Pathetic Anti-Irish sectarianism thriving in West Scotland

Mr_Spaceman · 06-09-2012 01:57AM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Glasgow is a kip. The dreariest city in the uk by quite some distance.

Sorry, but with respect you're talking utter pish.

Glasgow:

Has the best shopping outside of London in the UK
Has great nightlife - designer stores and style bars in the merchant city and cafe culture in the west end
A top class, vibrant music and arts scene
Fantastic architecture befitting the 'Second city of the Empire'
Glaswegians are among the friendliest people you will meet

I know - I lived there for 16 years and still return regularly (for Rangers games, gigs and good times).

Of course there are rough parts on the periphery of the city but you would have no reason to go to them. Same as you wouldn't visit Ballymun if you were in Dublin.

Someone mentioned trouble in the city after an Old Firm game. You'll find the same edginess in other cities on the days when the two main rivals play each other, eg, when there is a Manchester derby or a north London derby. It's hardly exclusive to Glasgow. Act like a knob and you'll find trouble; use common sense and you'll avoid it.

If you think Glasgow is a kip I take it you've never been to Aberdeen, Bradford, Hull or Birmingham? Those are far more "dreary" places in Britain off the top of my head.

Mr_Spaceman · 06-09-2012 02:24AM

brummytom wrote: »

Have you been to Birmingham since 1971? If you think Birmingham's depressing, your town must be fúcking amazing.

On topic, I know dozens of Glaswegians, I was drinking with them in Cavan two weeks ago and will be with them this weekend. Scots are the nicest, funniest and friendliest people around. But there's still a terribly sectarian mindset. I was up in Glasgow for a fleadh about 2 years ago, my dad went out into the city centre and was caught behind an Orange March.

That must have been terrible for him, right enough.

Orange marches aren't actually illegal you know.

Glassheart · 06-09-2012 03:03AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Totally different situation of course that was racist, same as the folk who chanted monkey noises and through bananas at Mark Walters. But as has been stated as an Irish Catholic who has many friend in Larkhall I have yet to experience any anti Irish sectarianism there sure I have had stupid digs but then I have handed out a few of my own. But never had any serious problems

You're an Irish Catholic and you support Rangers? You're out of your mind,it's a beacon for anti Irish weirdos.

grenache · 06-09-2012 04:41AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Bambi wrote: »

Up Next in AH : why those fans who threw bananas at john barnes were'nt really racist.

Totally different situation of course that was racist, same as the folk who chanted monkey noises and through bananas at Mark Walters. But as has been stated as an Irish Catholic who has many friend in Larkhall I have yet to experience any anti Irish sectarianism there sure I have had stupid digs but then I have handed out a few of my own. But never had any serious problems

A little off topic here but im just curious? I have no problem with anyone supporting Rangers, but how did an Irish Catholic like yourself come to support Rangers? Seems like a very odd choice.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 09:56AM

grenache wrote: »

A little off topic here but im just curious? I have no problem with anyone supporting Rangers, but how did an Irish Catholic like yourself come to support Rangers? Seems like a very odd choice.

Well fair enough but there are actually more of us than you would think. My own story is I moved to Glasgow with my parents at a young age due to my Fathers work. While growing up my Dad took me to games at Ibrox, Parkhead and Shawfield but I for some reason decided that I wanted to follow Rangers and it went from there. I am not a glory hunter I was a young adult when Celtic were winning nine in a row so it would have been an easy choice to stop following the Gers. But here I am all these years on back living here with my family and traveling back and forward on a regular basis to watch Rangers.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 09:57AM

Glassheart wrote: »

You're an Irish Catholic and you support Rangers? You're out of your mind,it's a beacon for anti Irish weirdos.

And you really know nothing about it

Madam · 06-09-2012 11:23AM

Was your dad a Gers supporter Broxi? My story's the same as yours but none of my brothers were interested in football and as I was a daddies(the sauce too:)) girl I followed him to games whenever I could.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 11:28AM

Madam wrote: »

Was your dad a Gers supporter Broxi? My story's the same as yours but none of my brothers were interested in football and as I was a daddies(the sauce too:)) girl I followed him to games whenever I could.

