RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

wicklowwonder · 09-09-2012 10:30AM

Billy Mays wrote: »

seiphil wrote: »

At peak there was 2000 mourners there. Shops and businesses shut down in respect to the man and his family.

Funniest thing I've read on this thread

Closed down because every scumbag in the country was going to be within 300mts of their premises , also high chance of a riot or demonstration so shop fronts could be easily damaged.

cloptrop · 09-09-2012 10:39AM

Is it true that this fella taxed nearly every business in Coolock and alot of north dublin as well as drug dealers .
Is it true he didnt mind dealers once they were paying him tax .
Is it true dealers and business men in the donaghmede area are celebrating all weekend because hes dead.
Wont there be just somebody else getting primoted to his position now if the above is true.
I have absolutely no idea if this is just gossip or what . Does anyone know firsthand.

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 11:05AM

cloptrop wrote: »

Is it true that this fella taxed nearly every business in Coolock and alot of north dublin as well as drug dealers .
Is it true he didnt mind dealers once they were paying him tax .
Is it true dealers and business men in the donaghmede area are celebrating all weekend because hes dead.
Wont there be just somebody else getting primoted to his position now if the above is true.
I have absolutely no idea if this is just gossip or what . Does anyone know firsthand.

I know that his organisation killed a few big time dealers. They are believed to have hit the pockets of the smaller dealers. As to where that money went there are allegations that he pocketed the money.
Some are trying to say that Alan was just in it for the money and not to protect his community. I don't know if there's any truth to this.

Cienciano · 09-09-2012 11:45AM

wicklowwonder wrote: »

Closed down because every scumbag in the country was going to be within 300mts of their premises , also high chance of a riot or demonstration so shop fronts could be easily damaged.

Or if you dont shut down to show "respect" your shop will be broken into or burned down

Ash.J.Williams · 09-09-2012 11:47AM

Militant republicanism = severe mental illness and a fondness for costumes

Fuinseog · 09-09-2012 12:03PM

Confab wrote: »

A terrorist killed, you say? One down, many to go. And I don't care what political party/dogma/religion they represent, they have to go.

the guards wasted no time in hunting his killer. his killer did the community a service unless he was trying to replace him.

cloptrop · 09-09-2012 12:09PM

Is it true that even a fella doing car washeswas being taxed by him ?
These are the things Im hearing I dont know whether its true or just local gossip
or paper nonsense.
I really gave no thoughts to IRA fundraising before . A mate of mine bought a business in Drumcondra a few years back and was visited by a chap that wanted the same protection money he got off the last owner. No idea on the details . I put it down to the shop owner being a spoofer at the time.

Fuinseog · 09-09-2012 12:09PM

allthedoyles wrote: »

An active member is always given a Republican funeral

the war is over. The IRA has been stood down. anyone still advocating war should be interned. RSF and the 32 county sovernty movement should be outlawed.

.jacksparrow. · 09-09-2012 12:13PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

allthedoyles wrote: »

An active member is always given a Republican funeral

the war is over. The IRA has been stood down. anyone still advocating war should be interned. RSF and the 32 county sovernty movement should be outlawed.

Because the IRA was once not an outlaw?

fasttalkerchat · 09-09-2012 12:17PM

cloptrop wrote: »

Is it true that even a fella doing car washeswas being taxed by him ?
These are the things Im hearing I dont know whether its true or just local gossip
or paper nonsense.
I really gave no thoughts to IRA fundraising before . A mate of mine bought a business in Drumcondra a few years back and was visited by a chap that wanted the same protection money he got off the last owner. No idea on the details . I put it down to the shop owner being a spoofer at the time.

Any local hard man was up to this in Portadown at one stage. Often pubs in loyalist areas were paying money out to 3/4 different people, some of them not even connected to any group. On top of this you had managers of large chains saying they were approached for protection money and really they were pocketing it themselves.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 09-09-2012 02:29PM

Very interesting article about Ryan in the Daily Mail (yeah I know), this quote stood out to me:

All week his supporters have taken to the internet to slate the media for its coverage of Ryan's murder, blaming the newspapers for his brutal death – but Ryan was regularly talking to journalists before the shooting.

Link

Dyr · 09-09-2012 02:52PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Very interesting article about Ryan in the Daily Mail (yeah I know), this quote stood out to me:

Link

You realise that term "ryan's supporters" extends to anyone who "supported" ryan in anyway shape or form? Including people who had no association with him or had ever even met him?

