RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

gosuckonalemon · 07-09-2012 12:06PM

What about the families of all the people had terrorized or had murdered?

Of course his family will grieve. But they no doubt were well looked after from the proceeds of his ill gotten gains.

Anyone who even tries to justify what he did and what he represented is a scumbag.

Fenian Army · 07-09-2012 12:10PM

Davidth88 wrote: »

Goodness me , reading some of this thread you would think the deceased was some sort of community leader , who's only crime was helping old women across the street.

If he truly wanted to change things , he had a good local( ish ) example in the likes of Tony Gregory , as far as I know he was never involved/linked with extortion etc , but he truly worked for his community.

For the local area to have black flags/ tricolours this must be sickening to the local law abiding residents and also quite intimidating.

If he wasn't linked to crime/ criminals then why have people spoken people being scared to take these down ?

As for this nonsense of the ' Real ' IRA or whatever they want to call themselves this week having shows of strength like guns being discharged and these flags and people talking like this is legitimate ( ie phrases like ' one of their own ' etc ) , sickening , this is something that belongs in another era , and possibly in another part of these Isles .

Tony Gregory was a very sound Irish Republican.

Red About Town · 07-09-2012 12:13PM

Hannibal Barca. wrote: »

Kind of sad to see the support this guy actually has. He was a IRA terrorist. Why show any sympathy? He was in a organisation which was more than happy enough to kill a young police officer for no other reason than he was a Catholic. Scumbags the lot of them.

I think they killed the police officer because he was just that. Don't think religion came into it.

Note: I utterly condemn killing of police officers/political violence.

OnTheCounter · 07-09-2012 12:20PM

Going from the thread title it seems people are surprised that he was shot in "broad daylight".

It makes him easier to see.

Im also waiting to be told what favours this pillar of the donaghmede area did for members of the community?

billybudd · 07-09-2012 12:25PM

Opie wrote: »

The reason I think she is making sense is that she is trying to say that the chap had 2 sides, while not glorifying either side. If people read her messages it comes across quite clearly.

AR may never have been charged with any murders, but I'm sure that there was criminality, intimidation, extortion etc. These stories have not come out of thin air. I'm not saying that he was not the devil that the media are trying to portray, but at the same time he probably was not the saint that some are trying to portray.

I didnt know AR, I'm not from Donaghmede, I'm not part of any republican organisation, I just think some of the things being said about him are a bit much and if he has family and friends reading this its not a nice thing for them to have to listen to.

He was like any other one that rules his life through, greed, intimidation and brutality, my point is that the majority in donaghmede would not know or care who he is and by far and large it is a respectable area with very low social problems, where i live is not too far from Donaghmede and is quite the oposite with a lot of young criminals and alot of anti social behaviour.

where i come from you aspire to live in Donaghmede.

The flags and graffiti were not put up by a community mourning a favourite son but by young impressionable kids lured into a world of violence, intimidation and greed.

The two sides theory is stupid and grotesque.

pauld · 07-09-2012 12:49PM

living in Donaghmede for 12 years now , never seen him, never heard of him. I assume I am not unique in this regard and that 98% of the rest of the population in Donagmede can likewise make the same statement!

Opie · 07-09-2012 02:13PM

billybudd wrote: »

He was like any other one that rules his life through, greed, intimidation and brutality, my point is that the majority in donaghmede would not know or care who he is and by far and large it is a respectable area with very low social problems, where i live is not too far from Donaghmede and is quite the oposite with a lot of young criminals and alot of anti social behaviour.

where i come from you aspire to live in Donaghmede.

The flags and graffiti were not put up by a community mourning a favourite son but by young impressionable kids lured into a world of violence, intimidation and greed.

The two sides theory is stupid and grotesque.

Fair enough, I take your points on board. I wasn't trying to glorify the fella as I dont know him, and I wasnt trying to pidgeon-hole Donaghmede, as I agree, it is a nice area. My main issues were 1) that if any family members or friends were reading it may upset them, and 2) That DonaghmedeGirl was making sensible points and was being rundown ufairly by the grammar police on here.