He was a Gers fan but just loved the game that is why he made sure he took me to see other teams including Celtic. Only child here so had no siblings to compare with.
HP man myself

Madam · 06-09-2012 11:34AM

Glassheart wrote: »

You're an Irish Catholic and you support Rangers? You're out of your mind,it's a beacon for anti Irish weirdos.

Every team in the UK and I suppose all over the world has its own particular type of 'weirdos', sectarian or otherwise.

TheBuilder · 06-09-2012 11:57AM

Glassheart wrote: »

You're an Irish Catholic and you support Rangers? You're out of your mind,it's a beacon for anti Irish weirdos.

Bull****. Simple as that.

old hippy · 06-09-2012 12:35PM

People support teams they're not supposed to support shocker :rolleyes:

The_Kew_Tour · 06-09-2012 12:51PM

I tend to find people from Aberdeen and Dundee more prone to hating somebody then Glasgow from times I have been to games and Stags there.

Know few Rangers and Celtic fans and they sound.

Once you dont go down a rough area you wont really find problem in Scotland. But they can be odd bunch at times. They have their moments.

Mr_Spaceman · 06-09-2012 04:10PM

Glassheart wrote: »

You're an Irish Catholic and you support Rangers? You're out of your mind,it's a beacon for anti Irish weirdos.

Complete nonsense.

The vast majority of Rangers supporters are not anti-Irish. Indeed many of them can trace their own roots to Ireland.

There's a big difference between being anti-IRA and anti-Irish.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 05:07PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

Complete nonsense.

The vast majority of Rangers supporters are not anti-Irish. Indeed many of them can trace their own roots to Ireland.

There's a big difference between being anti-IRA and anti-Irish.

It is pointless mate so many people want to believe Rangers are an anti Irish club and won't believe anything else. I have had this discussion so many times over the years it is frightening

Fratton Fred · 06-09-2012 05:34PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

Glassheart wrote: »

You're an Irish Catholic and you support Rangers? You're out of your mind,it's a beacon for anti Irish weirdos.

Complete nonsense.
The vast majority of Rangers supporters are not anti-Irish. Indeed many of them can trace their own roots to Ireland.
There's a big difference between being anti-IRA and anti-Irish.

Whoever it was from Rangers who made contact with the Hamburg fans is a genius.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 05:36PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Whoever it was from Rangers who made contact with the Hamburg fans is a genius.

That goes back a long way with the Army serving there and bears going to there games.

Fenian Army · 06-09-2012 06:09PM

A good few blanket men supported rangers, and some hunger strikers did too, Bobby Sands was a Villa fan.

Smashing traffic lights is so stupid that I'm struggling to believe its true - would make a great comedy sketch

Fenian Army · 06-09-2012 06:11PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

Complete nonsense.

The vast majority of Rangers supporters are not anti-Irish. Indeed many of them can trace their own roots to Ireland.

There's a big difference between being anti-IRA and anti-Irish.

When you think everyone's in the IRA or supports them then theres not much difference - then you get to the loyalist mindset which led them to think that killing random catholics was fighting the IRA.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 06:52PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

A good few blanket men supported rangers, and some hunger strikers did too, Bobby Sands was a Villa fan.

Smashing traffic lights is so stupid that I'm struggling to believe its true - would make a great comedy sketch

Sure that can't be true every Gers fan is a hard line loyalist lol

It happened a couple of times probably stupid drunk young boys but it is now perceived to happen every week

A Dub in Glasgo · 06-09-2012 06:56PM

I was involved in the reopening of the rail line to Larkhall. I never forget seeing one of the traffic lights getting new glass following the loyal ones making a stand. Surreal and pitiful

Mr_Spaceman · 06-09-2012 07:03PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

I was involved in the reopening of the rail line to Larkhall. I never forget seeing one of the traffic lights getting new glass following the loyal ones making a stand. Surreal and pitiful

It may be, but it's hardly something to get all offended about - a bit like the hysterical thread title.

Tribal nonsense really.

Glassheart · 06-09-2012 08:26PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

The vast majority of Rangers supporters are not anti-Irish. Indeed many of them can trace their own roots to Ireland.

