RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

Monty Burnz · 06-09-2012 05:49PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

You can't defame the dead so they don't exactly have to worry about legal implications do they?

You managed to quote the part of the post where she pointed out that they published this stuff about him before he died apparently without realising what that means...

Fenian Army · 06-09-2012 05:49PM

And considering I've said that those who killed him are probably as bad as their victim I'm hardly cheerleadering him.

I'm just not dancing on his grave and saluting the scumbags who did it.

Fenian Army · 06-09-2012 05:52PM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

You managed to quote the part of the post where she pointed out that they published this stuff about him before he died apparently without realising what that means...

Read what I originally said, and what it was in response to, ie people horrified about whats been in the papers in recent days, wouldnt be printed if it wasnt true because lawyers wouldnt let them, I was pointing out a legal reality and she went off on one.

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 05:56PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

And considering I've said that those who killed him are probably as bad as their victim I'm hardly cheerleadering him.

I'm just not dancing on his grave and saluting the scumbags who did it.

I don't salute anybody who kills a man in cold blood nobody deserves to die like that but Alan WAS involved in murders he was arested as a suspect In the murder of Sean winters the Garda as usual who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery didn't have enough evidence to charge him if you live by the gun expect to die by it whether or not I or you believe that is wrong

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 06:00PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

Monty Burnz wrote: »

You managed to quote the part of the post where she pointed out that they published this stuff about him before he died apparently without realising what that means...

Read what I originally said, and what it was in response to, ie people horrified about whats been in the papers in recent days, wouldnt be printed if it wasnt true because lawyers wouldnt let them, I was pointing out a legal reality and she went off on one.

Everything that was printed about Alan in the last couple of days has been printed in the Sunday world an news of the world over the past 3 years it's just that because he was killed its been on the front page of every newspaper and people are horrified by the stuff they are printing because maybe they didn't read it before or chose not to believe it then aswell

gosuckonalemon · 06-09-2012 06:52PM

I can't believe that there are knackers/RA heads posting in this thread trying to justify this scumbags actions. And in particular a girl. I guess this would explain how murderers like Alan Ryan ended up having kids, dumb bitches who were excited by his lifestyle.

This is what's wrong with society.

MR.NORTHDUBLIN · 06-09-2012 06:57PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Alan Ryan lived two lives. On one hand he would claim to be a republican.he courageously protested at the dail on budget day for the Irish people ( how many law abiding citizens were there )he despised drugs and the dealers.if anybody in the donaghmede community had a problem Alan would do what he could to help you no matter if he knew you or not. He protested the length and breath of this country for political prisoners like Marian price he believed in a free Ireland ( which he had a right to like every woman man and child in this country does ) I personally couldn't care less if d 6 counties were ours or not. On the second hand of Alan he claimed to push drug dealers out but in doing that he lined his greedy pockets with there money. Money that was made selling poison in our community he would then use that money to live a lavish lifestyle he may aswell of been dealing the drugs. I believe Alan honestly thought by 'taxing' the drug dealers he was doing good in a way he was d small time dealers were put out of business but Alan cant controll the big drug traffickers of Ireland they have just as much man power more money and guns to do what they want they prob paid Alan not because they were intimidated but because he was a fly that wouldn't go away. Alan didn't intimidate ordinary people working 9 till 5 jobs he was nothing but an ordinary donaghmede man to them bu for the business who he intimidated bullied an d harassed ask them why he did??? No1s innocent not Alan nor the business men and drug dealers he stole from. Alan in the end was a dangerous man but not to the ordinary person he was dangerous when comes to a drug dealer crossing him but he couldn't take them all on that's why he died.

BLAH BLAH he was a dick tell the truth iv had dealings with the dick

06-09-2012 06:59PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

I don't salute anybody who kills a man in cold blood nobody deserves to die like that but Alan WAS involved in murders he was arested as a suspect In the murder of Sean winters the Garda as usual who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery didn't have enough evidence to charge him if you live by the gun expect to die by it whether or not I or you believe that is wrong

Well at least you didn't just register here to blow smoke up his dead hole.
And for that I salute you.