Kinda funny how naive people are about these things

Ash.J.Williams · 09-09-2012 02:55PM

Bambi wrote: »

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Very interesting article about Ryan in the Daily Mail (yeah I know), this quote stood out to me:

Link

You realise that term "ryan's supporters" extends to anyone who "supported" ryan in anyway shape or form? Including people who had no association with him or had ever even met him?

Kinda funny how naive people are about these things

Obviously

Dyr · 09-09-2012 03:02PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Obviously

if its obvious then it shouldn't stand out to anyone even be quoteworthy, should it. Good chap

Defiler Of The Coffin · 09-09-2012 03:08PM

Bambi wrote: »

if its obvious then it shouldn't stand out to anyone even be quoteworthy, should it. Good chap

The quoteworthy part for me was the fact that Ryan was talking to journalists before his death, something I wasn't aware of and hadn't seen mentioned in this thread (if it was then I missed it). Some people are saying here that Ryan was misunderstood and hounded by the press but this article says otherwise

Lelantos · 09-09-2012 03:09PM

Bambi wrote: »

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Obviously

if its obvious then it shouldn't stand out to anyone even be quoteworthy, should it. Good chap

Well all his supporters here seem to blame a particular journo & they seem to have more knowledge than most of him. So chances are, it is quoteworthy good chap.

Ash.J.Williams · 09-09-2012 03:26PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Bambi wrote: »

if its obvious then it shouldn't stand out to anyone even be quoteworthy, should it. Good chap

The quoteworthy part for me was the fact that Ryan was talking to journalists before his death, something I wasn't aware of and hadn't seen mentioned in this thread (if it was then I missed it). Some people are saying here that Ryan was misunderstood and hounded by the press but this article says otherwise

That article gave decent insight into the man, deluded.

The Big Red Button · 09-09-2012 03:27PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Very interesting article about Ryan in the Daily Mail (yeah I know), this quote stood out to me:

Link

I read that article in full, and I'm actually disgusted ... and feel sorry for the "journalist" who wrote it. Some shameful crap in there.

Yeah, it's very brave to come out with all that crap from "private conversations" she had with the man, after he's died, giving her own uninformed opinions on the whole thing. :rolleyes: Full of conjecture and assumptions. She might think she's safer writing this article now that he's gone. Actually, in my opinion, it was a pretty stupid thing to do. Attention-seeking. And not worth the risk.

I have no sympathy for Alan Ryan or his mates, but that article was a very badly thought-out idea.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 09-09-2012 03:34PM

chatterpillar wrote: »

I read that article in full, and I'm actually disgusted ... and feel sorry for the "journalist" who wrote it. Some shameful crap in there.

Yeah, it's very brave to come out with all that crap from "private conversations" she had with the man, after he's died, giving her own uninformed opinions on the whole thing. :rolleyes: Full of conjecture and assumptions. She might think she's safer writing this article now that he's gone. Actually, in my opinion, it was a pretty stupid thing to do. Attention-seeking. And not worth the risk.

I have no sympathy for Alan Ryan or his mates, but that article was a very badly thought-out idea.

You can hardly call them 'private conversations', Ryan knew she was a journalist and sought her out. Didn't seem in any way 'shameful' to me but then I guess I didn't know the real Alan Ryan

Criminal · 09-09-2012 05:07PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

The quoteworthy part for me was the fact that Ryan was talking to journalists before his death, something I wasn't aware of and hadn't seen mentioned in this thread (if it was then I missed it). Some people are saying here that Ryan was misunderstood and hounded by the press but this article says otherwise

Yes paper the other day said he talk to them about stuff and a story on what he said will be out this week amalgamation of groups, threats to Criminal Action Force.

Quoted as spokesman, so this paper will not be the only one.

Criminal · 09-09-2012 05:09PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

You can hardly call them 'private conversations', Ryan knew she was a journalist and sought her out. Didn't seem in any way 'shameful' to me but then I guess I didn't know the real Alan Ryan

He was always talking to the papers.

Criminal · 09-09-2012 05:23PM

Apparently a spokesman for Alan Ryan's gang said they will get the ten criminals who killed him ? well i do not think the criminals will fail, and hit back.

rubadubduba · 09-09-2012 06:02PM

Criminal wrote: »

Apparently a spokesman for Alan Ryan's gang said they will get the ten criminals who killed him ? well i do not think the criminals will fail, and hit back.

They'll go for anybody they think had a conection with it and that could be anybody they feel like, so some bystanders are going to die because of these dipsticks.
The hit man was susposedly shiped in and then shiped out so i guess they will be cluching at straws to find him.

