Dacia Duster

kippy · 08-09-2012 08:32PM

vectra wrote: »

Back on topic.
I would not touch one of those Dacias until they are at least one year here.

Well I never buy brand new anyway but yes, I'd like to see them at least 2 years down the road before looking at getting one.

08-09-2012 08:41PM

vectra wrote: »

Probably for a similar reason you chose Skoda out of the many manufacturers out there...............

I chose Skoda as they have VW mechanicals, floor pans, switchgear etc etc etc but are thousands cheaper than their VW siblings. Much like Dacia and Nissan/Renault.

I can't see any logical reason for Rover being mentioned, I can think of a few retarded reasons which is where you're coming from no doubt.

Cicero · 08-09-2012 08:51PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Hi Folks,

Would you like a brand new car for €14999?

http://www.carzone.ie/reviews/new-car-reviews/Dacia/Duster/2013/143/

What do you think?

A couple of things worth noting

1. It is built in the same place as the Renault Fluence.

2. It shares the same 1.5 DCi engine as Renault and Nissan Quashquai.

Would you buy one?

If I was in the market for a car in that price range, it would merit a 2nd look, definitely.

I think a lot of posters in this thread have missed the point of the Dacia marketing campaign. ... They're comparing themselves to a Quasqai...but they're not a Quasqai...they just look something like a Quasqai....but the job is done....

"New Fiesta and Corsa market purveyors look out" is probably more accurate .. You get a lot more car for your money at this price and will sway some people from this "super mini " market.

vectra · 08-09-2012 08:57PM

RoverJames wrote: »

I chose Skoda as they have VW mechanicals, floor pans, switchgear etc etc etc but are thousands cheaper than their VW siblings. Much like Dacia and Nissan/Renault.

I can't see any logical reason for Rover being mentioned, I can think of a few retarded reasons which is where you're coming from no doubt.

The discussion evolved around Nissan/Renault/Dacia.

Had nothing to do with VAG cars.

You chose Skoda for a retarded reason.

08-09-2012 09:15PM

vectra wrote: »

............
You chose Skoda for a retarded reason.

Skoda are a value for money offering from the VAG stable, Dacia are the value for money offering from the Renault/Nissan stable.

Skoda are one of the few brands available in Ireland that are analgous to Dacia

Cicero · 08-09-2012 09:27PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Dacia are the value for money offering from the Renault/Nissan stable.
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Who said?

08-09-2012 09:30PM

Cicero wrote: »

Who said?

Are you querying that Dacia are a subsidiary of Renault?
Presumably you can't be disputing they share engines etc and cost thousands less.

Cicero · 08-09-2012 09:35PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Are you querying that Dacia are a subsidiary of Renault?
Presumably you can't be disputing they share engines etc and cost thousands less.

I'm picking up on your "value for money" wording...that's all...Im not attacking you personally .. I think weather it's value for money in Ireland remains to be seen..,don't you?

MidlandsM · 08-09-2012 09:43PM

copacetic wrote: »

How can you count the 6k baloon payment in 3 years as a cash deposit? The deposit is the deposit denoting else, have you never seen a car finance deal before?

According to Irish times the deal is

Looks to be aimed at someone trading in a 4k car, they pay 149 a month and then in 3 years can either hand car back and walk away or pay the 6k to keep it.
How you worked out that is in no way attractive I'll never know, by all accounts it's been very attractive to loads of people already.

As Dacia are giving you a GMFV of 6k after 3 years, which is normally lower than actual value, they will be worth 8/9k after 2 years.

Anyone who thinks a largish 2 year old car with a 3 year warranty left will only be worth 5k is nuts tbh.

whatever way to look at it, the 11k in whatever form, cash or whatever has to be handed over for that deal, wheather it be disguised as 4k trade in price on the car you trade in, and then the baloon you have to pay to keep the car.....at the end........it'll all 11k out of someones pocket.....in whatever form it takes......

in short, its a sh1t deal.