Daniel S · 06-09-2012 07:04PM

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

I can't believe that there are knackers/RA heads posting in this thread trying to justify this scumbags actions. And in particular a girl. I guess this would explain how murderers like Alan Ryan ended up having kids, dumb bitches who were excited by his lifestyle.

This is what's wrong with society.

There's a bit more to it than just that. :P

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 07:04PM

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

I can't believe that there are knackers/RA heads posting in this thread trying to justify this scumbags actions. And in particular a girl. I guess this would explain how murderers like Alan Ryan ended up having kids, dumb bitches who were excited by his lifestyle.

This is what's wrong with society.

Maybe ya should go back an read all my posts on the last 3 pages and you will see that nowhere did I justify Alan (scumbag)Ryan's actions I merely portrayed the man that I knew exactly as I knew him a man who led two lives on one a claimed republician who many people in our area respected him as and on the other a cold blooded killer

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 07:06PM

MR.NORTHDUBLIN wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Alan Ryan lived two lives. On one hand he would claim to be a republican.he courageously protested at the dail on budget day for the Irish people ( how many law abiding citizens were there )he despised drugs and the dealers.if anybody in the donaghmede community had a problem Alan would do what he could to help you no matter if he knew you or not. He protested the length and breath of this country for political prisoners like Marian price he believed in a free Ireland ( which he had a right to like every woman man and child in this country does ) I personally couldn't care less if d 6 counties were ours or not. On the second hand of Alan he claimed to push drug dealers out but in doing that he lined his greedy pockets with there money. Money that was made selling poison in our community he would then use that money to live a lavish lifestyle he may aswell of been dealing the drugs. I believe Alan honestly thought by 'taxing' the drug dealers he was doing good in a way he was d small time dealers were put out of business but Alan cant controll the big drug traffickers of Ireland they have just as much man power more money and guns to do what they want they prob paid Alan not because they were intimidated but because he was a fly that wouldn't go away. Alan didn't intimidate ordinary people working 9 till 5 jobs he was nothing but an ordinary donaghmede man to them bu for the business who he intimidated bullied an d harassed ask them why he did??? No1s innocent not Alan nor the business men and drug dealers he stole from. Alan in the end was a dangerous man but not to the ordinary person he was dangerous when comes to a drug dealer crossing him but he couldn't take them all on that's why he died.

BLAH BLAH he was a dick tell the truth iv had dealings with the dick

Go back and read all my posts after that you will see I called him much more than a dick

MR.NORTHDUBLIN · 06-09-2012 07:56PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

MR.NORTHDUBLIN wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Alan Ryan lived two lives. On one hand he would claim to be a republican.he courageously protested at the dail on budget day for the Irish people ( how many law abiding citizens were there )he despised drugs and the dealers.if anybody in the donaghmede community had a problem Alan would do what he could to help you no matter if he knew you or not. He protested the length and breath of this country for political prisoners like Marian price he believed in a free Ireland ( which he had a right to like every woman man and child in this country does ) I personally couldn't care less if d 6 counties were ours or not. On the second hand of Alan he claimed to push drug dealers out but in doing that he lined his greedy pockets with there money. Money that was made selling poison in our community he would then use that money to live a lavish lifestyle he may aswell of been dealing the drugs. I believe Alan honestly thought by 'taxing' the drug dealers he was doing good in a way he was d small time dealers were put out of business but Alan cant controll the big drug traffickers of Ireland they have just as much man power more money and guns to do what they want they prob paid Alan not because they were intimidated but because he was a fly that wouldn't go away. Alan didn't intimidate ordinary people working 9 till 5 jobs he was nothing but an ordinary donaghmede man to them bu for the business who he intimidated bullied an d harassed ask them why he did??? No1s innocent not Alan nor the business men and drug dealers he stole from. Alan in the end was a dangerous man but not to the ordinary person he was dangerous when comes to a drug dealer crossing him but he couldn't take them all on that's why he died.

