother could be delaying someone and it could have drastic consequences.

Heinrich?

Neewbie_noob · 09-09-2012 07:39PM

Muir wrote: »

But you shouldn't be tailgating someone. You should be leaving adequate distance between you and the car in front. What use are you to the person you're responding to if you end up in an accident because you were driving up someones ass on the road? The point is tailgating is not safe.

But most people wouldn't tailgate if the person on front was driving at a reasonable speed. Driving abilities in Ireland are apparently one of the worst in the World. As I said, I never break the speed limit but I do drive up the the speed limit, road conditions permitting but I have often been on a perfectly straight stretch of road where the person on front was doing well below the speed limit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a dangerous driver or boy racer by any stretch of the imagination.

Neewbie_noob · 09-09-2012 07:41PM

soundbyte wrote: »

Heinrich?

Heimlich manoeuvre, auto correct, sorry.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 07:47PM

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

That's a childish attitude to have to be honest. I agree that the speed limit, is as it says, a limit and not a target. I am a cardiac first responder, if you don't know what that is, I am on call 10 hours a week and if someone has cardiac arrest or is choking, I will be paged and go to the scene and perform the Heinrich or do CPR until the paramedics arrive. If that was me behind your brother, then someone's life could be at risk. As I mentioned, I do agree that the speed limit is a limit and not a target. When I am driving, I will do the limit, and not 1KPH more, but I would feel very uncomfortable doing a lot less than the limit. Just think that the person behind you could really have somewhere important to be and by deliberately slowing down, your brother could be delaying someone and it could have drastic consequences.

Agree 100% I was being rushed to a hospital once and we had to overtake on a hard shoulder because someone was driving slow for a laugh.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 07:49PM

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

But most people wouldn't tailgate if the person on front was driving at a reasonable speed. Driving abilities in Ireland are apparently one of the worst in the World. As I said, I never break the speed limit but I do drive up the the speed limit, road conditions permitting but I have often been on a perfectly straight stretch of road where the person on front was doing well below the speed limit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a dangerous driver or boy racer by any stretch of the imagination.

I wouldn't say they're the worst, India, Russia, even New Zealand are worse on many points. New Zealand in particular when it comes to undertaking at motorways. Ireland is poor on seatbelts, phones and roundabouts as well as the slightly different issue as driving with no licence.

Muir · 09-09-2012 08:03PM

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

But most people wouldn't tailgate if the person on front was driving at a reasonable speed. Driving abilities in Ireland are apparently one of the worst in the World. As I said, I never break the speed limit but I do drive up the the speed limit, road conditions permitting but I have often been on a perfectly straight stretch of road where the person on front was doing well below the speed limit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a dangerous driver or boy racer by any stretch of the imagination.

People do tailgate even when the person in front is driving at a reasonable speed. I see it regularly. And furthermore that's not an excuse to drive dangerously. If the person in front drives too slow for your liking, stay back so you can see clearly & overtake when it's safe to do so. Tailgating someone wont get you anywhere any faster if they're driving slow, you're just more likely to cause an accident if the person in front needs to jam on the breaks.

TheChizler · 09-09-2012 08:10PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

someone was driving slow for a laugh.

do you seriously believe they were doing it for the laugh?

09-09-2012 08:20PM

Solutions!

The hard sell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0G66aOUzOc

or the soft option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAx7UO9Sajk

Lippy C · 09-09-2012 08:30PM

This morning I was forced to break as some asshole pulled out of a side road(no problem with that) but then proceeded to plod along at 50kph when the road is a 100kph.He pulled into garage further along I was going there too and I spoke to him older gentleman and said how I had to hit the brakes as he cruised along after coming onto main road.His reply was well I don't think that road should be 100kph so I won't drive above 50kph. Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 08:32PM

TheChizler wrote: »

do you seriously believe they were doing it for the laugh?