08-09-2012 09:44PM

A family car for €15,000 with the Renault 1.5 diesel engine is what the folks at Renault no doubt consider value for money ....

http://www.dacia.ie/

"Shockingly affordable.... " emblazoned on the homepage

The Dacia Way...

"We are Dacia.

We believe that affordable shouldn’t have to mean compromise.

On quality, services or smiles.

So we’ve made an enemy of the unnecessary.

Our simple range of cleverly-designed cars uses only useful technology.

Which means you only pay for what you need.

Our prices are clear and transparent.

Because the Dacia way is your way.

Simple. Intelligent.

It’s what made us the fastest growing car brand in Europe since 2004"

ltdslipdiff · 08-09-2012 09:46PM

Reaches for popcorn.....

Cicero · 08-09-2012 09:47PM

^^^edit..and with 150 posts so far, I think we're doing Dacias marketing for them. Saw a lot of these cars on the mainland ths Summer.

IMO..They're going to be as common as Renaults are currently in this country within a few years..whether they're any good....? Time will tell... But in the meantime... The mainstream brands like Opel and Ford will definitely suffer in the small and family car market

Cicero · 08-09-2012 09:52PM

RoverJames wrote: »

A family car for €15,000 with the Renault 1.5 diesel engine is what the folks at Renault no doubt consider value for money ....

http://www.dacia.ie/

"Shockingly affordable.... " emblazoned on the homepage

The Dacia Way...

"We are Dacia.

We believe that affordable shouldn’t have to mean compromise.

On quality, services or smiles.

So we’ve made an enemy of the unnecessary.

Our simple range of cleverly-designed cars uses only useful technology.

Which means you only pay for what you need.

Our prices are clear and transparent.

Because the Dacia way is your way.

Simple. Intelligent.

It’s what made us the fastest growing car brand in Europe since 2004"

You posted as RoverJames when posting your comments...not the Dacia marketing dept...anyway..,like I said, time will tell..:)

08-09-2012 09:52PM

ltdslipdiff wrote: »

Reaches for popcorn.....

Bummer, what did I miss

Cicero wrote: »

^^^edit.........

08-09-2012 09:53PM

Cicero wrote: »

You posted as RoverJames when posting your comments...not the Dacia marketing dept...anyway..,like I said, time will tell..:)

Indeed I did, I said Dacia were the value for money offering from Renault, I stand over that comment

Just because I said they were that (the offering) does not mean I consider them value for money, or not for that matter.

Cicero · 08-09-2012 10:01PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Indeed I did, I said Dacia were the value for money offering from Renault, I stand over that comment
Just because I said they were that (the offering) does not mean I consider them value for money, or not for that matter.

You're using marketing language in your posts to describe a car.i certainly took from your post that you believed that.

copacetic · 08-09-2012 10:14PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

whatever way to look at it, the 11k in whatever form, cash or whatever has to be handed over for that deal, wheather it be disguised as 4k trade in price on the car you trade in, and then the baloon you have to pay to keep the car.....at the end........it'll all 11k out of someones pocket.....in whatever form it takes......

in short, its a sh1t deal.

It's a 15k car, of course you have to spend money out of yourpocket to own it, and it's not 11k either obviously, it'll be over 17k over 3 years if you finance it.

The same as every single other car finance or loan deal that's ever existed.

08-09-2012 10:16PM

Cicero wrote: »

You're using marketing language in your posts to describe a car.i certainly took from your post that you believed that.

Value for money offering - marketing language

Are we to only use foundation level Leaving Cert standard English :pac:

Cicero · 08-09-2012 10:22PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Value for money offering - marketing language

Are we to only use foundation level Leaving Cert standard English :pac:

I'm not here to get personal with your posts but you obviously don't have the same regard for others posts.

Cicero · 08-09-2012 10:28PM

Heres the Dacia price list ...should be noted that metallic paint is eur 500 extra and 5 year warranty is 549 extra...couple that with the Signature version which is what many will want and which will be marketed @ 16,990 and the total cost is coming towards 18,000 euro

http://www.dacia.ie/media/pdf/att00099938/DusterPriceList.pdf

08-09-2012 10:29PM

You're the one telling me what sort of language I'm using in my posts

I haven't passed any comment about your posts or the language they're constructed from. I am however disputing that the language I used was "marketing language" as you put it, also your interpretation of my post was incorrect.