BLAH BLAH he was a dick tell the truth iv had dealings with the dick

Go back and read all my posts after that you will see I called him much more than a dick

U must be one of the faithful followers anyone I no around has nothing good to say about the mug

Defiler Of The Coffin · 06-09-2012 08:05PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Go back and read all my posts after that you will see I called him much more than a dick

So he led two lives? One as a good guy and one as a bad guy? Are you sticking up for him or not? Sorry I'm finding this all quite hard to follow.

Have to say I'm surprised at the support the deceased is getting though, I've only read a few articles in the paper since the shooting and he didn't seem like a nice fellow at all at all. Damn papers with their agendas

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 08:18PM

MR.NORTHDUBLIN wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

MR.NORTHDUBLIN wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Alan Ryan lived two lives. On one hand he would claim to be a republican.he courageously protested at the dail on budget day for the Irish people ( how many law abiding citizens were there )he despised drugs and the dealers.if anybody in the donaghmede community had a problem Alan would do what he could to help you no matter if he knew you or not. He protested the length and breath of this country for political prisoners like Marian price he believed in a free Ireland ( which he had a right to like every woman man and child in this country does ) I personally couldn't care less if d 6 counties were ours or not. On the second hand of Alan he claimed to push drug dealers out but in doing that he lined his greedy pockets with there money. Money that was made selling poison in our community he would then use that money to live a lavish lifestyle he may aswell of been dealing the drugs. I believe Alan honestly thought by 'taxing' the drug dealers he was doing good in a way he was d small time dealers were put out of business but Alan cant controll the big drug traffickers of Ireland they have just as much man power more money and guns to do what they want they prob paid Alan not because they were intimidated but because he was a fly that wouldn't go away. Alan didn't intimidate ordinary people working 9 till 5 jobs he was nothing but an ordinary donaghmede man to them bu for the business who he intimidated bullied an d harassed ask them why he did??? No1s innocent not Alan nor the business men and drug dealers he stole from. Alan in the end was a dangerous man but not to the ordinary person he was dangerous when comes to a drug dealer crossing him but he couldn't take them all on that's why he died.

BLAH BLAH he was a dick tell the truth iv had dealings with the dick

Go back and read all my posts after that you will see I called him much more than a dick

U must be one of the faithful followers anyone I no around has nothing good to say about the mug

Hahaha u obviously didn't read all my posts I am in no way an Alan Ryan follower I merely just explained why people in donaghmede I for one not one of them respected Alan Ryan the people who respected him new him as the man that protested on budget day an had his political beliefs I personally don't have any views on politics. They didn't no the Alan Ryan who was a killer and I won't get on here and justify him being that either

rubadubduba · 06-09-2012 08:24PM

The twat was a shooter and thought he was the big man and was untouchable he got shot because he was a theif like the rest of them.

IRA my arse.

blue4ever · 06-09-2012 08:24PM

Last time I saw 'Black Flags' in Dublin, and near me, was 30 years ago.
The hunger strikers.
Regardless of where you stand on the political divide, Bobby Sands, and the other strikers were a catalyst for change. Change came at a slow enough pace, but a change came.

I genuinely believe that (and wouldn't normally lean that direction).

To have the poles of Dublin adorned with the same tribute today, on the death of this man, is an affront to the black flag and what it signified, then.

C

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 08:27PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Go back and read all my posts after that you will see I called him much more than a dick

So he led two lives? One as a good guy and one as a bad guy? Are you sticking up for him or not? Sorry I'm finding this all quite hard to follow.

