Battle of the presenters

oppenheimer1 · 08-09-2012 04:09PM

I guess this depends on what way you think presenters should be paid, should it be proportional to their popularity, listenership and revenue generating ability or some form of calculation which takes difficulty of work multiplied by hours a week.

I don't think the RTE presenters are actually that popular and that people tune into their programmes to hear them. The value that these programmes have is that they are on RTE and have a wide reach and generally higher production values.

HerrScheisse · 08-09-2012 04:33PM

He earns more than some heads of state for being a receptor of moans over the airwaves. Once the seniors learn to vent on the internet instead of picking up a crooked horn, this type of state sponsored chatter can be abolished. Previously they used to exorcise their bile via letters pages to the dailies. It is all a matter of media, and radio, in particular "radio personalities", are not so important in the grand scheme of things.

They should play music, be grateful for their oversized gratuity, and STFU.

HerrScheisse · 08-09-2012 04:36PM

This man has it exactly!

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ah, yeah.. yeah.. aah.

Aaah.. yeah... I hear ya.

Aaah.. yeah.. ah.

Chuck Stone · 08-09-2012 04:36PM

I believe you could get a person who does a good impression of Joe Duffy and put him in the place of JD with a bit of training and his listeners wouldn't be all that bothered.

De lioveloine wit Jo Duffi.

HerrScheisse · 08-09-2012 05:04PM

He may even do a better job, at a fraction of the cost to the taxpayer.

"Yer Joe, shue yerrah, tis a terrible shtate o affairs win reedio prisentors earn less dan a herd o shate."

Pacing Mule · 08-09-2012 05:08PM

Namlub wrote: »

Bold type makes my point more valid

Especially when I'm bumping a zombie thread

seligehgit · 08-09-2012 05:15PM

Seriously rate Philip Boucher Hayes as a presenter,I can not tolerate Joe Duffy.

Rigol · 08-09-2012 05:52PM

There is no Joe Duffy.
Theres a playlist.

Connect the call.
Press 'play random'.

1. And where did it happen Mary.
2. Did they found out who took it.
3. God its awful.
4. And did nobody stop and help.
5. How long did it take you to pull it out.
6. And where were the Gardai.
7. I suppose it had sentimental value.
8. And the HSE wouldn't pay for your varicous vein operation. What sort of country are we living in.

Turpentine · 08-09-2012 06:06PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Derek Davies would do the Joe Duffey slot for a bag of chips and a few cream buns.

Heck, he'd probably bring his own.

Here's the Joe Duffy soundboard for anyone who hasn't seen it yet. It's genius:
http://clamnuts.com/joe-duffy-soundboard-2/

Benedict · 09-09-2012 09:56AM

People like Joe Duffy perform an important role - Irish people who have, say, been burgled, like to hear how others have coped. But nurses also perform an important role. So do the gardai. So do carers for the old! So what if a special needs assistant said "I perform an important role in the community, so I'll need 5 or 6 grand a week".

The one topic you will NEVER EVER hear openly debated on Joe Duffy or the Late Late or Prime Time etc is "why can a presenter demand a higher salary than Barak Obama and still be way below the top earners" in RTE?

It's your money folks! While carers' hours are being threatened, a presenter can toddle off to the bank with a five figure sum each week!

Maybe you can't fool all of the people all of the time. But it seems you sure can fool most of them!

09-09-2012 10:28AM

Who does Joe call to complain to

Cookie_Monster · 09-09-2012 10:41AM

bluewolf wrote: »

Who does Joe call to complain to

he just stands in front of the mirror and whines to himself.

Benedict · 09-09-2012 11:01AM

Making a few entries in this thread has been a real eye-opener!

I now have a much better understanding of how can a person can spend a few hours a day in RTE (5 days a week) and get paid more per annum than the French Head of State. Or get paid more per hour that a top surgeon?

Look at the number of replies that focus on making smart comments! Like "who does Joe complain to?"

You know, this is your money! If you hired a plumber and he charged four grand for fixing a tap, would you make a comment on colour of his van? Or would you say "Hang on a second. You're not getting four grand for fixing a tap".

Judging from some of the comments on this thread, I have a hunch that the four grand would be paid no problem and the colour of the van would be criticised.

Dear oh dear! Fools and their money are easily parted.

We're right eejits to tolerate it. And remember that you - yes YOU - are paying for this rip-off.

So make a smart comment about that!

09-09-2012 11:07AM

Yeah, boards.ie & rte have a contract whereby posting smart comments on a thread forbids me from actually taking any real life action on an issue I feel strongly about.
No wait, it doesn't.

Benedict · 10-09-2012 01:34PM

While some RTE presenters can get paid 3k per hour's work, the people who pay can only rise to a few jaded wise-cracks!

Well done folks! You're hilarious - and really really generous!

And just imagine, all that cash you're doling out could be used for something stupid like keeping hospital wards from closing.

But the Irish people know that paying vast fortunes to presenters is much better.

Very clever!

_feedback_ · 10-09-2012 01:46PM

Benedict wrote: »

While some RTE presenters can get paid 3k per hour's work, the people who pay can only rise to a few jaded wise-cracks!

Well done folks! You're hilarious - and really really generous!

And just imagine, all that cash you're doling out could be used for something stupid like keeping hospital wards from closing.

But the Irish people know that paying vast fortunes to presenters is much better.

Very clever!

You are making some good points but the bold text is really annoying...

Why don't you try to organise a protest? I'd go to it.

fishy fishy · 10-09-2012 01:55PM

cut their wages - if they don't like it, fire them.