Yea. The driver tried to pass him once and the other driver floored it to stop him. Our driver put on the hazard lights and beeped the horn to let him no there was an emergency, he then slowed to 60 km/h on a 100 limit road. Thankfully the M50 was quite clear for the time of day and we made it to the hospital on time.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 08:36PM

Lippy C wrote: »

This morning I was forced to break as some asshole pulled out of a side road(no problem with that) but then proceeded to plod along at 50kph when the road is a 100kph.He pulled into garage further along I was going there too and I spoke to him older gentleman and said how I had to hit the brakes as he cruised along after coming onto main road.His reply was well I don't think that road should be 100kph so I won't drive above 50kph. Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should always drive according to the road and your ability. What he did was 100% right. Possibly there is the issue that he shouldn't be driving at all as his ability would suggest.

Lippy C · 09-09-2012 08:47PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

You should always drive according to the road and your ability. What he did was 100% right. Possibly there is the issue that he shouldn't be driving at all as his ability would suggest.

Yes I agree he possibly should not be on the roads same as my dad they are a liability ...he said he saw my car but pulled out anyway!!! What was he 100% right on sorry didn't get that??!!

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 08:52PM

Lippy C wrote: »

Yes I agree he possibly should not be on the roads same as my dad they are a liability ...he said he saw my car but pulled out anyway!!! What was he 100% right on sorry didn't get that??!!

He was right to drive at that speed rather than drive faster than his ability.

A Dub in Glasgo · 09-09-2012 08:55PM

He was 100% wrong and is a danger to others on the road

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 08:58PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

He was 100% wrong and is a danger to others on the road

SO he should have driven faster??
Surely the right way to resolve this is for him to hand in his licence?

Lippy C · 09-09-2012 09:02PM

Oh right ...well I disagree with you there he could have caused an accident just because he decided speed limit should be lower doesn't mean we are all mind readers..no other cars on road thank god as it was early when I left for work.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 09:28PM

Lippy C wrote: »

Oh right ...well I disagree with you there he could have caused an accident just because he decided speed limit should be lower doesn't mean we are all mind readers..no other cars on road thank god as it was early when I left for work.

I see where you are coming from. I drive at the limit on all motorways but will drive at half the limit on streets with houses where kids play, the same on some bad country roads. If the limit on motorways was changed to 170 km/h I would not drive at that speed because it is beyond my ability. If me driving at my highest safe speed was too low to be safe I would have to stop driving on motorways.

A Dub in Glasgo · 09-09-2012 09:48PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

SO he should have driven faster??
Surely the right way to resolve this is for him to hand in his licence?

Either way he was 100% wrong

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 09:52PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Either way he was 100% wrong

Wrong to drive so slowly or wrong to be on the road? I agree with the latter.

Fuinseog · 09-09-2012 09:56PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

I was in Dublin a couple of weeks ago for a family funeral. I drove from Glasgow via Larne. I was amazed at the amount of drivers who drive in the middle lane of the M50 even when the left hand lane is clear for miles. Then you get those who venture out to the right hand lane and drive +1kph to overtake.

if you are driving at 100km per hour on the 100km per hour M50 surely the lane is not that important.

although on the motorways driving at 120km I get out of the way for those who want to overtake me.

.jacksparrow. · 09-09-2012 09:59PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

I was in Dublin a couple of weeks ago for a family funeral. I drove from Glasgow via Larne. I was amazed at the amount of drivers who drive in the middle lane of the M50 even when the left hand lane is clear for miles. Then you get those who venture out to the right hand lane and drive +1kph to overtake.

if you are driving at 100km per hour on the 100km per hour M50 surely the lane is not that important.

although on the motorways driving at 120km I get out of the way for those who want to overtake me.

Of course its important,why don't people understand how to use motorways in this country?

rogieop · 09-09-2012 10:01PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

if you are driving at 100km per hour on the 100km per hour M50 surely the lane is not that important.

although on the motorways driving at 120km I get out of the way for those who want to overtake me.

you are an idiot.