Criminal · 09-09-2012 06:12PM

rubadubduba wrote: »

They'll go for anybody they think had a conection with it and that could be anybody they feel like, so some bystanders are going to die because of these dipsticks.
The hit man was susposedly shiped in and then shiped out so i guess they will be cluching at straws to find him.

The him man cluching at straws to find him ? He may be hiding in here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIr7KABvCk0

:D:D

sing_dumb · 09-09-2012 06:25PM

I knew the Ryan family from the local National school gates, and I remember Alan as a good-looking kid, always impeccably turned out, hair immaculate, and only ever wearing the best designer gear, like all his siblings. His parents were lovely, quiet people, but, I remember AR too as as a spoilt, whingey little pup, who bore all the hallmarks of having chronic ADHD, aka being a bold little fkkkkr!!!. We left Donaghmede in the early 2000's, got great money for our house, coz the Celtic Tiger was rampant then, and when we were leaving, there was huge wealth in the area, lovely new cars and house extensions and expensive holidays, etc etc, as everyone was working and earning a fortune. I can understand local lads getting involved with drugs, drink, crime, early parenthood etc etc, but what I cannot understand is how AR got involved with the IRA. That simply was never an issue in Donaghmede. Like, who fed him all that sh*te about Republican hereos and Fenian glory? He had to have been indoctrinated into all that crap by SOMEBODY??
Donaghmede was always known as a damned un-lucky place to live, and when we had our last child there, the Local Health Nurse said she would'nt live there even if she got a house for nothing in it. Somebody once said that Donaghmede was actually the site where Brian Boru died, in 1014, coz local boundaries and townlands were different then, and that the whole area was cursed. But, I do know that the rate of youth deaths in Donaghmede was huge, from suicides, murders, car crashes, drugs, etc, despite the growing affluence in the general area.
Now AR has brought such infamy into that working class area,and looking at the news pics from this week, I feel sorry for the good people living there, I really do. They must be scared stiff, not knowing what sort of revenge or savagery will be inflicted on their area next.

rubadubduba · 09-09-2012 06:26PM

C'mon now Criminal, you and i know these in the link are just a few yobs dressing up for fun and the hit man aint in there.:D

gosuckonalemon · 09-09-2012 07:25PM

sing_dumb wrote: »

I knew the Ryan family from the local National school gates, and I remember Alan as a good-looking kid, always impeccably turned out, hair immaculate, and only ever wearing the best designer gear, like all his siblings. His parents were lovely, quiet people, but, I remember AR too as as a spoilt, whingey little pup, who bore all the hallmarks of having chronic ADHD, aka being a bold little fkkkkr!!!. We left Donaghmede in the early 2000's, got great money for our house, coz the Celtic Tiger was rampant then, and when we were leaving, there was huge wealth in the area, lovely new cars and house extensions and expensive holidays, etc etc, as everyone was working and earning a fortune. I can understand local lads getting involved with drugs, drink, crime, early parenthood etc etc, but what I cannot understand is how AR got involved with the IRA. That simply was never an issue in Donaghmede. Like, who fed him all that sh*te about Republican hereos and Fenian glory? He had to have been indoctrinated into all that crap by SOMEBODY??
Donaghmede was always known as a damned un-lucky place to live, and when we had our last child there, the Local Health Nurse said she would'nt live there even if she got a house for nothing in it. Somebody once said that Donaghmede was actually the site where Brian Boru died, in 1014, coz local boundaries and townlands were different then, and that the whole area was cursed. But, I do know that the rate of youth deaths in Donaghmede was huge, from suicides, murders, car crashes, drugs, etc, despite the growing affluence in the general area.
Now AR has brought such infamy into that working class area,and looking at the news pics from this week, I feel sorry for the good people living there, I really do. They must be scared stiff, not knowing what sort of revenge or savagery will be inflicted on their area next.

Nothing. Why would they? More than likely the knacker who killed this knacker doesn't live in Donaghmeade. The place, although it may be a ****hole, has only become safer. Tell the kids to chill.

DublinC · 09-09-2012 08:28PM

Family has been living here for over 30 years, quite unsure as to why you'd call it a ****hole? I see no problem, the death of Alan and the funeral which followed doesn't make it so. I don't think people are scared stiff as a result of this, it's just another day in Ireland. It could have happened anywhere.

Fenian Army · 09-09-2012 08:38PM

I have it on good authority that drug figures have taken this opportunity to go on a holiday.

Lelantos · 09-09-2012 08:42PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

I have it on good authority that drug figures have taken this opportunity to go on a holiday.

A well earned holiday?

RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

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