They get paid way too much anyway - there are plenty others that could be happy to do their jobs for a reasonable fee.

its time for a shake up in that place anyway - too much of the same faces and attitudes for way too long.

Capt'n Midnight · 10-09-2012 09:22PM

There are TV ratings and JNLR surveys so not exactly rocket science to tell how many listeners switch channels if Joe is on holidays or stay with the show when it's done with other presenters.

Also for many of these people they aren't employed by RTE they have their own production companies, in which case they cream off more money, at the expense of job security - time to trim the fat.

Aidric · 10-09-2012 09:34PM

Lumbo wrote: »

Mark Cagney's a fine one to be talking about other peoples wages. Possibly the worst presenter on TV.

He is a particularly slimy individual, makes me feel uneasy in fact. And why is he orange?

Benedict · 11-09-2012 09:12PM

People complain about the price of a pint. Marian Finucane earns the price of a pint every six seconds of broadcasting.

After 30 seconds, she has earned the price of 5 pints.

1 minute, 10 pints.

Are we mad?

She is good at what she does. But so is your local nurse or carer?

Are we totally mad?

Or stupid?

Voltex · 11-09-2012 10:11PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Seriously rate Philip Boucher Hayes as a presenter,I can not tolerate Joe Duffy.

He used to fill in for Rachel English on 5-7 live and I really thought he'd get the anchor after she finished up...

Really one of RTE's finest and seriously under rated!

dirtyden · 11-09-2012 10:36PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

The DG / Controller of Radio should lay it down simply to the big names - Given RTE's budgetary constraints, we're cutting salaries by 50%. That leaves you with three options:

1) Go to TV3 / Other Commercial Radio - Enjoy lower production values, lower audience share, less support staff and considerably less job security.

2) Try your luck in Britain - Where the majority of RTE 'talent' will find their performance subjected to far greater levels of scrutiny from station bosses, the press and public alike.

3) Agree a new contract with RTE and just be thankful you're doing a job you love for many multiples of the average industrial wage.

But it is not quite that simple. Radio is a numbers game. Joe Duffy gets a lot more listeners than anyone else at that hour of the day in this country. Therefore advertising slots will be sold at a premium.

RTE could do what you suggest and risk one of their key names leaving losing listeners and revenue or pay what they feel duffy is worth.

I dont understand the success of his show but his show is definitely successful and he must be a big part of that.

enfant terrible · 11-09-2012 11:01PM

dirtyden wrote: »

But it is not quite that simple. Radio is a numbers game. Joe Duffy gets a lot more listeners than anyone else at that hour of the day in this country. Therefore advertising slots will be sold at a premium.

RTE could do what you suggest and risk one of their key names leaving losing listeners and revenue or pay what they feel duffy is worth.

I dont understand the success of his show but his show is definitely successful and he must be a big part of that.

What about Marian Finucane then?

Who actually has the power to cut her wages or even let her go?

dirtyden · 11-09-2012 11:09PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

What about Marian Finucane then?

Who actually has the power to cut her wages or even let her go?

The people who pay her.

What is your point?

enfant terrible · 11-09-2012 11:12PM

dirtyden wrote: »

The people who pay her.

What is your point?

No need to be rude.

Do her listening figures justify her salary like Joe Duffy's might?

dirtyden · 11-09-2012 11:18PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

No need to be rude.

Do her listening figures justify her salary like Joe Duffy's might?

I was not being rude. I could not make head nor tail of the point you were making. I passed a comment on Joe Duffy and you came from nowhere with something about Marian Finucane. I have no clue about her show.

I would need the figures to answer that question. I dont have them. If RTE feels she is bringing in more revenue than her show costs then yes.

I am sure there is some economic justification to these fees/salaries.

EchoO · 11-09-2012 11:18PM

Duffy was being a bit selective in that interview, he failed to mention the the fact that Dunphy had a Saturday morning show on RTE Radio 1 with over 260,000 listeners. After a year with Newstalk he only managed an audience of 50,000 and the station was trying to cut that 100,000 euro salary of his in half before he left.

enfant terrible · 11-09-2012 11:25PM

dirtyden wrote: »

I was not being rude. I could not make head nor tail of the point you were making. I passed a comment on Joe Duffy and you came from nowhere with something about Marian Finucane. I have no clue about her show.

" I dont understand the success of his show but his show is definitely successful and he must be a big part of that."

"What about Marian Finucane then?"

You couldn't figure out what I was asking no?

Wasn't that complicated.

dirtyden · 11-09-2012 11:35PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

" I dont understand the success of his show but his show is definitely successful and he must be a big part of that."

"What about Marian Finucane then?"

You couldn't figure out what I was asking no?

Wasn't that complicated.

Why are you trying to start a pointless argument here.

Debate my original point if you like, or explain the point you are trying to make. I know nothing about Marian Finucane.

What has Marian Finucanes pay got to do with Joe Duffy's? As far as I know most of these presenters are contracted individually and charge RTE for their services. What does Finucane get paid, what does her show pull in advertising?

enfant terrible · 11-09-2012 11:36PM

dirtyden wrote: »

Why are you trying to start a pointless argument here.

Debate my original point if you like, or explain the point you are trying to make. I know nothing about Marian Finucane.

What has Marian Finucanes pay got to do with Joe Duffy's? As far as I know most of these presenters are contracted individually and charge RTE for their services. What does Finucane get paid, what does her show pull in advertising?

Alright forget about it.

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