Hand in your driving license. please.

you make commuting to work a nightmare for people.

You stay in the lane as far to the left as possible untill you need to overtake. once you have over taken you return to the lane closest to the left as possible.

As long as you watch yuor own speed you need not worry about others.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 10:04PM

rogieop wrote: »

you are an idiot.

Hand in your driving license. please.

you make commuting to work a nightmare for people.

You stay in the lane as far to the left as possible untill you need to overtake. once you have over taken you return to the lane closest to the left as possible.

As long as you watch yuor own speed you need not worry about others.

You're right about the 2nd part but no need to call him an idiot. Its his driving instructor's fault and the fault of the system in the republic.

jessiejam · 09-09-2012 10:07PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Wrong to drive so slowly or wrong to be on the road? I agree with the latter.

I think he was well out of order driving so slowly. He could have caused an accident or a pile up. FFS 100km per hour isn't that fast at all. If he can't drive at that speed sometimes, he shouldn't be on the road. Especially when there is an oncoming car. Complete disregard for other road users as far as im concerned.

Maybe there should be a compentency test after you reach a certain age. There are some people out there driving the last 60 years. Times have well changed since they did their test.

Saying that not all elderly drivers are rubbish at it. I find the majority to be very courteous, by pulling in when they can, to let you pass. But there are the odd few that are oblivious to other road users. Saying that I see an awful lot of women on the road driving cars that they can't drive properly practically sitting on the steering wheel their noses almost touching the windscreen. It takes all types really I suppose

Muir · 09-09-2012 10:09PM

jessiejam wrote: »

Saying that I see an awful lot of women on the road driving cars that they can't drive properly practically sitting on the steering wheel their noses almost touching the windscreen. It takes all types really I suppose

I'm short. I need to sit as far forward as my seat allows to reach the pedals properly. Why would that mean I can't drive properly?

jessiejam · 09-09-2012 10:15PM

Muir wrote: »

I'm short. I need to sit as far forward as my seat allows to reach the pedals properly. Why would that mean I can't drive properly?

Ya probably:p

In all seriousness though if you re-read my post you will see this-
Saying that I see an awful lot of women on the road driving cars that they can't drive properly practically sitting on the steering wheel their noses almost touching the windscreen. It takes all types really I suppose

If you can drive properly the nose touching off the windscreen doesn't matter!

dukedalton · 09-09-2012 10:16PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

He was right to drive at that speed rather than drive faster than his ability.

If he/she doesn't have the ability to drive to the speed limit then he/she should not be on the road. Simple as that.

I do a fair bit of mileage and the most infuriating thing is to see someone plodding along at half the limit in normal driving conditions. This to me is as dangerous as someone speeding, because it can get the person behind frustrated into attempting an overtaking maneuver they shouldn't carry out.

The speed limit is there for a reason. If you can't handle that, get off the road.

Hande hoche! · 09-09-2012 10:16PM

I have got to stop reading this thread the nights before my driving lessons.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 10:20PM

dukedalton wrote: »

If he/she doesn't have the ability to drive to the speed limit then he/she should not be on the road. Simple as that.

Agreed. And encouraging that person to drive faster is making the problem worse.

TheChizler · 09-09-2012 10:23PM

dukedalton wrote: »

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

He was right to drive at that speed rather than drive faster than his ability.

If he/she doesn't have the ability to drive to the speed limit then he/she should not be on the road. Simple as that.

I do a fair bit of mileage and the most infuriating thing is to see someone plodding along at half the limit in normal driving conditions. This to me is as dangerous as someone speeding, because it can get the person behind frustrated into attempting an overtaking maneuver they shouldn't carry out.

The speed limit is there for a reason. If you can't handle that, get off the road.

That's a bit of a general statement. Its widely agreed that many of the speed limits are excessive of what would be considered safe. And there are many reasons why you would have reason to drive considerably below the limit.

Tailgating and Road Rage

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