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Pathetic Anti-Irish sectarianism thriving in West Scotland

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  • #242
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    As I said, that's the lowest of the low when it comes to Rangers forums, but you're taking the words of three posters to judge a country :rolleyes:

    http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=199323&st=40

    I wasn't using that to judge anything,just offered an example of the fact that not all is rosy with a "taigs" presence at Ibrox.
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    There's another, including a great interview with Alan himself talking about his time at the club, but it's not bad news about Rangers or Scotland, so you will probably give it a miss.

    Nah i read that,it's good to see.Scotland still has a problem with anti Irish racism though.

    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Scotland used to have a major problem with it, it's still there but not anywhere near the level it was.
    You mean it was worse than it is now? Christ...
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Now unless you're going to actually come up with some facts to back up your innacurate assumptions about Rangers and Scotland, just stop.

    Read all of this:
    http://www.topix.com/forum/world-soccer/celtic/TAEFLFAOH0OS31OV3

    It will take you a while but please don't tell me that there isn't a virulent strain of anti Irish racism in Scotland.Don't worry,it's not all Rangers fans,some of the most vile comments are from a Dundee supporting Scots Nationalist who hates the old firm.


  • #243
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Also while your at it I am sure in fact I know google will also give you lots of information on the really good things about the Scots

    I'll do that,you can go and post a thread on a Rangers forum detailing the really good things about the Irish.See how well that goes down...
    I do so regularly again we are now seeing you for what you are a bigot


  • #244
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Where To wrote: »
    What's the difference?

    Ulster Scot it is then.
    You don't speak for the people of Donegal,that's for sure.


  • #245
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    I'll give it a read when I get a chance tomorrow. But is it really going to be any different to the things you might read on an Irish forum about English or British people in general? I doubt it, Irish people can be just as bad as Scots, but the whole country isn't judged on the basis of a small minority, particularly a small minority of keyboard hardmen who couldn't pick out Ireland on a map.


  • #246
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Glassheart wrote: »
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    As I said, that's the lowest of the low when it comes to Rangers forums, but you're taking the words of three posters to judge a country :rolleyes:

    http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=199323&st=40

    I wasn't using that to judge anything,just offered an example of the fact that not all is rosy with a "taigs" presence at Ibrox.
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    There's another, including a great interview with Alan himself talking about his time at the club, but it's not bad news about Rangers or Scotland, so you will probably give it a miss.

    Nah i read that,it's good to see.Scotland still has a problem with anti Irish racism though.

    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Scotland used to have a major problem with it, it's still there but not anywhere near the level it was.
    You mean it was worse than it is now? Christ...
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Now unless you're going to actually come up with some facts to back up your innacurate assumptions about Rangers and Scotland, just stop.

    Read all of this:
    http://www.topix.com/forum/world-soccer/celtic/TAEFLFAOH0OS31OV3

    It will take you a while but please don't tell me that there isn't a virulent strain of anti Irish racism in Scotland.Don't worry,it's not all Rangers fans,some of the most vile comments are from a Dundee supporting Scots Nationalist who hates the old firm.

    Lol you use a Celtic forum and you expect us to take you seriously. I see your keen enough to find out where posters are from why don't you enlighten us and tell us where you are from


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  • #247
    TheBuilder
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    It's a celtic forum? Well I can pretty much guess what that'll say then.

    Those people are on a par with those keyboard hardmen I spoke about, couldn't pick out Ireland on a map but will tell me they're more Irish than me because their great great great great great great granny was Irish and they support celtic.

    Arguments like that never work, you have to look at things from both sides.


  • #248
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    I do so regularly again we are now seeing you for what you are a bigot

    It doesn't seem to be working,you must try harder and get them to stop singing that wretched Famine Song.


  • #249
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Glassheart wrote: »
    It doesn't seem to be working,you must try harder and get them to stop singing that wretched Famine Song.

    Wow, you're way behind the times if you think that is still being sung.

    The whole "singing bad songs" nonsense has been done to death on both sides.


  • #250
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    It's a celtic forum? Well I can pretty much guess what that'll say then.

    Those people are on a par with those keyboard hardmen I spoke about, couldn't pick out Ireland on a map but will tell me they're more Irish than me because their great great great great great great granny was Irish and they support celtic.

    Arguments like that never work, you have to look at things from both sides.

    It's not a Celtic forum,and there is very little talk of football there.
    An Irish Celtic fan asks is Scotland an anti Irish country? Basically the answer he gets is YES.Read it.


  • #251
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Lol you use a Celtic forum and you expect us to take you seriously. I see your keen enough to find out where posters are from why don't you enlighten us and tell us where you are from

    You'll take me seriously if you read through that thread.
    I'm from Dublin.