MidlandsM · 08-09-2012 10:54PM

copacetic wrote: »

It's a 15k car, of course you have to spend money out of yourpocket to own it, and it's not 11k either obviously, it'll be over 17k over 3 years if you finance it.

The same as every single other car finance or loan deal that's ever existed.

ohhh jasus........:pac:

:pac:

i give up on ya...

delthedriver · 09-09-2012 12:33AM

zinzan wrote: »

Which models did you go for?

2 base models
Best regards
Sincerely

zinzan · 09-09-2012 09:46AM

delthedriver wrote: »

2 base models
Best regards
Sincerely

Thanks for that - was wondering if you got one 2WD, one 4WD so you could do a 'living with' comparison!
Was about to pull the trigger on the 4WD version, but now have an option on a 'hand-me-down' Citroen C5 estate for cheap so can't justify it

Cantona's Collars · 09-09-2012 10:01AM

I took a spin in the base model & there was nothing basic about it,the base models of certain other makes are more basic than the Duster.For a spacious family vehicle I think €15k is very reasonable,the €18k model has 4wd & all the toys but even at that price it's cheap compared to any other 4wd on the road.

The finance options are 2 fold,there's your 'normal' finance that we are all used to where you pay the average €350 odd a month then own the car or you can take an option based on your milage & pay less per month (average mileage gets you a payment of €149 a month) then choose to pay a balloon payment at the end of the term or Renault/Dacia give you the keys of a brand new Dacia.This type of finance deal is popular in other countries.

ltdslipdiff · 09-09-2012 10:12AM

Cicero wrote: »

Heres the Dacia price list ...should be noted that metallic paint is eur 500 extra and 5 year warranty is 549 extra...couple that with the Signature version which is what many will want and which will be marketed @ 16,990 and the total cost is coming towards 18,000 euro

http://www.dacia.ie/media/pdf/att00099938/DusterPriceList.pdf[/QUOTE]

Do you still think that compared to its closest rivals the Dacia isn't good value for money? Every manufacturer charges for metallic paint and the 3 Year/100,000 klm Warranty is still better than alot of other mainstream brands, plus the nuts and bolts are all from the Renault/Nissan parts bin so they're some way reliable. I would still compare the fit finish and trim to the last generation of Daewoo/Chevrolets and there's still loads of them being driven around! If you needed a car with a big boot, diesel, low tax (for now) and an elevated driving position you can't lose!

You wouldn't buy a mid-spec Clio/Corsa/Polo/Micra diesel for the Signature spec Dacia.

Jellicoe · 09-09-2012 03:16PM

For 15k, you get a shiny brand new, reasonable sized modern diesel car, where no one else’s ass will have sweated and farted into your seats, or picked their noise in.

No one is trying to claim the duster is going to be na X5 or even a Quashqai

It's a very very average, get me from A-B, low specked brand new shiny car, for below average prices.

Not everyone's cup of tea, but it's going to suit a lot of buyers, who like to buy new, and who've done the 'luxury' car badge thing and found the experience not worth the extra

Buying ANY new model from ANY manufacturer these days is a gamble.

The actual model has now become a far better guide to reliability in recent years than the actual make.

This model has been already released a few years in other countries and has at least proved to be as reliable as average, if not more so.

And thank God for new car buyers, the more the better, otherwise where would the rest of us get our used cars.

More power to these people who are willing to buy and try these dusters I say.

And yes, sections of the Irish motor trade will continue to run these cars down if they see them as a threat.

09-09-2012 03:27PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

.....
Not everyone's cup of tea, but it's going to suit a lot of buyers, who like to buy new, and who've done the 'luxury' car badge thing and found the experience not worth the extra

.... luxury as in...?

Jellicoe · 09-09-2012 03:30PM

RoverJames wrote: »

.... luxury as in...?

Rover ?

09-09-2012 03:59PM

So you won't elaborate so?

Dacia Duster

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