Have to say I'm surprised at the support the deceased is getting though, I've only read a few articles in the paper since the shooting and he didn't seem like a nice fellow at all at all. Damn papers with their agendas

I'm not sticking up for Alan I was explaining why people stick up for him because a lot of people in donaghmede only knew him as the guy the guy who went out and protested against the governement on budget day an I no he helped people in the community these people are not apart of Alan's close circle they don't no him as a killer. Scumbag who was just as bad as the drug dealers who he went up against the problem with the papers is they don't portray the good in people like Alan this leads to people who didn't know him like yourself not understanding why people are sticking up for him it's because they new him as the good guy not the bad guy the rest of the nation knows him as. Put yourself in a scenario if a member in your family or close circle or even a guy ya new dat as him to been a good guy committed a crime beyond your belief you will then see where these people who are sticking up for him are coming from

OnTheCounter · 06-09-2012 08:51PM

That doesnt sell papers.

Also they are not two different people. Overall he was a bad guy.

blahfckingblah · 06-09-2012 09:08PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

This stuff was written about Alan on news websites and papers long before he died pal . Let me guess from your name you are a Celtic scarf wearing idiot who probably hasn't a clue about his Irish history just that the Brits own 6 counties and ya don't like it

whats with people on this thread and Celtic? did Neil Lennon piss in all your cornflakes?

Lelantos · 06-09-2012 09:10PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

This stuff was written about Alan on news websites and papers long before he died pal . Let me guess from your name you are a Celtic scarf wearing idiot who probably hasn't a clue about his Irish history just that the Brits own 6 counties and ya don't like it

whats with people on this thread and Celtic? did Neil Lennon piss in all your cornflakes?

No, but he's ginger, reason enough to be hated.

gosuckonalemon · 06-09-2012 09:16PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Maybe ya should go back an read all my posts on the last 3 pages and you will see that nowhere did I justify Alan (scumbag)Ryan's actions I merely portrayed the man that I knew exactly as I knew him a man who led two lives on one a claimed republician who many people in our area respected him as and on the other a cold blooded killer

Just because he portrayed himself as some kind of Robin Hood character to thick, ignorant, uneducated knackers who were too thick to cop to it, doesn't mean he was anything else.

With all due respect darling, anyone who respected him is a fcuking scumbag. So to are anyone who attempts to justify other people respecting him.

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 10:26PM

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Maybe ya should go back an read all my posts on the last 3 pages and you will see that nowhere did I justify Alan (scumbag)Ryan's actions I merely portrayed the man that I knew exactly as I knew him a man who led two lives on one a claimed republician who many people in our area respected him as and on the other a cold blooded killer

Just because he portrayed himself as some kind of Robin Hood character to thick, ignorant, uneducated knackers who were too thick to cop to it, doesn't mean he was anything else.

With all due respect darling, anyone who respected him is a fcuking scumbag. So to are anyone who attempts to justify other people respecting him.

Listen hear DARLING read the posts exactly as there wrote some people who knew Alan were not uneducated knackers they are respectable people from respectable families who had they Same political beliefs as him. Iwas just explaining to people who didn't understand why people where sticking up for him as to why they are I am no scumbag and im also highly educated I didn't have any respect for the crimes Alan committed and I'm not justifying people for sticking up for him I'm using my intelligence to explain to people like you who haven't got a clue about what goes on outside their computer and the front pages of their paper that some people who knew Alan and are sticking up for Alan genuinely don't believe him to be the cold blooded killer he was. When you write back come with a bit more intelligence on the matter read all my posts and then give your view in no way did I portray Alan as a robin hood character or justify the fact people liked him.

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 10:28PM

blue4ever wrote: »

Last time I saw 'Black Flags' in Dublin, and near me, was 30 years ago.
The hunger strikers.
Regardless of where you stand on the political divide, Bobby Sands, and the other strikers were a catalyst for change. Change came at a slow enough pace, but a change came.

I genuinely believe that (and wouldn't normally lean that direction).

To have the poles of Dublin adorned with the same tribute today, on the death of this man, is an affront to the black flag and what it signified, then.

C

I totally agree he claimed not to be apart of any Ira faction but yet all arrangements for his funeral ie the flags and gun shots as amark of respect on Tuesday evening all lea to an Ira funeral that's what they do when burying one of their own

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 10:34PM

OnTheCounter wrote: »

That doesnt sell papers.

Also they are not two different people. Overall he was a bad guy.