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  • #252
    Glassheart
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'll give it a read when I get a chance tomorrow. But is it really going to be any different to the things you might read on an Irish forum about English or British people in general? I doubt it, Irish people can be just as bad as Scots, but the whole country isn't judged on the basis of a small minority, particularly a small minority of keyboard hardmen who couldn't pick out Ireland on a map.

    Some of it is genocidal,some of it is racial and of course some of it is sectarian.

    Irish people moan about "800 years" but it never descends into anything like the above.


  • #253
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Lol you use a Celtic forum and you expect us to take you seriously. I see your keen enough to find out where posters are from why don't you enlighten us and tell us where you are from

    You'll take me seriously if you read through that thread.
    I'm from Dublin.
    No I won't I read two pages and from what I could see its made up of the dickheads on both sides I have talked about in the main it suits you down to the ground.
    A Dub you must be happy to see a Rangets supporters club flourishing in your city then
    I also have to laugh at you citing the use of the word taig will you condemn the use of Orange Bastard wich is what we are termed as on most Celtic forums


  • #254
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    grenache wrote: »
    An article from a few years back but still an eye-opener. One of the saddest and most pathetic stories I've yet to read. Some people need to get a life.

    *You'll have to copy and paste the link to read full article

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/larkhall-scottish-town-where-sectarianism-is-so-strong-in-that-shops-have-had-to-repaint-their-green-fronts-16204244.html?r=RSS

    Hello Grenache.
    Your post is the the only one i've read in this thread - as i know it's been posted in AH and it will be full of
    A) Half arsed comedians
    B)Thanks whores
    C) posters attempting to be controversial.
    d) Arseholes in general.

    However - I would like to know one thing.
    What is Anti- Irish about this?
    Does the Republic of Ireland have the copyright on the colour green? Did they kill a leprechaun?
    Or is it just the general fear that many people in Ireland live under when they think of "The Brits" coming through on you?


  • #255
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    No I won't I read two pages and from what I could see its made up of the dickheads on both sides I have talked about in the main it suits you down to the ground.

    I wouldn't read it all if i were you either,it gets much worse and the racial invective is overwhelmingly from the Scottish side.
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    A Dub you must be happy to see a Rangets supporters club flourishing in your city then

    I'm probably more happy about it than them.It must be tough being stuck "behind enemy lines".That rhetoric speaks volumes.
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    I also have to laugh at you citing the use of the word taig will you condemn the use of Orange Bastard wich is what we are termed as on most Celtic forums

    Bastard will suffice,leave the religious piety to the yokels at Ibrox.


  • #256
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Glassheart wrote: »


    Bastard will suffice,leave the religious piety to the yokels at Ibrox.

    Sorry, tell us agin - how many times have you been in that locality?


  • #257
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    No I won't I read two pages and from what I could see its made up of the dickheads on both sides I have talked about in the main it suits you down to the ground.

    I wouldn't read it all if i were you either,it gets much worse and the racial invective is overwhelmingly from the Scottish side.
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    A Dub you must be happy to see a Rangets supporters club flourishing in your city then

    I'm probably more happy about it than them.It must be tough being stuck "behind enemy lines".That rhetoric speaks volumes.
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    I also have to laugh at you citing the use of the word taig will you condemn the use of Orange Bastard wich is what we are termed as on most Celtic forums

    Bastard will suffice,leave the religious piety to the yokels at Ibrox.
    But the thing is it is Orange Bastard we are called in saying that the very fact you find it acceptable to call me a Bastard speaks volumes. Once again proving you are a small minded bigot
    As for the behind enemy lines thing if you use google as you like to you will find it was a journalis from one of the Irish papers thag coined that phrase Once again you open your mouth znd let garbage spout out you truly are an odious little person


  • #258
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    But the thing is it is Orange Bastard we are called in saying that the very fact you find it acceptable to call me a Bastard speaks volumes.

    I was only kidding,you seem like a decent sort.
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    As for the behind enemy lines thing if you use google as you like to you will find it was a journalis from one of the Irish papers thag coined that phrase Once again you open your mouth znd let garbage spout out you truly are an odious little person

    So it was a joke then? Fair enough.


  • #259
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Sorry, tell us agin - how many times have you been in that locality?

    Would any fair minded observer really deny that there is a strain of unbearable religious piety in the Rangers crowd?


  • #260
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Would any fair minded observer really deny that there is a strain of unbearable religious piety in the Rangers crowd?

    In a section of it, yes.
    However i get the feeling that you are not a fair minded observer, and that your lack of experience in never having even visited Glasgow betrays that.


  • #261
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Eirebear wrote: »
    In a section of it, yes.
    However i get the feeling that you are not a fair minded observer, and that your lack of experience in never having even visited Glasgow betrays that.

    I don't need to visit Glasgow to see how Rangers fans impart their daft religious rhetoric on internet forums.