07-09-2012 02:20PM

Opie wrote: »

My main issues were 1) that if any family members or friends were reading it may upset them, .

if that's how they choose to remember him by looking up what people are saying about him on Boards, that baffles me.
The only ones reading whats being said about him on boards is the so called "Freedom fighters" and his criminal associates.

Opie · 07-09-2012 02:24PM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

if that's how they choose to remember him by looking up what people are saying about him on Boards, that baffles me.
The only ones reading whats being said about him on boards is the so called "Freedom fighters" and his criminal associates.

You dont know that for sure. OK, highly unlikey that his mother is on Boards, but younger members of his family - young brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, cousins may be.

I'm not trying to defend the fella, just to try and clarify that.

billybudd · 07-09-2012 02:28PM

Opie wrote: »

Fair enough, I take your points on board. I wasn't trying to glorify the fella as I dont know him, and I wasnt trying to pidgeon-hole Donaghmede, as I agree, it is a nice area. My main issues were 1) that if any family members or friends were reading it may upset them, and 2) That DonaghmedeGirl was making sensible points and was being rundown ufairly by the grammar police on here.

As difficult as that would be for any parent thats just the reality of what they have to deal with and thats what their son/s became.

Donaghmede girl problem is that she is trying to make donaghmede to be smaller and secular than it actually is and also that he did some good for the community which is not true, maybe he helped a few people with some problems but as i said Donaghmede is vast and in general has not got social problems that are hugely problematic.

She was really blurring the lines from what people think he was to what he actually was.

I dont agree with the grammar nazis either, not everyone attends great schools.

07-09-2012 02:30PM

Opie wrote: »

You dont know that for sure. OK, highly unlikey that his mother is on Boards, but younger members of his family - young brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, cousins may be.

I'm not trying to defend the fella, just to try and clarify that.

Maybe they are, still baffles me as to why?
And maybe it's just me, but the fact that he was shot multiple times in broad daylight and left to bleed on the side of the road would upset me far more than some internet user calling him a scumbag.
Is defending his honour online more important than getting justice for an innocent man who was murdered?

gosuckonalemon · 07-09-2012 02:31PM

Opie wrote: »

You dont know that for sure. OK, highly unlikey that his mother is on Boards, but younger members of his family - young brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, cousins may be.

I'm not trying to defend the fella, just to try and clarify that.

Would they not have more important things to be dealing with than boards?

And also, his entire family, nuclear and extended, would have known well what kind of person he was. They would hardly be shocked to read negative things about him.

If they were in any way decent, they would have disowned him a long time ago.

The family members that supported his way of life deserve to be hurt with what they read.

Fenian Army · 07-09-2012 04:08PM

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

Would they not have more important things to be dealing with than boards?

And also, his entire family, nuclear and extended, would have known well what kind of person he was. They would hardly be shocked to read negative things about him.

If they were in any way decent, they would have disowned him a long time ago.

The family members that supported his way of life deserve to be hurt with what they read.

I'm sure his small child is a complete scumbag.

Criminal · 07-09-2012 04:12PM

Alan Ryan was no Republican. No Republican has taken money of the gangs. Criminal's take money of Criminal's, THE FACT he got shot dead is a surprise to no-body, they think the gangs are idiot's fool's etc etc. Gangs run criminal operations all the time 24-7 so they are not idiots criminals yes, fools no.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-09-2012 04:15PM

Great thread:D

ballsymchugh · 07-09-2012 04:16PM

Criminal wrote: »

Alan Ryan was no Republican. No Republican has taken money of the gangs. Criminal's take money of Criminal's, THE FACT he got shot dead is a surprise to no-body, they think the gangs are idiot's fool's etc etc. Gangs run criminal operations all the time 24-7 so they are not idiots criminals yes, fools no.

:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g

Fenian Army · 07-09-2012 04:16PM

Criminal wrote: »

Alan Ryan was no Republican. No Republican has taken money of the gangs. Criminal's take money of Criminal's, THE FACT he got shot dead is a surprise to no-body, they think the gangs are idiot's fool's etc etc. Gangs run criminal operations all the time 24-7 so they are not idiots criminals yes, fools no.