I'm not saying he want a bad guy but you have to understand that the people who knew him genuinely think that the papers are making up lies about him because they didn't see that side of him. I'm putting myself outside the box and seeing both sides yes he was a cold blooded killer but to the many people he was a nice guy the same as Paul Williams said on fm104 their are many criminals who were love by the people that new them it doesn't change the fact that people like us think he was scum I'm jus saying there was tow sides to Alan and you could say there re two sides to every criminal

Red About Town · 06-09-2012 10:34PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

I totally agree he claimed not to be apart of any Ira faction but yet all arrangements for his funeral ie the flags and gun shots as amark of respect on Tuesday evening all lea to an Ira funeral that's what they do when burying one of their own

In all fairness no one admits to being a member of the IRA, unless they want to spend some time in prison.

Even Gerry Adams will never, ever admit to it.

Donaghmedegirl · 06-09-2012 10:41PM

Red About Town wrote: »

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

I totally agree he claimed not to be apart of any Ira faction but yet all arrangements for his funeral ie the flags and gun shots as amark of respect on Tuesday evening all lea to an Ira funeral that's what they do when burying one of their own

In all fairness no one admits to being a member of the IRA, unless they want to spend some time in prison.

Even Gerry Adams will never, ever admit to it.

Yeah nobody does admit to it but this is a guy who has people sticking up for him on radio stations who knew him claiming he wasn't apart of any Ira faction but yet they are allowing a full on paramilitary funeral to happen thats what I meant by it sorry
Didn't explain myself

mattjack · 06-09-2012 10:41PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Listen hear DARLING read the posts exactly as there wrote some people who knew Alan were not uneducated knackers they are respectable people from respectable families who had they Same political beliefs as him. Iwas just explaining to people who didn't understand why people where sticking up for him as to why they are I am no scumbag and im also highly educated I didn't have any respect for the crimes Alan committed and I'm not justifying people for sticking up for him I'm using my intelligence to explain to people like you who haven't got a clue about what goes on outside their computer and the front pages of their paper that some people who knew Alan and are sticking up for Alan genuinely don't believe him to be the cold blooded killer he was. When you write back come with a bit more intelligence on the matter read all my posts and then give your view in no way did I portray Alan as a robin hood character or justify the fact people liked him.

Most of us do understand exactly what you are saying,
I would imagine some people have difficulty accepting that there are people who believe that Alan Ryan's behaviour was appropriate, by the way he is being described as some sort of pillar in the Donaghmede community.
Its difficult to believe that you could turn to him as some of 'Mr Fix it' or that a wider group regard him as a benign influence in the community.

Cheeky_gal · 06-09-2012 10:55PM

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if he actually took drugs himself?

Lord Trollington · 06-09-2012 11:03PM

Donaghmedegirl wrote: »

Listen hear DARLING read the posts exactly as there wrote some people who knew Alan were not uneducated knackers they are respectable people from respectable families who had they Same political beliefs as him. Iwas just explaining to people who didn't understand why people where sticking up for him as to why they are I am no scumbag and im also highly educated I didn't have any respect for the crimes Alan committed and I'm not justifying people for sticking up for him I'm using my intelligence to explain to people like you who haven't got a clue about what goes on outside their computer and the front pages of their paper that some people who knew Alan and are sticking up for Alan genuinely don't believe him to be the cold blooded killer he was. When you write back come with a bit more intelligence on the matter read all my posts and then give your view in no way did I portray Alan as a robin hood character or justify the fact people liked him.

So highly educated is Donaghmedegirl that she fails to see the difference between where and were and also the lack of full stops is quite alarming.

If this is highly educated the knacker scumbags must be in some state god love them.

Bergkamp 10 · 06-09-2012 11:06PM

What I want to know is how come there wasnt as much uproar when Liam Kenny a member of the CIRA supposedly, was murdered last summer in very similar circumstances.

There is so many details involved in these things, its actually impossible to follow. Read a Sunday World Article and they will mention 20 different names and aliases all connected in some manner.

RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

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