Completely irrelevant,and i've seen a great deal of revisionism on this from Scots generally,not just Rangers fans.

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

There's a big difference between being anti-IRA and anti-Irish.

That's a distinction rarely made.

I've got to say,i find the naivete of Irish people here quite depressing.The Scots are absolutely no friend of ours,i've dealt with their racism in person and i've seen a lot of extreme Stormfront type racism directed at us online.None of it is reciprocated either,it's entirely in one direction.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 08:32PM

Glassheart wrote: »

Completely irrelevant,and i've seen a great deal of revisionism on this from Scots generally,not just Rangers fans.

That's a distinction rarely made.

I've got to say,i find the naivete of Irish people here quite depressing.The Scots are absolutely no friend of ours,i've dealt with their racism in person and i've seen a lot of extreme Stormfront type racism directed at us online.None of it is reciprocated either,it's entirely in one direction.

Absolute rubbish I have seen Racism towards many Scots from Irish people. In fact my accent is Scottish and I have been on the receiving end of both racist and sectarian actions. Also the distinction is made on a regular basis I see it often

You must live in that other dimension where the Irish are all cuddly teddybears with not a racist or sectarian person to be seen.

swimming in a sea · 06-09-2012 08:41PM

Rangers was always my favourite club in Scotland, would not say it to any stranger encase it got me a kicking. I remember really liking them when they nearly won the European cup in 1991.

I had no idea of the whole religious\nationalist thing until I went to secondary school the next year. Other kids in their Celtic shirts soon put me straight:rolleyes: only thing is they would have been like me and had no idea about it, if it was not for their parents\uncles etc who filled them full of this prejudiced ****.

Been a Spurs fan to I've been called a prod\jew lover many times, considering I'm not religious myself I find it a bit strange:D

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 08:47PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

When you think everyone's in the IRA or supports them then theres not much difference - then you get to the loyalist mindset which led them to think that killing random catholics was fighting the IRA.

That is a fallacy years ago this may have been the case but please credit people with more intelligence. It also gets people thinking when the IRA are seen bullying there dead with a Tricolour draped over the coffin I get fed up having to explain to them.

Where To · 06-09-2012 08:48PM

Glassheart wrote: »

Completely irrelevant,and i've seen a great deal of revisionism on this from Scots generally,not just Rangers fans.

That's a distinction rarely made.

I've got to say,i find the naivete of Irish people here quite depressing.The Scots are absolutely no friend of ours,i've dealt with their racism in person and i've seen a lot of extreme Stormfront type racism directed at us online.None of it is reciprocated either,it's entirely in one direction.

So you don't like Donegal people either then?

ziggy · 06-09-2012 08:49PM

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Glassheart · 06-09-2012 08:52PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Absolute rubbish I have seen Racism towards many Scots from Irish people. In fact my accent is Scottish and I have been on the receiving end of both racist and sectarian actions. Also the distinction is made on a regular basis I see it often

I don't suppose you were wearing your Rangers top at the time? To be honest,i don't actually believe you.

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

You must live in that other dimension where the Irish are all cuddly teddybears with not a racist or sectarian person to be seen.

Nah,i would never deny that we've often got a ridiculous attitude towards the English (as do the Scots) but that works both ways.
How anti Irish hatred in Scotland has evaded the attention of Irish people mystifies me.

Glassheart · 06-09-2012 08:55PM

Where To wrote: »

So you don't like Donegal people either then?

Where are you going with this?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 06-09-2012 08:56PM

Glassheart wrote: »

I don't suppose you were wearing your Rangers top at the time? To be honest,i don't actually believe you.

Nah,i would never deny that we've often got a ridiculous attitude towards the English (as do the Scots) but that works both ways.
How anti Irish hatred in Scotland has evaded the attention of Irish people mystifies me.

Nope not on every occasion and to be honest why should it make a difference or in your mind does the fact I was wearing a Gers top make it OK and to be honest whether you believe me or not is irrelevant to me. When I see the rubbish you are spouting why would I care.

Really thats what it comes down to with people like you if someone disagrees out comes the "well I don't believe you" what a joke

Pathetic Anti-Irish sectarianism thriving in West Scotland

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