I'd agree, seems other don't

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-06-at-22.47.57.jpg

Criminal · 07-09-2012 04:17PM

Chickens come home to roost, appear in my thoughts.

humanji · 07-09-2012 04:18PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

I'd agree, seems other don't

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-06-at-22.47.57.jpg

Why's there a guy playing a violin?

Fenian Army · 07-09-2012 04:19PM

humanji wrote: »

Why's there a guy playing a violin?

Haha

It does look like a violin

07-09-2012 04:20PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

I'd agree, seems other don't

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-06-at-22.47.57.jpg

:pac:
He volunteered to do all that ****e?
No wages or nothing?
No wonder some thought he was a fantastic community person.

Criminal · 07-09-2012 04:22PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

I'd agree, seems other don't

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-06-at-22.47.57.jpg[/QUO) Painting wall ? i am sure the people who killed him, have paint as well.

Criminal · 07-09-2012 04:27PM

Hardware shops have run out of paint.

nudger · 07-09-2012 04:30PM

Man arrested in relation to the shooting.

Donaghmedegirl · 07-09-2012 04:31PM

billybudd wrote: »

Opie wrote: »

Fair enough, I take your points on board. I wasn't trying to glorify the fella as I dont know him, and I wasnt trying to pidgeon-hole Donaghmede, as I agree, it is a nice area. My main issues were 1) that if any family members or friends were reading it may upset them, and 2) That DonaghmedeGirl was making sensible points and was being rundown ufairly by the grammar police on here.

As difficult as that would be for any parent thats just the reality of what they have to deal with and thats what their son/s became.

Donaghmede girl problem is that she is trying to make donaghmede to be smaller and secular than it actually is and also that he did some good for the community which is not true, maybe he helped a few people with some problems but as i said Donaghmede is vast and in general has not got social problems that are hugely problematic.

She was really blurring the lines from what people think he was to what he actually was.

I dont agree with the grammar nazis either, not everyone attends great schools.

Maybe I shouldn't have used the word donaghmede but I'm talkin about my community the Grang Abbey community within donaghmede where I grew up on the same street as Alan I'm talking about my neighboirs who knew Alan also, who has a totally different portrayal of Alan to what he actually was because Alan portrayed himself to our community as the good guy. My opinion of Alan is the day Alan was arrested in
Meath at an Ira training camp been thought how to use weapons I learned then he was scum and always new that the day Alan would die it would be through murder and through no fault but his own not his families or the good community we have in grange abbey

07-09-2012 04:32PM

nudger wrote: »

Man arrested in relation to the shooting.

So there was.
In his 40's.
Hope he has life insurance.

gosuckonalemon · 07-09-2012 04:33PM

Criminal wrote: »

Alan Ryan was no Republican. No Republican has taken money of the gangs. Criminal's take money of Criminal's, THE FACT he got shot dead is a surprise to no-body, they think the gangs are idiot's fool's etc etc. Gangs run criminal operations all the time 24-7 so they are not idiots criminals yes, fools no.

You'd wanna tell all his disciples putting up tricolors and murals all over the place today.

And what are you on about Reps don't take money off criminals? How else do they make their money?? Extortion, protection rackets...

They take money off Publicans to protect them from drug dealers, then also take money off the dealers.

Scumbags!!

Red_Wake · 07-09-2012 04:36PM

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

You'd wanna tell all his disciples putting up tricolors and murals all over the place today.

And what are you on about Reps don't take money off criminals? How else do they make their money?? Extortion, protection rackets...

They take money off Publicans to protect them from drug dealers, then also take money off the dealers.

Scumbags!!

It's for the good of Ireland's future doncha know!:pac:

Acceptable casualties and all that.

Criminal · 07-09-2012 04:36PM

Paint on walls ? designed to impress who ?. I think that the people who killed this man will take no notice of it.

"an unfortunate case of mistaken identity" ? No think it was Alan Ryan they wanted to kill.

DipStick McSwindler · 07-09-2012 04:37PM

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RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

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