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  • #262
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Glassheart wrote: »
    I don't need to visit Glasgow to see how Rangers fans impart their daft religious rhetoric on internet forums.

    Tell you what, when you join the real world - we can chat.
    Untill then, stay in your little paranoid internet bubble, there will always be someone who's happy to listen to your ill informed opinions.


  • #263
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Where To wrote: »
    What's the difference?

    Ulster Scot it is then.
    You don't speak for the people of Donegal,that's for sure.
    I'm mightily confident that I speak for them more than you that's for sure. Donegal's relationship with Scotland is by and large a positive one, deal with it.

    Oh, and by the way my family came to Donegal from south Clare long before the plantation. Sorry pal :)


  • #264
    swimming in a sea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭swimming in a sea


    Glassheart wrote: »

    Never have,never will.I didn't spend any time in Nazi Germany either but after all that i've read about it,i have no reason to doubt that it was bad.

    Are you Mary Mcaleese? you sound like her:D


  • #265
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Where To wrote: »
    I'm mightily confident that I speak for them more than you that's for sure.

    No you don't,not when you claim that Donegal has more in common with Scotland.
    Where To wrote: »
    Donegal's relationship with Scotland is by and large a positive one, deal with it.

    No doubt,it's just a shame that Scotland's relationship with Donegal and the rest of the ROI isn't.
    Where To wrote: »
    Oh, and by the way my family came to Donegal from south Clare long before the plantation. Sorry pal

    You can't blame me for speculating,especially with that partitionist rhetoric of yours...


  • #266
    Mr_Spaceman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Mr_Spaceman


    Glassheart wrote: »
    I don't need to visit Glasgow to see how Rangers fans impart their daft religious rhetoric on internet forums.

    Your in-depth, experienced insight into the city of Glasgow, it's football subculture and what makes Glaswegians tick is appreciated.

    By your own admission you don't know Glasgow at all - yet you still continue to pontificate on here, making lazy, sweeping generalisations about Rangers supporters.

    Laughable.


  • #267
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Completely irrelevant,and i've seen a great deal of revisionism on this from Scots generally,not just Rangers fans.



    That's a distinction rarely made.

    I've got to say,i find the naivete of Irish people here quite depressing.The Scots are absolutely no friend of ours,i've dealt with their racism in person and i've seen a lot of extreme Stormfront type racism directed at us online.None of it is reciprocated either,it's entirely in one direction.

    You need to meet more people, mate. You can't dismiss an entire people because of a few vocal eejits.


  • #268
    Glassheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    Mr_Spaceman wrote: »
    Your in-depth, experienced insight into the city of Glasgow, it's football subculture and what makes Glaswegians tick is appreciated.

    By your own admission you don't know Glasgow at all - yet you still continue to pontificate on here, making lazy, sweeping generalisations about Rangers supporters.

    Laughable.

    I'm not really making any sweeping generalisations,i'm sure there are many decent supporters,a large minority perhaps but certainly not an overwhelming majority.The guys on here seem like decent folk,i just wish they would be more honest with themselves.

    To deny that Glasgow Rangers has a large problem with anti Irish hatred is absurd.No doubt many support them for the love of the game but the club has a history of ethics which has also made it a beacon for Protestant fanatics.It's attached at the hip with Loyalism which is an extremely corrosive ideology which deliberately ferments these problems.


  • #269
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Mr_Spaceman wrote: »
    Your in-depth, experienced insight into the city of Glasgow, it's football subculture and what makes Glaswegians tick is appreciated.

    By your own admission you don't know Glasgow at all - yet you still continue to pontificate on here, making lazy, sweeping generalisations about Rangers supporters.

    Laughable.

    I'm not really making any sweeping generalisations,i'm sure there are many decent supporters,a large minority perhaps but certainly not an overwhelming majority.The guys on here seem like decent folk,i just wish they would be more honest with themselves.

    To deny that Glasgow Rangers has a large problem with anti Irish hatred is absurd.No doubt many support them for the love of the game but the club has a history of ethics which has also made it a beacon for Protestant fanatics.It's attached at the hip with Loyalism which is an extremely corrosive ideology which deliberately ferments these problems.

    You are wrong in every statement you make of the two Rangets and Celtic can you tell me which one was founded on religious and ethnic lines


  • #270
    markesmith
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    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    You are wrong in every statement you make of the two Rangets and Celtic can you tell me which one was founded on religious and ethnic lines

    The key is in the thread title: "Pathetic Anti-Irish sectarianism thriving in West Scotland"

    We're talking about the here and now.


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  • #271
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    markesmith wrote: »
    The key is in the thread title: "Pathetic Anti-Irish sectarianism thriving in West Scotland"

    We're talking about the here and now.

    Yes we are but it helps to know the history. If you look back you will see plenty of post alluding to the history of one club or is that OK ;)


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